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  1. #31

    Quote Originally Posted by bordogoy View Post
    but i'm still not confident of my explanation above.
    because if you will search for the definitions of both words, they are defined as the same.

    TUBAG : Synonym (the same or nearly the same meaning) man sila mao nang same ug definition sa ubang dictionary pero naa jd na silay specific definition which makes them not exactly the same.. similar lang ba.

    outstanding is defined as excellent and at the same time, excellent is defined as outstanding.
    TUBAG : Synonym (the same or nearly the same meaning) lagi sila! hasula! last nalang ka! haha both words can be used to give compliments and they are both positive words and pretty much same meaning in some cases which make them synonyms. again, naa jd na silay specific definition which makes them not exactly the same. search pd unya ug "Very Good" dba gidefine sad na as excellent sa ubang dictionary and para nako mas taas pa ang excellent kaysa very good.. pero ngano pareha man ilang definition sa ubang dictionary? why? kay SYNONYM lagi! hahaha kapoya[B][B]
    kasabot ko sa imong punto bro. pero anesli, kasabot sad ko ug sinonem oi! ako ra na gi-explain w/o using the word synonym. sori kau bro if gikapoy ug gihasolan nka ug tubag nako. pwedi ra ko nimo i-ignore. bunga ra ni sa kalaay ang ako. pawala sa duka.

    Quote Originally Posted by bordogoy View Post
    i haven't found a dictionary that defines OUTSTANDING as better than EXCELLENT.
    TUBAG : wa ko kasabot ani.. pasabta ko..
    ani nalang, nakabasa na ka ug dictionary nga nag-ingon nga mas labaw ang outstanding sa excellent?

    Quote Originally Posted by bordogoy View Post
    another sample :
    synonyms ning tulo ka words below.. (giapilan nalang nako ug Very Good para mas dali masabtan)

    base sa akong mga nakita, inani ang ranking sa mostly schools and opisina or maski sa asa pa siguro nga establishment nga naa rating/ranking system. (wa nalang nako giapil ang poor. haha)
    3rd Very Good
    2nd Excellent
    1st Outstanding
    actually bro, ing-ani ang rating nga gigamit sa amo ofis, and mao ni ang rason ngano ako ni gi-sugdan nga thread kay walay klaro nga maka-tubag nako ani dri. lain man sad kau nga largo lang ta sunod nga y pangutana ug ngano.

    Quote Originally Posted by bordogoy View Post
    kanang 3 ka words kay puros complimentary / positive words, and they all can have almost the same meaning kung imo na siyang gamiton sa sentence which makes them synonyms (the same or nearly the same meaning) BUT if e.rank nimo sila. mo outsand jd si outsanding kay "outstand" gd dba?
    sama ra ni sa mo-excel jud si excellent kay "excel" man di ba?

    Quote Originally Posted by bordogoy View Post
    murag ang imo rang gibasa or gisabot man gd bro kay ang taphaw ra nga definition sa words maong makaingon ka nga same ra and maong maglibog sad ka.. pero kung imong sawmon ang kinailagmang bahin sa pulong, naa jd nay kaugalingong position/gamit nang mga pulonga..
    nagpasabot ra jud siguro na bro nga bugo jud kau ko sa inglis kay taphaw ra kau ko.

    Quote Originally Posted by bordogoy View Post
    kung gamitan nimog simple logic, nganong naa may word nga excellent/outstanding kung exactly the same jd ang meaning nila.. why not just stick with excellent or outstanding pra way libog.. hehe
    pareha ra na siya bro sa nganong naa may pulong nga kutsara/spoon kung pareha ra jud ang ilang kahulugan?
    ang akong tubag ani bro kay naay dakong posibilidad nga ang duha ka mga pulong nag-gikan sa lain2x nga lugar. pareha ra siya ug gitumbok nga butang nya sa kadugayan kay nag-abot ang duha ka mga pulong. so ang mahitabo kay pwede ra nimo gamiton ang bisan asa sa duha ka pulong para pag-tumbok anang butanga.

    aduna usab posibilidad nga ang duha ka mga pulong nag-gikan sa lain2x nga henerasyon. lahi ang pulong nga gigamit sa bag-ong henerasyon para pag-tumbok sa pareha nga butang. sama pananglit sa "chula". sa una kay wa jud ko kasabot ana kay lge medyo edaran na ko. lahi akong sabot ana sa una. pero sa kadugayan kay naka-sabot ko nga "lips2lips" diay na. ambot ug sakto ba sad kaha ako sabot ana nga pulong...

    Quote Originally Posted by bordogoy View Post
    Again, ang tubag nako sa imong pangutana kay higher jd si outstanding kaysa kang excellent.

    nindot ning wa tay lingaw da.. hahaha
    lingaw2x lang ni ang ato bro. share lang ta sa atong opinyon

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Wynna View Post
    Words with the same meaning doesn't necessarily have the same usage. Excellent and outstanding are 2 different words that are "again" , "synonymous" or "similar" to each other. As what my love has said, both words refer to performance in particular. But with regards to which of the two words is higher when giving compliments or describing a person, I'd say outstanding is higher. Being Excellent is a compliment that a person is being given or described to when achieving something without having the need of becoming competitive . Being Outstanding strongly suggests that one is superior from the rest.
    should i say "outstanding" explanation? or "excellent" explanation?
    honestly, this is a very good explanation.
    its just that there's a conflict between the last sentence
    "Being Outstanding strongly suggests that one is superior from the rest."
    and "10 outstanding policemen of the year" as what i've wrote in my previous post.
    because if outstanding is only for the person who stood out from the rest,
    the outstanding policeman of the year should only be given to a single person.
    just my half cent...

    Quote Originally Posted by keen View Post
    ts, tan-aw nako morag dili ni mahuman nga istorya. excellent and outstanding are basically the same thing. the issue you brought up here arose from the fact that there are those who think one is a cut above the other. methinks the words mean the same and can be used interchangeably with no resulting casualty. hahaha
    mura bitaw ug dili ni mahuman nga istorya...

    btw, i think there are instances that one word is more appropriate to use than the other one.

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by dulasnom View Post

    mura bitaw ug dili ni mahuman nga istorya...

    btw, i think there are instances that one word is more appropriate to use than the other one.
    yes, there are many. that's why when mag-choose ug what synonym to use, we have to be careful lest we be misunderstood. which is an occurrence that's not exactly excellent or outstanding.

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    @dulasnom nangutana ko diris akong amigo nga native english speaker bro.. if we will stick to your question if asa ang higher, agree man pd siya nga outstanding kay comparison nman daw.. ang explaination kay mao2 sa pag explain ni ms @Wynna

    about sa spoon/kutsara bro, they are just not synonym.. pareha jd na sila.. ininglis ug bisaya lang.. hahahaha

    last na ni.. d na ko.. hahahahaha apir nalang bro b..
    Last edited by bordogoy; 07-16-2015 at 11:49 AM.

  5. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by bordogoy View Post
    @dulasnom nangutana ko diris akong amigo nga native english speaker bro.. if we will stick to your question if asa ang higher, agree man pd siya nga outstanding kay comparison nman daw.. ang explaination kay mao2 sa pag explain ni ms @Wynna


    last na ni.. d na ko.. hahahahaha apir nalang bro b..
    hahaha... apir bro...
    salamat sa nagahin nimo nga oras para ani...

  6. #36
    TS, you don't need to know which of those are of a higher meaning... because if naay mu praise nimo using those words, it means they are more than satisfied. Which is the most important thing than it's meaning.

  7. #37
    If you are excellent in the class then you will be surely an outstanding...just saying an example

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