Gospel of Judas debunked!

[noy]

hahahaha OT dayon. hehehe. i think it is not OT. ky nag conflict man, naay verse nga tinood naa pud bakak. and speaking ug bakak, ang Catholic Church could be making bakak about Judas, and they thought nga ma erase na but naa man diay evidence nga how faithful si Judas ni Jesus as a disciple tungod aning Gospel niya. i think naa pa daghan ang uban naa mismo gitagu-an sa vatican, huwat na lng sa right pope nga mupagawas sa baho ky si pope john paul uwahi naman kaayo, tiguwang naman siya nakabalo.

nganong waman gi mention sa matthew nga naputol ang pisi nga gihikogan ni judas, unya naugbok. wa pud giseguro ni judas kung lig-on ba ang pisi para wala nay daghan storya hehehe.

ho jovs, the gospel of Judas is not even written by Judas. as per carbon dating, it was written almost 300 years ago after his death..it was also the time as per history nga grabe kaau ka boom ang Christianity..so it is also possible nga kanang gospel of judas was to discredit the gospels or new testament accounts written by first hand witnesses themselves and those
written 50-100 years AD.

of course why would the gospel and new testament writers wrote such details about Judas when the gospel is not even about Judas..jovs, branding the Catholic Church as a false church would discredit the great minds in both past and present who believed in its doctrines esp with the Judas gospel.now by the term "great minds" i mean scientists, bible scholars,researchers
who devoted their lives in studying about the church's doctrines...one of the many is Saint Augustine.
with his past jovs, you know that he could have been one of the first people who would backed out from the catholic church if your accusations were true..but instead, he became the bishop of hippo...

i'm not saying that abuse and politics is not preset in the church but calling the church doctrines a lie
is extreme esp coming from a "happy person"like you...Lol and besides it is also OT
so si Hudas lang usa atong tukion run... bow

[noy]

He is not the big instrument, He was tempted,
this is to show that no matter what and how wicked people do the Pharisees, Judas, the inquisition, new age movement, deception, manipulation against the true followers of Christ in it will be futile.

Satan crucified Jesus in an attempt to murder the Son of God but in the end it turns out to be Christ's greatest act of salvation to human kind.
Does that mean Satan is an instrument? No it simply means he was futile and vain same with Judas, Pharisees and the Papacy.

The Papacy murdered the Many protestant Christians in the Dark Ages like John Huss, William Tyndale, but was futile and turns out to that it ignited the reformation movement.

ken let us keep the topic circulating on Judas..

OT: the papacy in the dark ages..not necessarily ALL the Pope.
and it doesnt mean shameful acts done by Catholics esp during that time
is the message of Catholicism..the evil acts were manifestations of pride,greed
corruption and politics in the church..which i assume you don't have in your church/religion?
since you are so quick to judge, didn't Jesus taught about not judging others?
religion is flawed only because humans are (angels and demons )

i know you are a christian, of all people you should know how your faith(Christianity) is misunderstood
because fellow Christians failed to act accordingly

[noy]

Yes i am sure of that, but forgiveness could never take away his guilt that's why he chose to commit suicide..

as a man full of conscience im sure nangayo jud to siya'g pasaylo ni Jesus though not directly, gabasol jud to siya'g dako.. so im pretty sure nga before to siya naghikog ug before to niya gibuhat ang pag traydor gipasaylo nto siya ni Jesus.. pero bisan pa'g gipasaylo it could never take away his guilt kay ang tawo nga mowagtang sa iyang guilt wala may konsensya, unless ug naay gaingon nya nga di sya angay maguol coz it was meant to happen somehow whether he likes it or not, nga necessary to iyang gibuhat para pag fulfill sa mga prophecies.. that would have been a happy ending in Judas' case..

in that case he(Judas) needs to firgive himself pud jud...before he can claim or feel God's forgiveness.
'cause if cgehan gihapun niya ug blame iya self then it only means he is rejecting forgiveness.
and for sure Judas would feel a lot better if He was alive when Jesus appeared to the people whe He resurrected
and told them that his death was necessary for the salvation of mankind..
if only he waited..
that's the irony of suicide,the unforgiving self...
'cause hope and solution could have been found a day or two after you chose to forfeit all possibilities.

in the case of Judas Iscariot, it was 3 only days.

[noy]

Maypa mangadtu tah sa Minteryo karun ug atung idagkot ang Kalag ni Judas.

OT:may mu sio kay wa muy work kung holidays

[noy]

With the free gift of salvation that Judas rejected and committed suicide there is no other way to describe him but a fool.

well Judas may be a fool but Only God has the right to call him such..
'cause judement is not our task anyway..might as well call other people who committed suicide a fool as well if that were the case..
have we all not sinned? didn't we all fell short from God's grace?
with God's free gift of love, we are all fools then...
we all are like Judas in our ways, betraying God in exchange for earthly pleasures and pride...
sorry bro

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

ho jovs, the gospel of Judas is not even written by Judas. as per carbon dating, it was written almost 300 years ago after his death..it was also the time as per history nga grabe kaau ka boom ang Christianity..so it is also possible nga kanang gospel of judas was to discredit the gospels or new testament accounts written by first hand witnesses themselves and those
written 50-100 years AD.

of course why would the gospel and new testament writers wrote such details about Judas when the gospel is not even about Judas..jovs, branding the Catholic Church as a false church would discredit the great minds in both past and present who believed in its doctrines esp with the Judas gospel.now by the term "great minds" i mean scientists, bible scholars,researchers
who devoted their lives in studying about the church's doctrines...one of the many is Saint Augustine.
with his past jovs, you know that he could have been one of the first people who would backed out from the catholic church if your accusations were true..but instead, he became the bishop of hippo...

i'm not saying that abuse and politics is not preset in the church but calling the church doctrines a lie
is extreme esp coming from a "happy person"like you...Lol and besides it is also OT
so si Hudas lang usa atong tukion run... bow

well, huwat lng ta when the right pope ang musulti sa tanan sekreto sa vatican hehehe. naghinay hinay na ug alisbong ang baho. ang current pope is not, usa na sa mga cardinals sauna nga mupugong kang Pope John Paul II. 120 man gani ang disciples ni Jesus apil na si Mary Magdalene, di na lng ko mo support ug evidence ana. hehehe. tsimis na lng ning ako.

ang ako nahibaw-an, Judas was a very faithful disciple of Jesus and Jesus has powers nga kabalo na siya unsa ang sunod mahitabo and he discussed it with his 120 disciples. but wala siya nahadlok, bahalag unsaon siya basta ang will ni God mao iyang tumanon, his mission diri sa earth.

naa pa gyud lain tsimis, Jesus did not die on the cross cause He and his 120 disciples had planned something na to save Jesus before he was arrested. and they were able to meet after the crucifixion and naa sa bible. tsismissss.....

[Breakeven]

@jovs

daghay nangamatay ug nangapriso tungod sa tsismis bro we should based our belief on the written word.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

@jovs

daghay nangamatay ug nangapriso tungod sa tsismis bro we should based our belief on the written word.

daghan bitaw, tan-awa o, unsa ilang gipang buhat... tsismis tsismis... ang uban nanglibak pa ni Jesus

[Breakeven]

daghan bitaw, tan-awa o, unsa ilang gipang buhat... tsismis tsismis... ang uban nanglibak pa ni Jesus

Insakto jud kaha ka sa imong interpretation nga naglibak na sila? hahah...or what if ilang gi-istoryahan diha kay about ni Jesus Christ nga tinuod jud diay syang anak sa Ginoo?


hehhehe....hunahuna manang Da Vinci bro! ayaw padala kung unsay imong nakita sa mga renaissance painting coz dili na pasabot mao na ang actual.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Insakto jud kaha ka sa imong interpretation nga naglibak na sila? hahah...or what if ilang gi-istoryahan diha kay about ni Jesus Christ nga tinuod jud diay syang anak sa Ginoo?


hehhehe....hunahuna manang Da Vinci bro! ayaw padala kung unsay imong nakita sa mga renaissance painting coz dili na pasabot mao na ang actual.

ask ko nimo bro, pila kabook ang disciple ni Jesus dala ni Judas?