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  1. #71

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    hahahaha OT dayon. hehehe. i think it is not OT. ky nag conflict man, naay verse nga tinood naa pud bakak. and speaking ug bakak, ang Catholic Church could be making bakak about Judas, and they thought nga ma erase na but naa man diay evidence nga how faithful si Judas ni Jesus as a disciple tungod aning Gospel niya. i think naa pa daghan ang uban naa mismo gitagu-an sa vatican, huwat na lng sa right pope nga mupagawas sa baho ky si pope john paul uwahi naman kaayo, tiguwang naman siya nakabalo.

    nganong waman gi mention sa matthew nga naputol ang pisi nga gihikogan ni judas, unya naugbok. wa pud giseguro ni judas kung lig-on ba ang pisi para wala nay daghan storya hehehe. wa pud gi mention sa acts nga verse nga naay pisi. seguro taas taas ang kahoy nga iyang gihikogan ky pagka ugbok niya nabungkag gud si judas unya nanggawas ang tana-i. di pud seguro mabungkag kung mubo2x lng. unya lisod pud kaayo hunahunaon nga inig hikog, maputol ang pisi unya mag-una ang ulo pagkahagbong

    OT: mura mura man ni ug storya ni teban ug goliat
    teban: namatay si tatay goliat
    goliat: ngano man noy?
    teban: naghikog
    goliat: aw, mao diay iyang namatyan
    teban: dili, naputol pa ang pisi
    goliat: ah, so nahulog siya unya na-ugbok, mao iyang namatyan?
    teban: dili gihapon goliat ky mabaw ra man ang iyang gihikogan
    goliat: unsa man diay iyang namatyan noy?
    teban: kalimot siya ug ginhawa goliat
    lingaw lingaw lng ni bro ky medyo alas 3 na sa kadlawon da hehehe
    Wa man na nag conflict jovi.. Just because wa ge detalye nag conflict na d.i? Sama sa ako giingon jovi ang possibility ana niya kay gahigot siya sa iyang liog. Wa gahisgot kon pisi ba ang gigamit o unsa ba wa pud giingon nga lig-on ba. After he hanged himself nabali siguro ang sanga paghuman ug kabali natagak siya gauna iyang ulo. Naa lang conflict jovi kun niana pa ang Acts na "he fell headlong and died" pero wa man. It's probable na patay na sya pagkatagak niya. Paghikog niya namatay sya din niburot to iya body after pila ka oras then either naputol ang iya gigamit paghigot or nabali ang sanga din natagak...wasak!

    Unsay nakalisod ana jovi? Naa man gud kay bias daan nga naa conflict mao di ka kadawat sa tubag. Possible man na mahitabo. Kun kasiguro pa ka sa gidak-on ug gibug-aton ni Hudas ug sa gidak-in sa pisi o butang nga iyang gigamit paghigot sa iyang liog ug sa kalig-on sa sanga nga iyang gihigtan kana siguro makaingon ta nga way possibilidad.. LOL Pero kasiguro ko nga wa sad ka kabalo ana. Di nalang ta moinsist na impossible. Di lang ka motuo but it's not impossible. Hahaha

  2. #72

    Default Re: Gospel of Judas debunked!

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    nganong naa lagi lahi nga version? nahulog, naugbok, nag-una ang ulo
    Whats the difference man tawn, ang point is nagbasol siya sa iyang gibuhat nya nagpakamatay.

    Ang Problema if naay Version mu ingun nga Si Judas iyang gi invest ang Silver sa isa ka IT company nga naa pa hangtod karun nga maoy Financial Backer sa mga Illuminati

  3. #73

    Default Re: Gospel of Judas debunked!

    Maypa mangadtu tah sa Minteryo karun ug atung idagkot ang Kalag ni Judas.

  4. #74

    Default Re: Gospel of Judas debunked!

    Just finished watching NatGeo's Gospel of Judas documentary.. very insightful indeed..

  5. #75

    Default Re: Gospel of Judas debunked!

    ako pud. bag-o lang ko nitan-aw sa youtube ug Gospel of Judas documentary.
    interesting pud.

    wla lang ko ni tan-aw sa debunked nga link pagkabasa nako ani
    Quote Originally Posted by KlaytoN View Post
    Another perspective? It's also a biased perspective..

    How can we get fair and balanced perspective from an evangelical fundie website?

  6. #76

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    regarding judas hanging himself, wa diay kabalo ang all knowing god nga mo traidor si judas nya maghikog ig ka human? well, it will make a far cooler story bro than let's say jesus was arrested and died of life imprisonment. murag harry potter ba, kung way mga kontrabida wa gyuy ayong libroha.

  7. #77

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    Yes i am sure of that, but forgiveness could never take away his guilt that's why he chose to commit suicide..

    as a man full of conscience im sure nangayo jud to siya'g pasaylo ni Jesus though not directly, gabasol jud to siya'g dako.. so im pretty sure nga before to siya naghikog ug before to niya gibuhat ang pag traydor gipasaylo nto siya ni Jesus.. pero bisan pa'g gipasaylo it could never take away his guilt kay ang tawo nga mowagtang sa iyang guilt wala may konsensya, unless ug naay gaingon nya nga di sya angay maguol coz it was meant to happen somehow whether he likes it or not, nga necessary to iyang gibuhat para pag fulfill sa mga prophecies.. that would have been a happy ending in Judas' case..
    He felt Guilty but he asked forgiveness.
    A gift of forgiveness can never be given to those who willingly receive.

    Judas was prideful and rejected Jesus' Death on the cross. He could have lived and be forgiven and be enlightened with the Gospel of the new covenant. Just like Paul, Peter, and the other apostles.

    Judas never had the faith as the other apostles but was a mere superficial discipleship ready to compromise his faith. He never relied on faith and looked upon Jesus for forgiveness but relied upon himself.

    With the free gift of salvation that Judas rejected and committed suicide there is no other way to describe him but a fool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    He felt Guilty but he asked forgiveness.
    A gift of forgiveness can never be given to those who willingly receive.

    Judas was prideful and rejected Jesus' Death on the cross. He could have lived and be forgiven and be enlightened with the Gospel of the new covenant. Just like Paul, Peter, and the other apostles.

    Judas never had the faith as the other apostles but was a mere superficial discipleship ready to compromise his faith. He never relied on faith and looked upon Jesus for forgiveness but relied upon himself.

    With the free gift of salvation that Judas rejected and committed suicide there is no other way to describe him but a fool.
    Judas was never a fool. It was never revealed to him that it was his duty to blast treachery upon his master.. Judas' life ended in a sad demise.. He perhaps ended his life because he could not take anymore the guilt he felt..

    one cannot Judge Judas and brand him a fool, for one does not know the conscious trouble that he went through, all the guilt, all the pain, forced into his weak little mind.. it is something a person cannot possible have bared..

    Is an apology still necessary? in a Christian point of view yes, but we have also to take into account his predestined fate, that it was set upon by God himself, if that's the case then an apology from Judas is no longer necessary..

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    Judas was a member of the Zealot... the Jewish rebels who want to restore the throne to a Jewish earthly king.

    He followed Jesus because he thought and expected he would be the earthly king that the Zealots waited. Unfortunately, Jesus' kingdom was not of this world.

    That's why he was disappointed and sold our Lord. Later on, he realized his mistake that Jesus really is a God, that's why he cannot forgive himself of the burden of guilt, he killed himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k.A.i View Post
    ako pud. bag-o lang ko nitan-aw sa youtube ug Gospel of Judas documentary.
    interesting pud.

    wla lang ko ni tan-aw sa debunked nga link pagkabasa nako ani

    Hahaha...tan.awa lang bai, at least you get to see the other side of the coin...
    total wala btaw mawala..in fact you can gain more ideas
    not looking through all possible angles is one of the main,if not the only cause
    of misunderstanding and misjudgement

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