Gospel of Judas debunked!

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

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Nabali siguro ang sanga jovs..

Bottom line namatay sya kay gahikog.

hahahaha, kabalo pud ka unsa nga verse bro nga na ugbok siya?

[NapoleonBlownapart]

hahahaha, kabalo pud ka unsa nga verse bro nga na ugbok siya?

Oo jovs...

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Oo jovs...

sige daw bro

[NapoleonBlownapart]

Pangitaa lang sa Acts jovs

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Pangitaa lang sa Acts jovs

nganong lahi lahi man ang version sa bible pagkamatay ni Judas?

Matthew 27:3-8 By hanging
"Then when Judas, who had betrayed Him, saw that He had been condemned, he felt remorse and returned the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, 4saying, "I have sinned by betraying innocent blood." But they said, "What is that to us? See to that yourself!" 5And he threw the pieces of silver into the sanctuary and departed; and he went away and hanged himself. 6And the chief priests took the pieces of silver and said, "It is not lawful to put them into the temple treasury, since it is the price of blood." 7And they counseled together and with the money bought the Potter’s Field as a burial place for strangers. 8For this reason that field has been called the Field of Blood to this day."

Acts 1:16-19 By falling
"Brethren, the Scripture had to be fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit foretold by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who became a guide to those who arrested Jesus. 17"For he was counted among us, and received his portion in this ministry." 18(Now this man acquired a field with the price of his wickedness; and falling headlong, he burst open in the middle and all his bowels gushed out. 19And it became known to all who were living in Jerusalem; so that in their own language that field was called Hakeldama, that is, Field of Blood.)"

[NapoleonBlownapart]

natubag na man na nako jovs.. OT na pud na

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

natubag na man na nako jovs.. OT na pud na

hahahaha OT dayon. hehehe. i think it is not OT. ky nag conflict man, naay verse nga tinood naa pud bakak. and speaking ug bakak, ang Catholic Church could be making bakak about Judas, and they thought nga ma erase na but naa man diay evidence nga how faithful si Judas ni Jesus as a disciple tungod aning Gospel niya. i think naa pa daghan ang uban naa mismo gitagu-an sa vatican, huwat na lng sa right pope nga mupagawas sa baho ky si pope john paul uwahi naman kaayo, tiguwang naman siya nakabalo.

nganong waman gi mention sa matthew nga naputol ang pisi nga gihikogan ni judas, unya naugbok. wa pud giseguro ni judas kung lig-on ba ang pisi para wala nay daghan storya hehehe. wa pud gi mention sa acts nga verse nga naay pisi. seguro taas taas ang kahoy nga iyang gihikogan ky pagka ugbok niya nabungkag gud si judas unya nanggawas ang tana-i. di pud seguro mabungkag kung mubo2x lng. unya lisod pud kaayo hunahunaon nga inig hikog, maputol ang pisi unya mag-una ang ulo pagkahagbong

OT: mura mura man ni ug storya ni teban ug goliat
teban: namatay si tatay goliat
goliat: ngano man noy?
teban: naghikog
goliat: aw, mao diay iyang namatyan
teban: dili, naputol pa ang pisi
goliat: ah, so nahulog siya unya na-ugbok, mao iyang namatyan?
teban: dili gihapon goliat ky mabaw ra man ang iyang gihikogan
goliat: unsa man diay iyang namatyan noy?
teban: kalimot siya ug ginhawa goliat
lingaw lingaw lng ni bro ky medyo alas 3 na sa kadlawon da hehehe

[Kenshiro]

Exactly... Judas was a big instrument in fulfilling Jesus' mission. Without proper analysis, the "hatred" of Christians towards Judas is really an image of Christians hating the Jews.

When I was a child, I asked why we condemn and disrespect Judas, and even heard stories that he went to Hell and was not given salvation inspite of his contribution.

The reason really is that, he denied repentance and due to guilt and pride he hanged himself. Unlike Peter whom denied Jesus three times.

He is not the big instrument, He was tempted,
this is to show that no matter what and how wicked people do the Pharisees, Judas, the inquisition, new age movement, deception, manipulation against the true followers of Christ in it will be futile.

Satan crucified Jesus in an attempt to murder the Son of God but in the end it turns out to be Christ's greatest act of salvation to human kind.
Does that mean Satan is an instrument? No it simply means he was futile and vain same with Judas, Pharisees and the Papacy.

The Papacy murdered the Many protestant Christians in the Dark Ages like John Huss, William Tyndale, but was futile and turns out to that it ignited the reformation movement.

[Kenshiro]

You above anyone else know that im an atheist but for the purpose of this thread let me take the liberty of speaking to you as i was when i was a Christian for the sake of stating my case..

i could not agree more bro.. i get your point clearly, you nailed it by that money metaphor of yours.. Judas did as mentioned in the Gospel succumbed to his guilt and conscience by committing suicide, it was his choice, after all we are given free will.. but was traitory his choice? that i dont know.. for it was prophesied by God that he will be traitored by one of his disciples. It was his destiny, his ultimate purpose why he was included in Jesus' Apostolic roster, hell it was his reason why he was born in the first place,. if he is thus destined, then i can pretty well say that his actions are justified in that assumption,.

his traitory for me was destined by God but his actions after that was his personal choice.. and i dont think it's right for me to condemn or hate him just because he committed suicide, he got runned over by his guilt and conscience, so what?..

He could have been forgiven.

Paul was a persecutor and murderer of but was forgiven.

David was an adulterer and murdered Uriah
Peter was a coward
The thief on the cross
Mathew the Tax collector
Judas Escariot was a betrayer.

"though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."

Judas could have been forgiven
Jesus said to all who are nailing him to the cross "Forgive them for they no not what they are doing" Judas was one of these but Judas rejected this forgiveness but instead commited suicide.

[Xian120]

He could have been forgiven.

Paul was a persecutor and murderer of but was forgiven.

David was an adulterer and murdered Uriah
Peter was a coward
The thief on the cross
Mathew the Tax collector
Judas Escariot was a betrayer.

"though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."

Judas could have been forgiven
Jesus said to all who are nailing him to the cross "Forgive them for they no not what they are doing" Judas was one of these but Judas rejected this forgiveness but instead commited suicide.

Yes i am sure of that, but forgiveness could never take away his guilt that's why he chose to commit suicide..

as a man full of conscience im sure nangayo jud to siya'g pasaylo ni Jesus though not directly, gabasol jud to siya'g dako.. so im pretty sure nga before to siya naghikog ug before to niya gibuhat ang pag traydor gipasaylo nto siya ni Jesus.. pero bisan pa'g gipasaylo it could never take away his guilt kay ang tawo nga mowagtang sa iyang guilt wala may konsensya, unless ug naay gaingon nya nga di sya angay maguol coz it was meant to happen somehow whether he likes it or not, nga necessary to iyang gibuhat para pag fulfill sa mga prophecies.. that would have been a happy ending in Judas' case..