5 US Marines raped Pinay. US flexes might over RP...

[tolstoi]

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DMANTILLA:

bai if that prosti wants respect then she should find a DECENT job...what kind of CUSTOMER will she expect with that work environment she's in..PRIEST and MORALIST?..of course it will be the kind of people who will not give them the queen's treatment...

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

BTW ..... FBM means , Fucting Brown Machine . The color designaton alone offended me .

[dmantilla]

Tolstie:

Maybe you are lucky enough nga naakay decent nga job. Mao sad na akong cge ug pangutana bai!and in fact I ask this to one girl who is working in front of manadue gasoline station. Unsay gitubag, Sir I work as a factory worker before at Danao unya kay nahuman naman akong contract I look for another one but sad to say,gikapoy nalang ko ug nagutom na akong tiyan mao nang ning sulod ko diri. Kung makahatag ka naku ug trabaho sir maski ako lay katabang mo ondang dayon ko ora mismo..Ikaw bai!!!! makahatag na nila ug trabaho?? I guess you read one of the forum who is asking help to look for a job, wherein she gradauted college. How many college graduted this year nga jobless? I can`t help this poor girl who works as an entertainer or `P` but the only thing I can help them is to respect...

DMANTILLA:

bai if that prosti wants respect then she should find a DECENT job...what kind of CUSTOMER will she expect with that work environment she's in..PRIEST and MORALIST?..of course it will be the kind of people who will not give them the queen's treatment...

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Bai ... ni sulti ma kaha siya ug ok ra niya MAG KATABANG siya .... kadaghan ngita ug katabang ah , bai ive been to that scenarios for the last 10 years as a sailor checking out all the red light district South America and Asia has to offer . Gikuha ra na nila imong simpatiya aron dako lage ka ug i TIP . A real hustler , hooker , commercial *** worker etc doesnt talk about personal matters and worst of all lets you know how bad her day is kay she wants clients to be happy and in return ... T-I-P na dako . Otherwise shot ra mo sa taro^ .... it doesnt stop there ... I still pity them because of their situation but they chose that path so walay angay basulon kundi kaugalingon ra pod nila .


Back to the topic ... I feel the dillema of the Marines now ... Ive been to their shoes deployment wise less the accusations and it is really frustrating but like I said kung guilty sila hala pakurintihi ang totoy human ipalobot sa bbrc or munti .

[dmantilla]

Naa koy punto dha bai!!!! pero dili lang nato sad i generalize tanan kay for sure katong bayhana nga akong naka istorya tinuod gyud!!!!!

Anyway back to the topic..correction lang ni ha!!!dili ra kay 5 US Marine kung dili & as what Inquirer news said..

For your information:

6 US Marines held for rape
Major test for legal provisions of VFA
By Patrick Roxas, Volt Contreras and TJ Burgonio
Inquirer News Service



SUBIC BAY FREEPORT Zone-A 22-year-old Filipino woman has allegedly been raped by six American servicemen in a rented van, in what may well be the first major test of the criminal justice provisions of the RP-US Visiting Forces Agreement.

Feliciano Salonga, chair of the Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority (SBMA), told GMA television news that the driver of the vehicle, a Starex van, had identified the six servicemen. Earlier reports said five Americans were involved in the incident.

Initial investigation showed that the woman and her stepsister were with two servicemen bar-hopping in the sprawling freeport at around 8 p.m. on Nov. 1. After two hours, the woman said the men got into trouble with the Shore Patrol and left them in a karaoke bar.

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There, she danced with a male Caucasian, believed to be a US Marine, who later took her outside to a rented vehicle and drove away. The victim, according to officers patrolling the area, was later seen by witnesses being dropped from a dark-colored van by a foreigner near the Subic telecommunications office on Waterfront Road.
Salonga said the woman "was hysterical ... without clothes on except a pair of panties."

"It was obvious that she was intoxicated and incoherent," he said. "We gave her a pair of pants to cover herself."

The woman was taken to the James L. Gordon Memorial Hospital in nearby Olongapo City for a medico-legal examination. She narrated her story after regaining her faculties.

A complaint filed with the Olongapo prosecutor's office identified the servicemen as Keith Silkwood, Daniel Smith, Albert Lara, Dominic Duplantis, Corey Barris and Chad Carpenter.

First reports said the Americans were from the aircraft carrier USS Essex, which departed yesterday along with the dock landing ship USS McHenry and the amphibious transport dock USS Juneau. The vessels arrived in the Philippines on Oct. 22 to participate in counterterrorism exercises with the Philippine military.

Salonga said the six men were left behind.

Foreign Secretary Alberto Romulo said that he was "deeply concerned" about the allegation and that he would "support all efforts by our authorities to investigate, prosecute and try this case."

"The perpetrators of this heinous crime shall be brought to justice," said Romulo, who had just arrived from a trip to the United States.

"We want to take custody of them eventually ... Let's follow the procedure and terminate this to the satisfaction of our people."

US vows to adhere to VFA
Romulo said he had instructed the Presidential Commission on the VFA to assist the complainant and support the prosecution of the case. He and the defense secretary are cochairs of the commission.

A US Embassy statement earlier yesterday indicated that five US Marines were involved--not six--and that they remained in the Philippines in connection with the case. The five were under the responsibility of the embassy, the statement said.

It said the VFA "provides the mechanism for US and Filipino authorities to work together to determine the facts of the case and to ensure that accused individuals are available to both Filipino and US investigators since the allegations would be crimes under both Filipino and US laws."

"The US will strictly adhere to the provisions of the VFA and will cooperate closely with Philippine authorities to ensure this case is handled fairly and that justice is done," the statement said.

"The US takes reports of violations of US and Philippine laws by US military personnel very seriously and will fully cooperate with the Philippine authorities in the investigation of this incident."

The VFA was ratified by the Philippine Senate in May 1999. It gives the US military access to Philippine ports and airports for refueling, supplies, repairs, and rest and recreation. The agreement also covers situations where US troops are in the country for joint exercises or shore leave.

Swift reaction
The swiftness with which US Embassy and Philippine officials reacted to the rape allegation in Subic underscored the sensitivity of the agreement.

Criminal cases involving Americans before the US' Clark Air Base and Subic Bay Naval Base--the largest outside the continental United States--were shut down in 1992 had grated on the sensitivities of Philippine nationalists and strained relations between Washington and Manila.

Militant groups say that before the bases were closed, there were 52 cases of rape, physical and sexual abuse committed against young women and children in areas surrounding the bases but that not a single American soldier had been arrested and convicted of the offenses.

Armand Arreza, administrator of the Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority, said a formal complaint would be filed in court against the suspects.

"Since law enforcement operatives here received the complaint, they immediately coordinated with the proper authorities so that the servicemen allegedly involved would not be able to leave," Arreza said.

The Americans were under strict orders to remain in the country and to answer the charges against them, an SBMA statement said.

Sen. Miriam Defensor-Santiago, chair of the Senate foreign relations committee and the oversight committee on the VFA, said she was coordinating closely with US Charge d'Affaires Paul Jones in the preliminary investigation of the Marines.

"I commend the US Embassy for choosing to keep the Marines in Metro Manila rather than shipping them out of the country and outside of Philippine jurisdiction. We shall assert primary jurisdiction on this case," Santiago said.

Primary jurisdiction
She noted that under the VFA, if an offense committed by an American serviceman is against the laws of both countries, the Philippines, as the host country, should have the primary right to exercise jurisdiction.

Santiago said that the rape charge was an offense against the laws of both the United States and the Philippines and, therefore, the Philippines, as the host country, would have primary jurisdiction over the case.

Jones arrived at the Department of Foreign Affairs after Romulo's briefing for a previously scheduled meeting. After conferring with Romulo, he told reporters the embassy had yet to receive a formal request from the government for discussions on the suspects.

"They are innocent until proven guilty," Jones said. "If found guislty, we find this an outrageous crime and we want to extend our apologies to the victim and her family." Inquirer Central Luzon Desk

Copyright 2005 Inquirer News Service. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Its good to know naay VFA ni exist .... paksit na ang 6 ka Marines if guilty sila . Id rather see them in jail and still give financial compensation to the victim . JUSTICE for ALL !!

[tolstoi]

Maybe you are lucky enough nga naakay decent nga job. Mao sad na akong cge ug pangutana bai!and in fact I ask this to one girl who is working in front of manadue gasoline station. Unsay gitubag, Sir I work as a factory worker before at Danao unya kay nahuman naman akong contract I look for another one but sad to say,gikapoy nalang ko ug nagutom na akong tiyan mao nang ning sulod ko diri. Kung makahatag ka naku ug trabaho sir maski ako lay katabang mo ondang dayon ko ora mismo..Ikaw bai!!!! makahatag na nila ug trabaho?Huh? I guess you read one of the forum who is asking help to look for a job, wherein she gradauted college. How many college graduted this year nga jobless?Huh I can`t help this poor girl who works as an entertainer or `P` but the only thing I can help them is to respect...

mao nay prinsipyo sa mga tapulan bai!..kai lagi wala kakita ug trabaho MUBILANGKAD nalang dayun sya isip prostitute?.mao nalang diay nay kapaingnan bai?....kung namaligya palang na cya ug lamas diha sa carbon mas mo respeto pako niya..unsa pagtuo nimo sa desente nga job kanang trabaho sa opisina?

[s.n.m.p.]

Di sa ni laban ko sa US DoD but if ever guilty ang mga Marines accused of rape then they are subjected to prosecution sa US and not sa Philippines . Thats what you call diplomatic immunity wherever na nasod mo ni adto as long as walay armed forces agreement like Japan and SIngapore na if didto naka commit ug crime ang service members , adto gyud sila silutan .

Lets compare scenarios to those sailors na na discharge after beating up a cab driver in Cebu about 5 years ago ?? What the squids did was wrong but di sad to mahitabo kung wala mang rip off ang cab driver taking the advantge of hubog ang sailors and dollars ang kwarta .

Back to the lady who got " RAPE " in Olonggapo , sakto si TOLSTOI , dako ang chances na prostitute to and taking the advantage of time and place and the persons involved . DOllars gud ang gi storyahan , so what gi rape siya , burikat bitaw siya and ma compensate siya sadamages thru financial matters . If that is the case ... but kung guilty ang mga sundalo then kung ako lang mismo ang tipi nila because of exploiting a fellow FIlipino , buhaton nako .

Tan awa mga tawhana. Gi rape ang ilang kadugo tua na hinoun molaban sa kano. Gidaut pa ang babaye. Kesyo burikat daw. Pastilan gihimo himoan pa gyud nila ug istorya. Sus Ginoo! Unya sa pikas nga topic bilib kuno sila sa Pilipino.

Unya diri mao pay una mo dout sa ilang isig ka Pilipino.

Mga WLAY KLARO!

[bcasabee]

Well, this is an interesting RP-US issue to watch with.

[bfg9000]

Rape victim not a *** worker, says Subic exec

http://news.inq7.net/breaking/index....story_id=55495

And even if she was... just because you're a *** worker doesn't mean guys can just assault you and rape you. Even *** workers can say no. The law doesn't exempt guys from rape if the woman happens to be a *** worker.