***truth about jesus christ!

[malic_2]

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Show me your proof nga ikaw akong gipugos! Dili man kay ikaw ra ang kamao mobasa tingali This is a public forum bro.

basaha og balik bai, ingon ko didto nga "ipugos namo". i know .

ari nako bai oi kay wa na kay klaro, mo olbo nya ka blutors.

[malic_2]

wala man tingali tay award kung mapakita nato nga nakabaws ta? hahah..unsa may makuha nato anang baws2 then off topic nata. Unsa diay gusto nimo, kanang wala nay mo-reply nimo?

k di nata diha.

mangita pa diay ka og award. imong pride mao imong award kay mobaeos gud ka.

[WordofGod]

How about share sa imong truth bro in public. Ai nang tago2 kay occult naman na.

[WordofGod]

basaha og balik bai, ingon ko didto nga "ipugos namo". i know .

ari nako bai oi kay wa na kay klaro, mo olbo nya ka blutors.

peace be with you bai! ai dibdiba!

[WordofGod]

mangita pa diay ka og award. imong pride mao imong award kay mobaeos gud ka.

K bro! nice discussion. Hopefully, we can meet someday.

[malic_2]

How about share sa imong truth bro in public. Ai nang tago2 kay occult naman na.

ngano man diay ko occult na?

4 laws.
1. to know
2. to dare
3. to will
4. TO BE SILENT

peace be with you bai! ai dibdiba!

okay ra ng dibdibon bai basta malipayon lang ta. nya ayaw lang pod og palabi og bawos ha.

K bro! nice discussion. Hopefully, we can meet someday.

no actually frustating kaayo kay not only di ka familair sa story sa 3 visitor ni abram but also sige ka og defend sa trinity but in the long run mo ingon ra diay kja nga its a mystery,hahaha. wa man kasabot so mystery na lang.

[miyay]

If there is a true Church unfortunately there are false churches.

and what is the true church?

isn't the catholic church the basis for all christian denominations? afterall, the bible as we know it today was compiled by the catholic church through several councils (Rome in 382, Hippo in 393, and Carthage in 397 and 419 and finally Trent in 1500's).

btw, sir, i'm still confused on your explanation on jesus saving all mankind. kinda slow in the head with this

[Resurgence]

Flaw pataka raman kag yawit oi.
So what are you proposing the we should not repent because it has a flaw? SO we should continue sinning Tanawa rana imong reasoning?
Sir wala nakay lain ideas to refute true Christianity so your resorting to idiotic ideas.

I believe you are questioning how wide spread is Christianity?

I feel your shoes bro. that is why you need to open your Eyes. I would invite you to have a higher level of understanding with the scriptures.

Idiotic ideas sir? I don't think so. Can you say that to the people that became atheists or turned their back on your version of "Christianity" because their priest was not able to explain why their loved one died early? Or why God took away somebody close to them? Or why, in spite of being "good Christians", they have to suffer untold miseries?

Hoi, klaroha kuno imong kaugalingon. LOL ni.ingn ko nga mo.sin nlng? Ngano d.i ug maninguha ka nga mobuhat sa FIRST and FOREMOST COMMANDMENT of Jesus Christ? O ganahan lang ka sa easy way out, which is to just glorify his "death"? Mao rman na gusto ninyo. You want the easy way out. Well, I will tell you frankly. That's not how salvation works. You have the means to save yourself. Jesus did his part. And that's by imparting his FIRST and FOREMOST COMMANDMENT, not by dying on the cross. If dying on the cross was his purpose in this world after all, should he have mentioned his FIRST and FOREMOST COMMANDMENT sir? All it takes to be "saved" is to follow that. Are you following that? Well? I guess not. Since you are so busy in glorifying his death, you failed to see that tiny verse in the Bible. And I will point out, FIRST. Which means nothing is superior or equal to it.

And regarding sa inyong "Christianity", which I find to be just "healing in the name of Jesus", "asking from God in the name of Jesus", "spreading his word(that his crucifixion was to save mankind)", and more proselytizing. Tubaga kuno ni ang g.ingn ni Jesus: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."(Matt. 7:21-23). Well?

And by claiming that salvation is only achievable by accepting Jesus' death as mankind's salvation, you are LIMITING the power of the Supreme Lord. Since when does God have to sacrifice anything in order to save somebody from sin? Isn't he God? If he wanted to, he could just erase everyone's sins with just a wave of his finger. Why the heck does he have to sacrifice his Son in order to save everybody?

Before you claim that my ideas are idiotic, know them first.

[insomniacvamp]

Idiotic ideas sir? I don't think so. Can you say that to the people that became atheists or turned their back on your version of "Christianity" because their priest was not able to explain why their loved one died early? Or why God took away somebody close to them? Or why, in spite of being "good Christians", they have to suffer untold miseries?

Hoi, klaroha kuno imong kaugalingon. LOL ni.ingn ko nga mo.sin nlng? Ngano d.i ug maninguha ka nga mobuhat sa FIRST and FOREMOST COMMANDMENT of Jesus Christ? O ganahan lang ka sa easy way out, which is to just glorify his "death"? Mao rman na gusto ninyo. You want the easy way out. Well, I will tell you frankly. That's not how salvation works. You have the means to save yourself. Jesus did his part. And that's by imparting his FIRST and FOREMOST COMMANDMENT, not by dying on the cross. If dying on the cross was his purpose in this world after all, should he have mentioned his FIRST and FOREMOST COMMANDMENT sir? All it takes to be "saved" is to follow that. Are you following that? Well? I guess not. Since you are so busy in glorifying his death, you failed to see that tiny verse in the Bible. And I will point out, FIRST. Which means nothing is superior or equal to it.

And regarding sa inyong "Christianity", which I find to be just "healing in the name of Jesus", "asking from God in the name of Jesus", "spreading his word(that his crucifixion was to save mankind)", and more proselytizing. Tubaga kuno ni ang g.ingn ni Jesus: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."(Matt. 7:21-23). Well?

And by claiming that salvation is only achievable by accepting Jesus' death as mankind's salvation, you are LIMITING the power of the Supreme Lord. Since when does God have to sacrifice anything in order to save somebody from sin? Isn't he God? If he wanted to, he could just erase everyone's sins with just a wave of his finger. Why the heck does he have to sacrifice his Son in order to save everybody?

Before you claim that my ideas are idiotic, know them first.

Your ideas are mind-blowing, to the point that some close-minded people might misclassify it as idiotic. I find them rather interesting. Mind sharing with me what your version of Christianity is?

I think the flaw here is that most Christians do not look at the reason why God used Jesus as a means to achieve salvation. Why did he have to use Jesus as a sacrifice, when he could've just erased everyone's sins as you have said.

I have to admit, salvation just by accepting Christ as Savior is too easy. Just like that? True the Bible says in John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." But I personally think there's more to that. People should view life in a different perspective.

When Jesus was about to be captured and put to death, he said in John 17:4 "I have brought you glory on earth by completing the work you gave me to do." Paul even said in Ephesians 1:5-6 that "He predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will-- to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves."

I guess then, according to those 2 verses, that God's purpose, why He used Jesus for us to be saved is for His own glory. I guess that explains the first commandment as well. The first commandment is "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. You shall have no other gods before me." isn't it? That's how God is passionate for His own Glory that we are forbidden to have other gods before him. Why? Because His glory is at stake. In fact, If you read it carefully, you would notice that the first five commandments are directly for His glory. That's how serious He is with His Glory.

I guess this also explains why those people, whose priests were not able to explain why their loved one died early or those who had somebody close taken away from them or those Christians who suffer untold miseries, turned their back on his version of "Christianity". Those people may think, "How could a loving God do this to me? I just cannot imagine." Let me tell you that you are too selfish. (All hate's on me ) kidding, but I think we are too self-centered. If Jesus' life is for God's glory, shouldn't ours be as well? Jesus had all the right to complain about his situation? But did he? No, because he knew too well that his purpose was to glorify the Father as stated above. Shouldn't we be the same too, after all, we are created for his glory (Isaiah 43:7). The problem here is that, we tend to satisfy our self-centeredness in everything, even in God. We like John 3:16 because it is about our salvation, because it's a one-way ticket to heaven, because we simply do not want to go to hell. We are "Christians" because we want the blessings and promises of God to us. And then, when something goes wrong, we immediately let go of God. We immediately deny his existence.

What we have here friends is the answer to your questions. Why did God take away your loved one too early? Because it is what Glorifies Him most/ wants to use it for His glory, and life is not all about you nor your loved ones. Why did your bestfriend die so soon? Because it is what Glorifies Him most/wants to use it for His glory, and life is not all about you nor your bestfriend. Why am I experiencing this when I am a good Christian? Because it is what Glorifies Him most/wants to use it for His glory, and life is not all about you or your being a Christian. Why was pharaoh's heart hardened, resulting to the death of all the eldest of Egypt, including his? Because it is what Glorifies Him most which is stated in Exodus 14:4. Why was Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego thrown into captivity and made servants of the King? Because when they were thrown to the fire, God was able to show his Glory by protecting his servants, thus, causing the King of Babylon (then was one of the most powerful, if not the most powerful, country) To worship God, which was stated in Daniel 3:28. This also caused everyone in the kingdom worship Him and Him alone. It's all about God and His Glory.

Everything God does is for His glory. He lives for His glory. He cannot live for his own creation because He is never-ending and we all know that His creation would end. He cannot live for the angels, because they have rebelled against Him. He cannot live for us humans, because we are not worthy. The only thing that He could live for, is Himself. If He would not, He'd be committing idolatry. Read the Bible in this perspective and you would understand it better. Why did God create galaxies so far, which are impossible to be reached by man? Why did He create oceans so deep, that man could not possibly dive? Because this is what Glorifies him.

May you Glorify Him always. :] To God be the Glory.

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

paulit-ulit parang sirang plaka Resurgence. Dalawang talata lang yata alam mo eh, the rest puro galing na sa sarili.