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  1. #311

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    Sir with all due respect wala nakay lain kay ika buga. Your just keep repeating things over and over and over. that doesn't give you the reason to say something reasonable. and your playing word games.
    mura ko nakig lalis ug gubang plaka.
    And with all do respect, you haven't even satisfied any of my questions. You keep presenting a new theory. That''s what makes me repeat the same questions.

  2. #312

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resurgence View Post
    Word game? Where's the word game in that? Aren't you playing the word game? You say that Christ died for all mankind. Now it's just for those who repented and accepted his sacrifice? Some sacrifice I would say as far as your theory goes. So he came only for those who accepted him. So his sacrifice was ultimately for those who followed him. Screw those that never knew or were ignorant of his ministry and teachings. Screw those that were born before he came. That's ACCORDING to your theory.

    Pastor sir? I bet you won't be able to refute what he would have to say if he were in my place. And he ain't no pastor as well.

    Some "merciful" God you portray now, is it? At least my perception of God and his servants is better. When his servants descend, they do sacrifice, but not blood sacrifice like you believe. They do sacrifice their lives to DELIVER people, not through self-inflictment of punishment or being crucified or by whatever, but by TEACHING PEOPLE that TRUE salvation is ONLY through LOVING God with all you heart, all your mind, your entire being. You and every other "Christian" want the easy way out. You want Christ to die, so that your sins are absolved or whatever as to what you believe. I DON'T. It would pain me greatly if someone had to suffer for whatever I did. But not you. It doesn't elicit any slight pity on what Christ had to go through. It may, but it is not actual pity, since you still believe that Christ died for a right purpose. Haven't you thought about ACTUALLY doing something so that Christ's death was not in vain? Like following his instructions for example? Did he say specifically ANYWHERE in the Bible that you have to "glorify" his crucifixion in order to be saved? No. What did he answer when he was asked that what would be his GREATEST COMMANDMENT? The word GREATEST is key there. It means NOTHING ELSE SUPERSEDES IT. Yet you keep pushing forward his crucifixion as SOMETHING that supersedes it. Well?
    Word game? Where's the word game in that? Aren't you playing the word game? You say that Christ died for all mankind. Now it's just for those who repented and accepted his sacrifice? Some sacrifice I would say as far as your theory goes. So he came only for those who accepted him. So his sacrifice was ultimately for those who followed him. Screw those that never knew or were ignorant of his ministry and teachings. Screw those that were born before he came. That's ACCORDING to your theory.
    you say Christ only came for all those who has and will accept him yes!
    What is the problem with that. Is it so hard for people to accept his sacrifice?
    For all of mankind meaning all can be saved but not all are going to be saved.
    Again your word game is you completely ignore the "IF they accept Christ sacrifice"

    Screw those that came before Christ. This is where your ignorance falls of the Bible old testament they perform animal sacrifices that symbolize Christ acceptance.
    Sir you can never refute the Bible all you do is keep on repeating stuff.

    Screw those who is ognorant of his ministry.
    Haha don't you know Ignorance is not an excuse specially in your case.

    And sir don't conclude that Christians are not following Christ teachings.
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 04-16-2011 at 04:35 AM.

  3. #313

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    you say Christ only came for all those who has and will accept him yes!
    What is the problem with that. Is it so hard for people to accept his sacrifice?
    For all of mankind meaning all can be saved but not all are going to be saved.
    Again your word game is you completely ignore the "IF they accept Christ sacrifice"

    Screw those that came before Christ. This is where your ignorance falls of the Bible old testament they perform animal sacrifices that symbolize Christ acceptance.
    Sir you can never refute the Bible all you do is keep on repeating stuff.

    Screw those who is ognorant of his ministry.
    Haha don't you know Ignorance is not an excuse specially in your case.

    And sir don't conclude why Christians are not following Christ teachings because you are ignorant.

    then POINT out where Christ SPECIFICALLY said that we need to glorify his crucifixion. Jesus Christ ha, not his apostles. I challenge you. If you can't, then your theory has no basis. Now who's ignorant?

    and regarding people who are ignorant of Christ, so that's what you can say about the African and South American tribespeople who HAVE NEVER EVEN HEARD about Christ? Screw them as well? LOL. Some portrayal of God you display sir. A merciless God who does not have pity on those who were ignorant of his Son's ministry.

  4. #314

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resurgence View Post
    And with all do respect, you haven't even satisfied any of my questions. You keep presenting a new theory. That''s what makes me repeat the same questions.
    I keep on repeating Christ Died for all of mankind. and you keep igonoring this "If they accept Christ Sacrifice and repent" That is why you keep on repeating because you don't listen.

    You say we can sin all we want because we are saved with Christ Sacrifice.
    Wala intawn ko nag sulti ani sir asa man tawn ka ana oi.
    Unsa diay inyong denomination sir?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resurgence View Post
    then POINT out where Christ SPECIFICALLY said that we need to glorify his crucifixion. Jesus Christ ha, not his apostles. I challenge you. If you can't, then your theory has no basis. Now who's ignorant?

    and regarding people who are ignorant of Christ, so that's what you can say about the African and South American tribespeople who HAVE NEVER EVEN HEARD about Christ? Screw them as well? LOL
    Hahaha, Did I said glorify? Another word game brought by you sir. I said Accept Christ sacrifice on the cross that he died for your sins.
    I accept that he died for my sins im not jumping around and glorifying horray Christ is crucified. I fact we feel really sorry for Christ when supposedly we should be the one in his place.

    How do catholics celebrate holy week like christmas?
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 04-16-2011 at 04:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    I keep on repeating Christ Died for all of mankind. and you keep igonoring this "If they accept Christ Sacrifice and repent" That is why you keep on repeating because you don't listen.

    You say we can sin all we want because we are saved with Christ Sacrifice.
    Wala intawn ko nag sulti ani sir asa man tawn ka ana oi.
    Unsa diay inyong denomination sir?
    Mao rman kahagbongan sa imo g.point, nga saved nata through Christ's sacrifice. Some people would then say, "Then I can do whatever I want, because I believe in Christ and he died for me on the cross". That's what's dangerous about your theory and that is why I don't accept it. It would show to people that any further repentance is moot and academic.

    You should have then said That Christ only died for those that believed him. Mas klaro pa unta na.

    I don't belong to any religion FYI. I aint no Buddhist, Hindu, Catholic, Christian, Muslim, etc. These "labels" all apply to this body. And I know for a fact that I am not the body, but a part and parcel of God, spirit in essence, dominated by him in position, and that my function is to render loving service to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resurgence View Post
    Mao rman kahagbongan sa imo g.point, nga saved nata through Christ's sacrifice. Some people would then say, "Then I can do whatever I want, because I believe in Christ and he died for me on the cross". That's what's dangerous about your theory and that is why I don't accept it. It would show to people that any further repentance is moot and academic.

    You should have then said That Christ only died for those that believed him. Mas klaro pa unta na.

    I don't belong to any religion FYI. I aint no Buddhist, Hindu, Catholic, Christian, Muslim, etc. These "labels" all apply to this body. And I know for a fact that I am not the body, but a part and parcel of God, spirit in essence, dominated by him in position, and that my function is to render loving service to him.
    Mao rman kahagbongan sa imo g.point, nga saved nata through Christ's sacrifice. Some people would then say, "Then I can do whatever I want, because I believe in Christ and he died for me on the cross". That's what's dangerous about your theory and that is why I don't accept it. It would show to people that any further repentance is moot and academic.
    Wala lagi mi magtuo ana sir kapoy nimo oi.
    If you think repentance is not effective then what is effective keep on sinning?
    Its even possible for a person not be saved even after He accepts Christ Sacrifice when he continues to habitually sin that is called backsliding. And there are a lot of examples in the bible about people who became a good follower of God and turned away later.

    You should have then said That Christ only died for those that believed him. Mas klaro pa unta na.
    And whats the problem with that? That is what you understand that is what I mean.
    But it has the same meaning with Christ died for all mankind If he/she accepts Christ sacrifice and repents.
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 04-16-2011 at 04:37 AM.

  8. #318

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    Wala lagi mi magtuo ana sir kapoy nimo oi.
    If you think repentance is not effective then what is effective keep on sinning?
    Its even possible for a person not be saved even after He accepts Christ Sacrifice when he continues to habitually sin that is called backsliding. And there are a lot of examples in the bible about people who became a good follower of God and turned away later.


    And whats the problem with that? That is what you understand that is what I mean.
    But it has the same meaning with Christ died for all mankind If he/she accepts Christ sacrifice and repents.
    Wa lgeh mo magtuo ana sir. Pero naa ghpn ang flaw. Mao na dili nako na madawat. Anything that involves God and his servants NEVER has any flaw whatsoever.

    And no, it doesn't have the same meaning. All of mankind denotes each and every HUMAN living on this planet. So those who don't believe or have never heard of Jesus are nothing but apes? They are not human then?

  9. #319

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resurgence View Post
    Wa lgeh mo magtuo ana sir. Pero naa ghpn ang flaw. Mao na dili nako na madawat. Anything that involves God and his servants NEVER has any flaw whatsoever.

    And no, it doesn't have the same meaning. All of mankind denotes each and every HUMAN living on this planet. So those who don't believe or have never heard of Jesus are nothing but apes? They are not human then?
    Flaw pataka raman kag yawit oi.
    So what are you proposing the we should not repent because it has a flaw? SO we should continue sinning Tanawa rana imong reasoning?
    Sir wala nakay lain ideas to refute true Christianity so your resorting to idiotic ideas.

    I believe you are questioning how wide spread is Christianity?

    I feel your shoes bro. that is why you need to open your Eyes. I would invite you to have a higher level of understanding with the scriptures.
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 04-16-2011 at 07:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resurgence View Post
    we could also say the same thing to you sir.
    aren't your beliefs based only on the Bible, and that other scriptures are "works of Satan"?
    What do you mean? Can you please cite an example?
    If you are referring to other scriptures/ accounts that do not support the truth of Jesus Christ, then can you share to us your version of truth?

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