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  1. #301

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    Quote Originally Posted by malic_2 View Post
    naglisod bitaw to siya,hehe. no need to email them oi, naa nakoy evidence nga naglisod siya og tobag,katong link imong gihatag.
    hehheheh..kataw-anan brod.
    Tubaga ni brod ai,,,YouTube - The New Age Movement - The Lie of the Serpent - 1

    maybe makasugat ka ug mga occultist karon nga time bah. another topic ni sya

  2. #302

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    Quote Originally Posted by malic_2 View Post
    i did. but i wouldn't waste any more time. the last time was frustrating. the 3 visitors of Abram is usually where good apologists go in their attempt to define the trinity. but you failed in this area bro,sorry.
    Apologist have their own way of explanation. You cannot dictate them! Is that your basis of calling somebody as "good apologist" by that example? Don't be afraid. Just try to raise your most logical question. You are very welcome to them Here's the link again...www.rzim.com

    Can you explain your side about the flaws of the trinity? Please.....maybe I can learn something new. Hopefully!

  3. #303

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    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod View Post
    Apologist have their own way of explanation. You cannot dictate them! Is that your basis of calling somebody as "good apologist" by that example? Don't be afraid. Just try to raise your most logical question. You are very welcome to them Here's the link again...Welcome to Ravi Zacharias International Ministries

    Can you explain your side about the flaws of the trinity? Please.....maybe I can learn something new. Hopefully!
    its useless to explain it to this poster. because he completely discredits the facts in the Bible about Jesus divinity but just selects few facts proving Jesus as a man.
    This is clearly Biased
    What we believe is that Jesus was both Man and God. They believe in Jesus as a man they are right but Jesus is also a God and they ignore it.
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 04-15-2011 at 11:40 PM. Reason: simplified explanation.

  4. #304

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    we could also say the same thing to you sir.
    aren't your beliefs based only on the Bible, and that other scriptures are "works of Satan"?

  5. #305

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resurgence View Post
    we could also say the same thing to you sir.
    aren't your beliefs based only on the Bible, and that other scriptures are "works of Satan"?
    Yes Sola Scriptura the Bible and the Bible only as the sole authority of the word of God.

  6. #306

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    Well didn't I told you already only those who are saved are the ones who accepted Christ teachings and sacrifice and has repented? Of course those people who keeps on sinning will reap what they sow. Do you want to talk about the hellfire?

    Its worthless to argue with you if i keep on repeating.
    Didn't you say that Christ's sacrifice was for "all mankind"? Which "all" is that then? Just the believers? Then his sacrifice is not for all then, is it? Just for the benefit of the few. Contradicting au na inyo beliefs, mao btw nihawa ko dha. Way klaro ang mga tigtudlo. Puro mystery2x and so on and so forth is mysterious. God is no mystery. And did I say I was sinless? No, I NEVER did sir. I only said I was doing everything in my life to be pleasing to God. I dedicate everything I do everyday to him. Where's the part in which I claimed I was sinless with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    Yes Sola Scriptura the Bible and the Bible only as the sole authority of the word of God.
    then God must be illiterate. because his words are only contained in one book, whereas HUMAN authors can write dozens.

  8. #308

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resurgence View Post
    Didn't you say that Christ's sacrifice was for "all mankind"? Which "all" is that then? Just the believers? Then his sacrifice is not for all then, is it? Just for the benefit of the few. Contradicting au na inyo beliefs, mao btw nihawa ko dha. Way klaro ang mga tigtudlo. Puro mystery2x and so on and so forth is mysterious. God is no mystery. And did I say I was sinless? No, I NEVER did sir. I only said I was doing everything in my life to be pleasing to God. I dedicate everything I do everyday to him. Where's the part in which I claimed I was sinless with that?
    This is for people with reasonable minds.

    Christ died for all who accepted this sacrifice and repented.
    "For all who repented and accepted his sacrifice." How hard is that to understand.
    Christ died for all but the problem is have they accepted Christ sacrifice and have repented?

    Again I don't want to argue you, you let me keep on repeating the things I have already mentioned. You keep going in circles because you won't listen. Don't try to trick me with your word game.
    Where do you get your sources anyway your pastor?
    No matter how you think how Good you are you are not upto the standard of God's rightenousness even the pharisees think they are Good.
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 04-16-2011 at 03:45 AM. Reason: additional explanation

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    Sir with all due respect wala nakay lain kay ika buga. Your just keep repeating things over and over and over. that doesn't give you the reason to say something reasonable. and your playing word games.
    mura ko nakig lalis ug gubang plaka.
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 04-16-2011 at 03:52 AM.

  10. #310

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    This is for people with reasonable minds.

    Christ died for all who accepted this sacrifice and repented.
    "For all who repented and accepted his sacrifice."

    Again I don't want to argue you, you let me keep on repeating the things I have already mentioned. You keep going in circles because you won't listen. Don't try to trick me with your word game.
    Where do you get your sources anyway your pastor?
    Word game? Where's the word game in that? Aren't you playing the word game? You say that Christ died for all mankind. Now it's just for those who repented and accepted his sacrifice? Some sacrifice I would say as far as your theory goes. So he came only for those who accepted him. So his sacrifice was ultimately for those who followed him. Screw those that never knew or were ignorant of his ministry and teachings. Screw those that were born before he came. That's ACCORDING to your theory.

    Pastor sir? I bet you won't be able to refute what he would have to say if he were in my place. And he ain't no pastor as well. He got all that he teaches me from his spiritual master, and so on and so forth. Want a list of all their names? The list goes beyond Christ itself. We don't preach or spread anything that is manufactured. We only speak whatever we were taught.

    Some "merciful" God you portray now, is it? At least my perception of God and his servants is better. When his servants descend, they do sacrifice, but not blood sacrifice like you believe. They do sacrifice their lives to DELIVER people, not through self-inflictment of punishment or being crucified or by whatever, but by TEACHING PEOPLE that TRUE salvation is ONLY through LOVING God with all you heart, all your mind, your entire being. You and every other "Christian" want the easy way out. You want Christ to die, so that your sins are absolved or whatever as to what you believe. I DON'T. It would pain me greatly if someone had to suffer for whatever I did. But not you. It doesn't elicit any slight pity on what Christ had to go through. It may, but it is not actual pity, since you still believe that Christ died for a right purpose. Haven't you thought about ACTUALLY doing something so that Christ's death was not in vain? Like following his instructions for example? Did he say specifically ANYWHERE in the Bible that you have to "glorify" his crucifixion in order to be saved? No. What did he answer when he was asked that what would be his GREATEST COMMANDMENT? The word GREATEST is key there. It means NOTHING ELSE SUPERSEDES IT. Yet you keep pushing forward his crucifixion as SOMETHING that supersedes it. Well? Now why is that? Are you or any priest better than Jesus that you should alter his message?

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