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    Science is still exploring, how about if along the way Science would find out that GOD do really exist, our perception of things in Scientific perspective is still limited, it is still in the exploration and investigation stages. That is why evolution is still a Theory until now not yet a fact and Big Bang as well is still a theory, so nothing yet is conclusive.....

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    we are in a time when science itself lends to the cunning of Capital, science is nothing but ideology, and ideology is nothing but a code in the system. determinacy is dead. Everything is absorbed as mere simulation. so why bother talk about creationism, whether you like it or not, what will unfold according to the logic of political economy, it will unfold, you can do nothing about it.

  3. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by cromagnon View Post
    ^ u may want to call it fait or sixth sense, i can say we are shaloow on our knowledge about our brain .


    but never religion nor bible books and miracle claims are just to insane .
    it's hard to argue with creationists because they always love to be on the safe side. statements like "we only have our faith and God" is hard to counteract because no matter what you say, they always have God as their argument.

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    We are perceivers. We are an awareness; we are not objects; we have no solidity. We are boundless. The world of objects and solidity is a way of making our passage on earth convenient.
    Michael Talbot

    We only saw ourselves what we are in the capacity of our very own conception still deficient and yet possible to reach completion.

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    an attempt to rhyme?

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    We are perceivers. We are an awareness; we are not objects; we have no solidity. We are boundless. The world of objects and solidity is a way of making our passage on earth convenient.
    Michael Talbot

    We only saw ourselves what we are in the capacity of our very own conception still deficient and yet possible to reach completion.
    At least the concept of god is now starting to fade/.

  7. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Yes, ITS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO REFUTE HIM... TRY! I challenge you TRY IT.


    In the first place, these are scientists, spending their life to find answers... they all have theory, it so happen, hovind moving could be moving in the right direction. Maybe you have yours, we can TRY it. Don't get into conclusion that your theory of evolution is absolute, it might be FALSE, aw IT IS FALSE.
    No need to refute him kebz because he already landed in a 10-year jail time. Hovind's ideas are interesting but what made him easy to refute because he spoke of things that are garbage. What I don't like about him is that he goes telling people to believe God's creation which is only written in the book. But, when he was asked about geological anthropology, he reverts himself to scientific findings that according to this and that... and science observed this... and that... those kind of stuff.

    Isn't it ironic why creationists borrow so much scientific discoveries or methods just to prove their theories? Creationists supposed to argue science instead, they use science for their need. That's pathetic.

    oh btw, relax! your blood pressure is going up.

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    ^^not as badass as Dawkins, eh?

  9. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    No need to refute him kebz because he already landed in a 10-year jail time. Hovind's ideas are interesting but what made him easy to refute because he spoke of things that are garbage. What I don't like about him is that he goes telling people to believe God's creation which is only written in the book. But, when he was asked about geological anthropology, he reverts himself to scientific findings that according to this and that... and science observed this... and that... those kind of stuff.

    Isn't it ironic why creationists borrow so much scientific discoveries or methods just to prove their theories? Creationists supposed to argue science instead, they use science for their need. That's pathetic.

    oh btw, relax! your blood pressure is going up.
    wow.. he actually is really in jail until 2015.. can't believe i'm saying this, but i think he deserves it.. poor guy though.. gosh..

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    The Hovinds were charged with a total of 58 counts of tax evasion.
    Counts one through 12 include Kent Hovind’s alleged failure to collect nearly $470,000 in employee taxes.
    Counts 13 through 57 include both Kent and Jo Hovind. They are charged with structuring cash transactions of $430,500 to avoid reporting requirements.
    Count 58 includes the following charges against Kent Hovind:
    Filing a frivolous lawsuit against the IRS, demanding damages for criminal trespass.
    Filing an injunction against an IRS agent.
    Making threats against investigators and those cooperating with the investigation.
    Filing false complaints against the IRS for false arrest, excessive use of force and theft.
    Because he thought that by creationism, he can get away with those things. I am curious if can ask help from his fellow creationists because the update was that his ministry is loosing its members.

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