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  1. #31

    Quote Originally Posted by anaksatawo View Post
    this is actually my point TS. maybe it took them experience first before actually believing in GOD. it's not something that happens overnight IMO.



    on what if's and maybe's:
    its because...


    lastly, maybe i have the WRONG impression of you. need a getting used to pa me thinks.
    Wow are you benchmarking people with your brilliant intellect?

    Professing they are wise, they become fools.

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Wow are you benchmarking people with your brilliant intellect?

    Professing they are wise, they become fools.
    well, we (esp. you) don't want to dwell on that. i suggest we stay on topic, please?

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Hm... read the posts are they LIES? who believe in LIES NOW? hmmm! must be loosing the senses?

  4. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Homo_quaeritans View Post
    We need to understand that before Israel became a nation, Egypt was their home. Moses the man who led Israel was raised by the royal family of Egypt, and royalties during that time were educated according to the pagan culture of Egypt,that includes mysticism, kabbalah, magic.

    and it is not surprising that Judaism reflects some pagan rituals like offerings of animals to appeased the Deities.

    Moses was a great mystic, he had achieved mastery in mysticism. no wonder he can produced magical phenomena.

    and i believe that Moses was able to hand down his wisdom and skills to his disciples w/c later on taught other disciples too like Elisha, elijah and other prophets.

    Remember the Magi of the New testament? they were not jews but how did they get to know the birth of Jesus? there is only one explanation. These people were students if not masters of mysticism.

    Mystics were the great people of ancient times.

    pls read Matthew chapter 2 so that you'll know how those wise men from the east knew about jesus. and also watch the movie 10 commandments and if you're not satisfied read the books of moses in the old testament.

  5. #35
    they were prophets.

  6. #36
    The magi or wise men were astronomers who were astonished by the huge unusual star... And they heard "the Jewish legend" and so they went to check it out...

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Your accusation have ONE VERY BIG MISTAKE. Mystics don't Glorify God. MOSES DID. And yea he fought the pharoa's MYSTICS... Maybe he is anti MYSTIC... hahaha
    on the contrary mystics do glorify god. Yes mystics do fight each other.

    Moses learned his magic from the Egyptian pagan culture.

  8. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by countrykidanthony View Post
    The magi or wise men were astronomers who were astonished by the huge unusual star... And they heard "the Jewish legend" and so they went to check it out...

    Was there astronomy during Jesus' time? pls study the Magi. The name itself reflects the idea that they were skillful practitioner of mysticism. and their study brought them to Jesus.

    A proof that mysticism is an art guided by the divine.

  9. #39
    unsa man jud gi pasabot sa bible, ?
    dpende ra cguro sa pagasabot.

    i think what the bible said is one of the earliest interpretation of the universe.

    just like symbols is the ealy interpretation of letters and writings.

    for aztects they offer human heart to keep the sun from burning at for it to rise everyday.
    (from movie apocalypto) its their own interpretation.



    well, the bible has accuracies, but does that mean that we will believe on it more than NASA.

  10. #40
    Moses was a great mystic, he had achieved mastery in mysticism. no wonder he can produced magical phenomena.
    i just still cant believe on magic , unless on movies/ are there any present day mystics that can do telekinesis?
    david blain - is still a trick

    egyptian - also had many gods. and also has their own interpretation.

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