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  1. #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Homo_quaeritans View Post
    We need to understand that before Israel became a nation, Egypt was their home. Moses the man who led Israel was raised by the royal family of Egypt, and royalties during that time were educated according to the pagan culture of Egypt,that includes mysticism, kabbalah, magic.

    and it is not surprising that Judaism reflects some pagan rituals like offerings of animals to appeased the Deities.

    Moses was a great mystic, he had achieved mastery in mysticism. no wonder he can produced magical phenomena.

    and i believe that Moses was able to hand down his wisdom and skills to his disciples w/c later on taught other disciples too like Elisha, elijah and other prophets.

    Remember the Magi of the New testament? they were not jews but how did they get to know the birth of Jesus? there is only one explanation. These people were students if not masters of mysticism.

    Mystics were the great people of ancient times.

    Remember the Magi of the New testament? they were not jews
    --- are magi limited to RACE? Hmmm common sense tells me something.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by countrykidanthony View Post
    therefore if i say that u are not true and u do not exist and that ur just a hallucination not to be taken seriously, then its my truth...

    the earth we live in may just be a pigment of our imagination and the food we eat is just an illusion because i perceive them as "untrue"... That would be the case if truth is subjective.

    therefore there's no need for jail and lawyers because everything we do can be perceived as truth...

    If a am sick, i may not need to go to the doctor because my sickness is a lie and my "wellness" is the truth even if evidence shows that i am really sick.
    even some lawyers stand their ground on the basis of lies. you see my physical being as your "truth" but you cannot call it a "lie" at the same time because i exist physically in a physical world. therefore, truth in this case is not subjective but reality. maybe the correct word is "relative".

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by countrykidanthony View Post
    People will really push their intellect to disprove God. and its all a matter of pride.. an old issue
    that isn't really the case for some. not pride but a case of unbelief.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Well I connot prove that you believe in Lies neither do you can prove i believe in lies... then we will have to see. Who are the IGNORANTS..
    in a simple perspective, why would you believe in lies in the first place?

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    even some lawyers stand their ground on the basis of lies. you see my physical being as your "truth" but you cannot call it a "lie" at the same time because i exist physically in a physical world. therefore, truth in this case is not subjective but reality. maybe the correct word is "relative".
    God for me is actually relative because i did (and still do) experience the grace of God every day and i do experience Jesus. Something people will never understand unless they themselves experienced it. I was once one of those guys who don't believe until i experienced it myself...

    And i know i'm not alone in this experience..

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Remember the Magi of the New testament? they were not jews but how did they get to know the birth of Jesus? there is only one explanation. These people were students if not masters of mysticism.
    --- wrong there are many possibilities. Don't close out on the others you are never certain... RIGHT? they know why, because the devil told them. Devil come to steal to kill and to destroy.. whatever the case of you brad, i wonder if you belong on this team.

    Study the Magi. They were students of the mystic arts like Moses.

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    in a simple perspective, why would you believe in lies in the first place?
    because the word believe has in it the word LIE.

    see BeLIEve. its like almost you must lie to believe-beLIEve. just kidding.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by countrykidanthony View Post
    God for me is actually relative because i did (and still do) experience the grace of God every day and i do experience Jesus. Something people will never understand unless they themselves experienced it. I was once one of those guys who don't believe until i experienced it myself...

    And i know i'm not alone in this experience..
    this is actually my point TS. maybe it took them experience first before actually believing in GOD. it's not something that happens overnight IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    what i am trying to say is that people may have attributed this specific details to some higher being or power but that the discovery of such was accidental or was a result of constant innovation/improvements (maybe taking several years or generations).
    --- that maybe of your brad still is no proof. What you are trying to do is to speculate other possibility of making it wrong. Too many truth in one book? that must be something... Nostradamus got a few... but mostly are wrong... but he is still a celebrity. I wonder why you people are desperately trying to make it wrong using ur WHAT IF's and MAYBE's....

    lastly, i think you're too combative on your replies. its not a case of you against the world dood
    --- i donot have to be an intelligent thinker as long as im no dumb. There was nothing to counter your replies but to ask an evidence of your claims...
    on what if's and maybe's:
    its because...
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    --- wrong there are many possibilities. Don't close out on the others you are never certain... RIGHT?
    lastly, maybe i have the WRONG impression of you. need a getting used to pa me thinks.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    in a simple perspective, why would you believe in lies in the first place?
    Hm... read the posts are they LIES? who believe in LIES NOW? hmmm! must be loosing the senses?

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Homo_quaeritans View Post
    Study the Magi. They were students of the mystic arts like Moses.
    Your accusation have ONE VERY BIG MISTAKE. Mystics don't Glorify God. MOSES DID. And yea he fought the pharoa's MYSTICS... Maybe he is anti MYSTIC... hahaha

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