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  1. #61

    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    I hope not brad, i will do my best to avoid it... hope nobody would tempt me to mock again... bulabog napod ...

    The way i see its rolling brod, i think your the one tempting them to mock you.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Atheism is a lack of belief mentality which rejects the existence of anything supernatural. By default, atheists are also naturalists and evolutionists.


    The Laws of Conservation

    If matter and energy cannot be created, how did they originate?
    Again, it is impossible to create matter and energy through natural methods. However, they do exist, so we find ourselves in a quandary. It would seem to the unbiased either matter and energy made themselves from nothing or a supernatural creator made them. Both answers violate the law of conservation.

    If the universe is "all matter and energy", how could it be an open system?
    If the universe is everything, how can there be something else out there to provide more matter and energy?
    A closed system is defined as a system in which neither matter nor energy can be exchanged with its surroundings. Matter and energy cannot enter or escape from a closed system. It has boundaries that cannot be crossed. The definition of the word universe is all matter and energy, including the earth, the galaxies and the contents of intergalactic space, regarded as a whole

    "There is not even one generally accepted scientific theory on the origin of matter and energy."



    The Law of Biogenesis


    This law is composed of two parts. The first part states that living things only come from other living things and not from non-living matter. Life only comes from life. The second part of this law states that when living things procreate, their offspring are the same type of organism they are.

    How could DNA and RNA evolve from something very rudimentary into their present day intricacy when the organism containing the basic genome would require the more complex, present day DNA and RNA to replicate?

    The Gene Emergence Project has sponsored an event called The Origin of Life Prize. They are currently offering 1 million dollars to anyone who can offer a credible, verifiable and reproducible explanation of the origin of life.
    "Origin of Life Prize - Life Origins - Abiogenesis"

    "There is not even one generally accepted scientific theory on the origin of life."


    Scientific Method

    The scientific method is held in high esteem by most atheists and it is composed of the following parts...


    1) Careful observation of a phenomenon.
    2) Formulation of a hypothesis concerning the phenomenon.
    3) Experimentation to demonstrate whether the hypothesis is true or false.
    4) A conclusion that validates or modifies the hypothesis.


    Nobody has ever observed the creation of matter or energy.
    Nobody has ever observed a molecular cloud collapse or any planet form.
    Nobody has ever observed abiogenesis.
    Nobody has ever observed the evolution of any genome.
    Nobody has ever observed any phylum, class, order or family change.


    Evolutionists are excellent at Step 2 - Hypothesizing.

    The only problem comes on Steps 1, 3 and 4 - Observation, Experimentation and Validation.

    We read about their theories and the conclusions of the failed experiments they performed in an effort to validate their opinions about a phenomenon that has not only never been proven scientifically but has never even been observed.

    The definition of a miracle is an event which is inexplicable by the laws of nature. The fact is there are zero generally accepted scientific explanations on these issues. If you want to believe in naturalism it is fine with me but please don't make the erroneous claim that "science" is on your side.



    What term is used to describe something you believe to be true but has no empirical evidence?

    Faith.
    hmm... murag di man ko katuo c kebot nagsulat ani... hmmm... i google beh...
    ay Anointed-One.net
    hmm.. unsa man ni si kebot cheater man, gamit man ug lain tao para makakuha ug leverage sa debate... himo imo kaugalingon arguments oi..

    Quote Originally Posted by pnoize View Post
    moderator's note

    Learn to respect members of this forum. ANY MEMBER CAUGHT INSULTING OTHER MEMBERS IN THIS FORUM WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY BANNED PERMANENTLY.
    hmm.. kadali lng MOD insulting ones belief can be considered an indirect insult to a person, so unsa man undangon na nato ni tanan thread targeting other belief, kay ako wla ko problema ana...
    ug usa pa, tanan post nako targeted kay kebot kay grabe man gud niya hate sa atheism, siya man sige ug himo ug thread so bawos lng ko sa arguments... mao wla ko mag start ug thread para maundang na ni...

    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    Brad I don't need a million post to be happy... it doesn't count to me at all.

    Just don't start a fire to avoid heat at all! well see how things goes...
    psst kinsa ra kaha sige himo ug thread na sige ug start ug fire..... ako wla jud ko mag start ug thread bawos lng ko sa mga arguments...

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    OT: kebot, dili gihapon ko kaau ka gamit sa ako pc kay busy ko karon panahona, cge pa start ug thread kay di pa tika ma kulata dayon sa arguments..

    hahay offline mode napud... kapoy jud mangita ug kwarta uy...

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by flying fish View Post
    The way i see its rolling brod, i think your the one tempting them to mock you.
    the itch is still there, I suppose. But to get rid of the itch... kaluta aron mahuwasan!

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    the itch is still there, I suppose. But to get rid of the itch... kaluta aron mahuwasan!
    ayaw na ang kalot kay masamad ang skin.. haplos lng.. kay sensitive jud..

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    So why do you believe on those things? they were not proven yet right? Gud now we are at the edge of the discussion...

    So how do you call it? a belief that was not proven yet you believe it without doubt? please answer this question brad.

    "The truth claims of atheism simply cannot be proved. How do we know that there is no God? The simple fact of the matter is that atheism is a faith, which draws conclusions that go beyond the available evidence." - British philosopher Alister McGrath
    https://www.istorya.net/forums/spirit...e-experts.html
    Let me add to this discussion. Kebz, the faith that you are trying to equate to atheists are not the same as yours. You want them to admit that having faith is related to religious faith. They are in general are different. FAITH is not copyright and owned by religion. FAITH can be used in many ways. If for some reasons atheists says they have faith... it wouldn't be religious.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    ha ako? y man musumbong ko.. hahaha! sorry brad you are barking the wrong tree... And I am not surprise if i got another infraction... infact i was thinking creating more email account..
    saba diha puro ra ka storya.. pa-george2x pka!! baba lay gaayo nmu!!

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    Let me add to this discussion. Kebz, the faith that you are trying to equate to atheists are not the same as yours. You want them to admit that having faith is related to religious faith. They are in general are different. FAITH is not copyright and owned by religion. FAITH can be used in many ways. If for some reasons atheists says they have faith... it wouldn't be religious.
    bitaw bay kebs ang imo tingali pasabot kung pareha ba ang faith sa science og ang faith sa religion. walay labot ang atheism sa science oi. basin tingali kani nga title imo pasabot "Faith in Science vs Faith in Religion". Kung inana imong pagbutang sa titulo sa thread, mahimong mamaayo tingali ang atong pag-diskurso.

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by tarpolano View Post
    bitaw bay kebs ang imo tingali pasabot kung pareha ba ang faith sa science og ang faith sa religion. walay labot ang atheism sa science oi. basin tingali kani nga title imo pasabot "Faith in Science vs Faith in Religion". Kung inana imong pagbutang sa titulo sa thread, mahimong mamaayo tingali ang atong pag-diskurso.
    ambot ngano kaha hilig cya ingon ani nuh! bcn iya jd ni gituyo bai pra ang mga forumer dri mag-libog og lalis ky ganahan mn tingali na cya og away.. war freak man tingali ni

    brad kebz, dont be offend ha friendly advice lang ni. kinahanglan na jd tingali ka pa consult og psychiatrist.

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