5 US Marines raped Pinay. US flexes might over RP...

[jnex]

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Thats big bull***t!

Pareha aning atong kauban nga mga istoryan nga mahilig ug bar do you mean to say nga mga opportunists ni sila or mga liberated?Â* Kung mosulod kag bar liberated na diay dayun ang babaye or kaha namingwit na ug kano?

For all you know, limpyo ang intention sa babaye nga mokuyog kay basin gi sweet talk ug maayo sa Kano then suddenly gi rape sya.

Unfair kaayo ning imong statement.Â* Ing ani na diay ka mubo ang imopng pag tan-aw sa imong isig ka Filipino.

Kung Mahilig ka.... unya kung naay mo sit-sit nimong caucasian mo kirig2x dayon ug do-ol aw Liberated kaayo uy.....unsa man diay lain paagi para mokuyog nimo ang babaye diba i-sweet talk man gyud...sa bagay kusog man nang "LUMAY" sa inyo. Limpyo na kung limpyo ang intention sa babaye....sa ngalan nga mi kirig gyud sya ug uban...ma basol gyud sya!! Remember SUBIC FREEPORT!!! walay procession para sa mga birhin did2..

[FK]

Limpyo na kung limpyo ang intention sa babaye....sa ngalan nga mi kirig gyud sya ug uban...ma basol gyud sya!!

pagkapait ang biktima na d i basolon ron... kahinumdum man lang ko ingon sa usa nako ka classmate nga nasakpan siya nanundog. "Ni gawas man gud ka ma'am" Pastilan!

[jnex]

Limpyo na kung limpyo ang intention sa babaye....sa ngalan nga mi kirig gyud sya ug uban...ma basol gyud sya!!

pagkapait ang biktima na d i basolon ron... kahinumdum man lang ko ingon sa usa nako ka classmate nga nasakpan siya nanundog. "Ni gawas man gud ka ma'am" Pastilan!

Dapat ang rason niya: 'NAGPASUNDOG MAN GUD SYA MA'AM"......ngeee!

[wmsu_rebel]

dad-a n lang dri sa zamboanga 'nang mga mestizong unggoya na. zamboangueña ra ba tung gi atraso nila. let us- zamboangueños- exact justice for our fellow chabacano.

pamutlon namo ng ulo anang mga buanga na.

kortaw se di inyo mga putlain pututuy! mga iho de puta amerikano kamo!
@!#@&^*(()&%#$##@!

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

What also makes you think that the majority of Filipinos are, as you say, opportunists and out to make a quick buck? Do you know the majority of Filipinos and how they think and act in such situations?

Filipinos turned OPPORTUNIST are far from being stereotyped , it is proven not only to my observation but to anyone else . They became one because not they chose to but they dont have a choice . Ayaw gamita ang idea na to make a QUICK BUCK because we are talking about OPPORTUNITY in general .

I may not know the fellow Filipinos I've dealt with as much as you like, but my opinion of them comes from my personal experiences with them. Heck, even my barber chased me outside the barbers shop to return excess money to me when I overpaid for a haircut (I was in a hurry and mistakenly thought I paid P100 when I actually gave a P500 bill). Maybe your low opinion of your fellow Filipinos was formed by your own experiences... have you often been gypped or taken advantage of by a fellow Filipino?

Daghan ra ka gi sulti , in short kadtong barbero ba lage nimo is usa ra to kabuok versus the maybe million something OPPORTUNIST FIlipinos . Ive seen it all ... it doesnt have to be me linked personally .... be OPEN MINDED . Like I said , opportunista man gani mga politiko nato na mga bilyonaryo na sila , unsa pa kaha mga ultimo na kababayan nato .

Your so-called "factors" led you to say that the victim is "likely" to be a prostitute and/or an opportunist.

IT is not actually mine , gikan ra pod sa REPORTS na gipang post ninyo that makes one PONDER .

I never said the girl was innocent and the men guilty. I only took exception to your assertion that she's "likely" to be a prostitute or opportunist out to make a quick buck from the american soldiers, because I believe that's totally unfair to her since your basis for that assertion is your belief that the majority of Filipinos are opportunists and "out for money", which I believe to be inaccurrate and insulting to all Filipinos.

INsulting it maybe be , apil pod ko ana but SAD BUT TRUE . Ayaw lage ko tuyuka , I was all being open minded , wala man gani ko ni laban sa kano because I am for investigation and let the truth come out . Kamo ra man cge ug pursige na RAPIST ang kano and BIKTIMA ang PInay to think chances are and most likely wala pa mo naka tugpa gani or kita unsya itsura sa Gapo or ANgeles City and you guys know too much . Ako ni base lang ko sa experience and reports na gikan ra pod ninyo .

Since you say that yes, the "victim" is likely just an opportunist based on your above-mentioned incorrect stereotypes, why can't we also assume that the Americans did rape her based on an incorrect stereotype that American soldiers are ***-craved maniacs who want to gang-rape all Filipinas gullible enough to get into their vehicle?

Why not .... you guys already did since the start of the discussion . No harm done LOLZ !

The fact that you say "chances are" she's a hooker or opportunist, without any investigation, but say that we should NOT assume that the Americans did rape her, again without investigation, really sounds to me like a double-standard.

By saying CHANCES ARE makes me assume it ? That is my stand and not specualting who she is . Heck I really think she is one , bahala magsakit mo sa gi sulti nako .

Ok... lets do it your way... "Chances are" the American soldiers did rape her, because soldiers are generally ***-craving maniacs who will jump at the chance of gang-raping a Filipina when there's an "opportunity". Does that sound fair to you? Here I didn't say they raped her, I said "chances are" they raped her, based on "factors" such as soldiers being away from women for considerable periods of time, building up testosterone from all that violence and physical activity. Fair enough?

Wrong THINKING ! Bisan ug di ka military , a RAPE is still likely to happen . You dont have to be a soldier , ang ISSUE is kay FOREIGNER sila , US Armed Forces pa gyud , mao I strongly suggest before mo mo jump sa conclusions , INVESTIGATE . Regarding sa akong pag judged sa VICTIM as a PROSTITUTE , we'll see . You maybe will have the last laugh kung sayop ko ..... pero wala ta kahibaw pod .

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

i agree with you bfg9000 ,,some people here dont understand . lets just base the discussion on the facts thats presented on t.v,,the girl belongs to a middle class family, shes a college graduate, known to be a homebody, no history of being a wild chick,,,,

I maybe have missed reports from this but gipakita ka aside lang sa REPORT the residence of the victim sa Zambo ? Gipakita ba ang family sa victim na they belong to a middle class family ? ABi ba nako s auna na report they belong to a respectable and influential family whom sobra pa man na sa middle class na . Gipakita kung asa siya na alumni and people that are close to her vouching for her being a MARIA CLARA ? DI na supo^ ako-a , querry lang kay sa reports na nakita n nabasa pod nako , those I asked for were absent . Reports ra sa us aka reporter w/c maniac pod kaau ug dagway ang reporter .

theres a medico legal evidence already, theres a witness of the crime (who i think was paid to keep quite) & theres the victim ! whats so hard to understand ??

Whats hard to understand ? Wheres the MEDICO LEGAL ? Was it positive that she was raped extracting DNA and body fluids that matches from the accused ? Kinsay witness ? Aw if that witness driver was paid to shut up , ..... ehem BFG9000 , another one bites the dust for the FILIPINO OPPORTUNIST bai .

if u think it was just plain hard *** & the woman just cried rape after,,,,, well there is a certain standard that these expert medico legal around the world practice to determine between hard *** & rape itself ! thats why they are called expert witness! based on the facts presented its a difinite rape! but im almost sure that this case will just be swept under the rug to avoid international conflict or issues !

Sayop ka ... you may have a point but kung tinuod na RAPE , remember FILIPINA ( babay ) ang presidente nato ug sarado Katoliko .

its soooo bad for some people here to even think sooooo low of our fellow filipino ! ask urself a question ,,,, do u want money,,,do you want to to be raped & destroy your familys reputation is that how some people look at filipinos nowdays?? stop generalizing filipinos ,, kamo tingali opportunist! kamo tingali mag pa rape lang for money! base disscussions sa mga facts not out of your imaginations! until ther are no facts in the news against the girl ,, i belive its rape.so far wala pa. well thats just my oppinion.

Then abi nako naa nay MEDICO LEGAL and REPORTS of her CREDENTIAL ? Opinion ra man lage na tanan nimo bai . tsk tsk tsk .....

[josmar]

there must be a"due process" first...
and let the Court(s) gives justice to everyone who are concern...

[DebutsAndIDos]

I agree.

There should be due process couple with full media disclosure to ensure that justice will be served either to or in behalf of the accused.

[mariaa]

ewppssss ... boys and girls ... remember the only "TRUTH" we have are the things that we saw on the T.V. unless somebody on this forum ... has one solid evidence ... but anywayz .... bak to the topic ... yes its possible that US can and will flexes its muscles .. whatever their means ... trends have shown that they really made any forms of settlement ...

[JoRed]

Subic Rape Stirs Echoes of U.S. Military Atrocities in Mindanao

The rape case is one of the many atrocities committed by US troops in the conduct of joint US-RP exercises.Â* We recall the incident in Manarapan, Carmen, North Cotabato in mid-2004, where one elderly woman, fearing that a military operation was underway, died of a heart attack in the panic that followed the arrival of US reconnaissance troops in two helicopters and trucks.

BY INITIATIVES FOR PEACE IN MINDANAO
Posted by Bulatlat

While there is public outcry for justice for the 22-year-old woman from Zamboanga who was raped by six US Marines in Subic, InPeace Mindanao likewise calls for the immediate pull-out of US troops in Mindanao and the abrogation of the Visiting Forces Agreement (VFA) and the Mutual Defense Treaty.

The rape case is one of the many atrocities committed by US troops in the conduct of joint US-RP exercises.Â* We recall the incident in Manarapan, Carmen, North Cotabato in mid-2004, where one elderly woman, fearing that a military operation was underway, died of a heart attack in the panic that followed the arrival of US reconnaissance troops in two helicopters and trucks.Â* Until now, no action has been made by either the US or Philippine government to investigate this incident and indemnify the victim's family.

We also recall the case of Buyongbuyong Isnijal of Tuburan, Basilan in July 25, 2002 who was shot by a US soldier during a raid of his village in the course of the Balikatan exercises.Â* The AFP continues to cover up a clear case of frustrated murder by US soldiers by claiming that Isnijal is an Abu Sayyaf member although he was actually shot when he was defenseless at his home in full view of his family.

These recent incidents, not to mention the countless abuses in the course of the US military bases' stay in Olongapo and Angeles, give credence to the call to stop the US-led "war on terror" supported by the Arroyo government and to scrap the lopsided VFA and MDT.Â* US troops, who arrogate upon themselves the role of "countering terrorism," are in fact the ones sowing terror, indignity and violence to our people and communities where these exercises are held.

The rape incident brings to mind the many incidences of sexual violence committed by US soldiers during the US Bases' stay. As the Gabriela organization had reported, there were 82 cases of sexual abuses against women and 15 cases against children perpetrated by US soldiers before the US Bases Agreement was terminated in September 1991.

The incident also echoes rape cases in US military installations in other countries particularly that of a 12-year-old girl by three US soldiers stationed in the American bases of Okinawa, Japan in 1996.Â* The rape and the many other indignities suffered by Japanese peasants in Okinawa have made the US bases there very unpopular and are poised to be booted out.

With the Subic rape disclosure, we are emboldened to vigorously oppose any move by the Philippine and Japanese governments to effect the transfer of the Okinawa Bases to Mindanao as reported by the Japanese press early this year.Â* (Talks between Philippine and Japanese defense officials reportedly took place in February 9 this year. A "consultative meeting" between US and Japanese defense and foreign officials also reportedly began February 19 in Washington to hammer out a new security pact which involves transferring US forces from Okinawa and "making them mobile and near 'security hotspots' and anti-terrorist operations."Â* This, even as there already have been media reports of US construction of a naval base in G'lan, Sarangani Province.)

The Arroyo government is to be made accountable for its impending total surrender of jurisdiction over the criminal US soldiers in the Subic rape case. By its inactions over reported US troops' atrocities in the past, and by flaunting its support to the Bush-led "anti-terror" war, this government has given tacit approval to the impunity of US troops in violating our domestic laws.Â* The fact that it has left the handling of this case to the Department of Foreign Affairs indicates that Malacañang does not want to ruffle American feathers, much less exercise jurisdiction over this outrageous crime.

While it has demonstrated its utter lack of adherence to national sovereignty and its apathy to the cries of the victims of US military atrocities, the Arroyo government is demanded by our people and our Constitution to uphold justice, defend our national dignity and stand by our sovereignty.Â*

We do not want another incident of a Filipina being raped, or a farmer being shot, or the elderly being seized with fear. Again, we reiterate our call to abrogate the VFA and the MDT, and pull out US troops in Mindanao, the rest of the country and elsewhere. We also demand for justice through the immediate prosecution of US soldiers as well as the indemnification of all victims of violations committed by US troops in the Philippines.

As a group advocating a just peace in Mindanao, we pledge to resist the reign of US militarism in our island, in our country, and in the rest of the world. Posted by Bulatlat