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    Lightbulb Desktop PC not working. Here's the story


    Update November 23:
    1. I bought a True-Rated Supply (Corsair VS 450) & (Brand-new AVR). Both motherboards did NOT display.
    2. ASUS Led Light is ON but NO display.
    3. The ASUS board & ECS board is with boss albert (butitoy) for diagnosis.
    Quote Originally Posted by butitoy View Post
    on ECS + i3 2100 + my 4GB RAM stick

    have just finished installing windows 7 ulti64 now

    the verdict 1 : Failing RAM module < the one sent here >
    the verdict 2 : Failing CMOS battery

    will work again on the other one later

    using old school PS2 KB and Mouse

    and FSP500w
    Update Today, November 19: Ang ECS motherboard kay working well. Wa ko kahibaw wen ni mamatay napud. Dli cya mo detect ang sa akong video cards so naa problem sa PCI-E slot. Ang ASUS board, not working na cya. mo siga ang led light if e on ang PSU pero dli mo display nor mo on ang numlock sa keyboard to verify.

    Hello ISTORYANS. Good morning!

    Mangayo unta ko ug tabang ninyo karon kay nag antos ug ugtas nakog cgeg diagnose ani nga problema saona pa. At first, nag tuo ko nga human error ra akong nabuhat kay tungod o tingali naa koy kuwang ug buhat or wala na nabuhat.

    Ang sitwasyon karon kay ang PC dli na mo display...

    Mao ni specs sa PC

    G620
    Asus P8H61-M LX3 (g update ang BIOS mga October 20, ni work man ang PC)
    Ramaxel 4GB 1600 memory
    Sparkle GT630 / Sapphire 7750
    500 HDD
    Generic Case
    Generic Supply 600w

    Now here's the story:

    Ako ning gi palit ang 2nd hand nga CPU unit sa akong miga last October 13 . At first, the CPU was really just okay. Way issue kong nakita or whatsoever. After 2 weeks (hapit nato mahuman ang buwan), ang CPU dli na mo display. Naa man to gubot mi na encounter saona (kay naa koy internet cafe) and nag tuo kog na tarog or whatsoever. So nag basic troubleshooting ko. Akong gi disassemble tanan daun akong gi assemble balik ang proc, mobo, ram ug supply (silbe nag paguwas ang mga periphirals) mga pila ka oras nakog cgeg diagnose, wala jud cya mo display. Ni give up nalang ko nga ako nalang cla gi disassemble tanan. After 2 days, akong gi assemble ug balik ang mga periphirals, wa gale nako gi troubleshoot2x kay kapoy na. After pag assemble sa tanan, namasin kog andar sa unit ug milagro ni andar cya ug ni display jud cya, as in makakita na jud kos BIOS niya. Dako-as ngisi nako ug naka realize ko human error ra akong gi buhat earlier.

    Ang unit nag work cya for pila ka days. A week before ani nga problem, nag problema napud ko kay ang date ug time dli na mao. So I realize nga ilisonun rag CMOS battery. Mao to ni palit kog bag-o and after ni okay na cya, wa na issue sa date and time.

    Days after napud, ang date ug time ni balik napud. Pastilan nag labad na jud akong ulo ngano jud! Maong ako nalang gi reformat ang PC jud para makita. Pag reformat, ni okay na pud. Adlaw-adlaw cgeg observe, wa najud ning balik.

    Daun ghapon (November 17, Monday morning) Ni balita lang akong igsoon nga ang PC wa napud ning display. Hours before ning report akong igsoon, ni gamit paman kos PC and okay raman cya.

    And karon, wala na nako ma sulbad ang problema. Hantod karong orasa cge ghapon kog sulbad ani kay sayangan dli ma dagan ang PC.

    Mao ni akong mga pangutana.

    1. Kinsa may akong i pasangil ani? ang processor? or ang board?
    2. Kung motherboard, asa part sa board ang nay issue. Naay koy duha ka motherboard ug ang duha dli jud mo display. but before nag basic troubleshooting kos duha, ning work man cla.
    3. Ingon sad sa usa (akong kaila), ang motherboard daw nag short. Pero kung nag short, nganong ni dagan man cya after several weeks nga wa g gamit?

    I already run out of ideas. So murag nag need na jud kog tabang ane!

    Salamat kaayo!

    Love,
    Ayban
    Last edited by stufguy; 11-23-2014 at 11:33 AM.

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    You forgot you are using a Generic Power Supply.

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    Lisod epoint out kung unsay culprit sa emung issue bro, since 2ndhand man ang emu system unit (wa jud ky idea kung unsay history sa emu unit, either mao nay rason mao gbaligya sa emuha ky lage tukar2x and display)

    Back to the topic, eIsolate emu problema bro, like used good working psu(if u need to buy good one then go for it), 2nd, u said y display meaning gadagan ra emu mobo ani but no display from montor? Or nasuwayan na nimo on w/out ur GPU? Morespond raba ang light sa emu kboard by pressing num/caps lock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wylliexhan View Post
    You forgot you are using a Generic Power Supply.
    Working ang supply boss, besides I tested the supply for proc mobo and ram only (NO VC, HDD etc) but still no display. If assume nato ang PSU moy problem, how come mo display man cya earlier that time? and I'm testing it right now, milagro napud ni on napud ang usa ka board (ECS board)

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisangel View Post
    Lisod epoint out kung unsay culprit sa emung issue bro, since 2ndhand man ang emu system unit (wa jud ky idea kung unsay history sa emu unit, either mao nay rason mao gbaligya sa emuha ky lage tukar2x and display)

    Back to the topic, eIsolate emu problema bro, like used good working psu(if u need to buy good one then go for it), 2nd, u said y display meaning gadagan ra emu mobo ani but no display from montor? Or nasuwayan na nimo on w/out ur GPU? Morespond raba ang light sa emu kboard by pressing num/caps lock?
    babae man ang tagiya ani and I know her a lot. The CPU she sold to me, akoy nag suggest sa specs ani saona for her online ESL and g gamit ra ang unit for net usage ra.

    mangita nalang pud kog true-rated PSU ane since mao juy ang backbone sa CPU. slamat sa thought but dli ko kaau makapasangil sa PSU bisag generic kay nag basic troubleshoot man ko ron, milagro kay ni gana nag ECS board kay ingon pud mawala ra pud. feel pud nako pud PSU, cguru sa pins or whatsoever.
    Last edited by stufguy; 11-19-2014 at 03:57 AM.

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    ok let us say your PSU is good. tigTurn on nimo sa UniT morespond ra ba ang light sa keyboard by pressing caps/num lock or wala(meaning nay something problema sa board)? and btw, have u tried to run the windows memory diagnostic ky I have a doubt na basi naa say problema ang memory ani.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisangel View Post
    ok let us say your PSU is good. tigTurn on nimo sa UniT morespond ra ba ang light sa keyboard by pressing caps/num lock or wala(meaning nay something problema sa board)? and btw, have u tried to run the windows memory diagnostic ky I have a doubt na basi naa say problema ang memory ani.
    sa karon na situation, ang ECS board, nag work na.. I'm currently on Windows na but ang Asus board, dli ghapon mo detect. akong gi try ang memory modules sa laing PC, works fine. no issues or whatever.

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    mobo na siguro na. d gihapon mu display even if gawas sa case? check daw if naa mga taya, etc sa mobo. do visual inspection.

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    I understand your PSU is working perfectly and I didn't say nga your PSU is defective, i'm just saying that you're using a Generic Power Supply that could also affect lot of factors including abnormal power output to your system w/c causes damage to your computer, using a Generic Power Supply is not safe and reliable. Let's say, it might not be the main issue or causes the problem but using a branded PSU compared to Generic PSU is a lot different since they are lack build quality or quality assurance.

    As they said, if a CPU is the brain of your computer, then a power supply unit has got to be the heart. A human heart draws oxygenated blood from the lungs and pumps to the rest of the body; A power supply draws the alternating current from the wall socket, converts it into direct current and delivers it to the rest of the computer. So if the PSU is not constantly drawing the right power to the system, maybe that's the cause of the issue why it's happening like that maybe naa jd problema sa imong PSU or sa imo jd Motherboard.

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    that PSU and that RAM stick

    change both

    the worst a power fluctuation can kill is your processor

    it happened to my client

    a lame PCQB issued brandnew daw iMaster5000 killed his mobo | RAM | VC and Procie

    nowadays, dili kaayo mahalon or dili na kaayo stiff ang presyo na PhP1.5K - 2K for a good PSU

    cause it will give you a peace of mind.

    NOT TO USE : what the HEC! <raptor > it's a fireworks| iMaster < maayo pa ang trendsonic ani >

    if only we can buy OEM PSUs here like ACBell and LiteON IT

    ECS + Generic PSU is a very bad equation..but add a stable PSU and that E, si S na sir? will RAN longer than expected < bati kaayo ug power filtering ang low end or entrylevel for the masses versions >
    Last edited by butitoy; 11-19-2014 at 07:00 AM.

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    > try using other AVR (basin erratic na ang voltage output, check lng sd basin sa 110v nasaksak kasuway ko ani)
    > try changing the PSU for validation lng

    - dako factor ang mga power supply, sensitive ang mobo ani and will turn-off if erratic/abnormal ang voltage sa PSU to protect the board.


    proc - gahi na gugb-on
    ram - tested

    avr -?
    psu -?

    mobo -?
    Last edited by lowel; 11-19-2014 at 07:15 AM.

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