Content Protection on New Intel Processors :(

[poldopunk]

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Intel Beefs Up CPUs With Graphics Power — and Content Protection | Gadget Lab | Wired.com

The feature will prevent playback or copying of HD video content through insecure channels within a PC. For example, video can be delivered to a secured HDMI port, but not over an unsecured PCI bus. It also provides a mechanism for online content providers to recognize Intel Insider computers, and deliver copy-protected content only to them.

I don't know what to say. It's going to get hacked though *insert HDCP pun here* at the cost of some performance losses. AMD is looking good as an upgrade. :/

[HanzoHattori]

mao na ni ron tsk tsk tsk

[personalmgt]

Hello HDCP. Rise from your grave, and then go back again :P

[P0w3rM0v3]

This won't last long. If there's anything we learned from the internet is that you cannot stop piracy and content sharing.

[Dondon]

This won't last long. If there's anything we learned from the internet is that you cannot stop piracy and content sharing.

Agree kaayo ko ani bro.

[personalmgt]

This really has nothing serious in our pirating.

I commented here yesterday and slept, then I remembered my hangover with HDCP.

Like what happened to HDCP, this "security" that they're telling us only applies on secure HDMI outputs. We can rip DVDs and blurays, sure. But ripping does not give us a 1:1 quality on the ripped video, but its definitely close. There is a difference but too little for us to notice. The REAL 1:1 is when you tap into the HDMI output and use an external device to record the signals there, which is not doable with any amateur way of copying.

A scenario here of what Intel wants to stop is something similar to DVR-to-DVR copying. Remember copying VHSs? It's like this, the source DVR will play the content but with HDCPs existence, the other DVR will receive the data but it cannot encode it because its encrypted by the HDCP, thus preventing you from doing a DVR-to-DVR copying. Sayon man to sauna because DVRs use analog signals and copying VHSs will give you a 1:1 quality. But now we're using digital signals, and the complications arise.

Now, even with the leaked HDCP key, and EVEN if you managed to copy everything in the HDMI ouput, quality is comparable to a ripped copy. But let's put it this way, making copies from the HDMI outputs are like FLAC Lossless audio files with ripped videos being MP3 320kbps audio files. You do know the difference between the two, right?

[P0w3rM0v3]

^^ lossless vs compression

[personalmgt]

Exactly.

Now will you please excuse me, I think this youtube video is obligatory

YouTube - Nothing to see here

RIP Leslie Nielsen

[poldopunk]

i know it will be hacked but its the politics in it that i don't like. :/

[HanzoHattori]

from Overclock.net - Sandy Bridge Intel Insider/ Killswitch Technology Clarification - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net

As I was reading the prosperousness info in "Warning: Sandy Bridge contains hardware level DRM Handicap and Killswitch!" threat by BigCactus, I wished to clarify the Intel Killswitch and Insider technologies so that people get real info and then decide what they think about these (not the other way around which seemed to be the trend in that thread).

Update: New info from Intel Customer Service (see end of post).

Intel Killswitch (This feature is only available in some commercial laptop processors) - Contact your laptop manufacturer for more information #

[This is basically a] remote switch [that] can disable the Intel Sandy Bridge processor if it is ever lost or stolen.
So unless someone is a computer thief and does that for a living, this should not affect anyone at all.

Intel simply offers this to any SB owner as a protection in case their PC gets stolen. It is also worth mentioning that the "Killswitch" does not kill your processor but only disables it. It can easily be reversed, so basically, it is an added level of protection for everyone.

[The reason for the addition of this feature] was that laptop theft costs $5.4 billion each year for U.S, businesses. This equals some 12,000 laptops disappearing every week from U.S. airports and a laptop being stolen every 53 seconds.
I don't know why anyone would not like this added feature whose sole purpose is to protect your processor and thus your investment.

Intel Insider (This feature will be available only if your motherboard supports the Intel HD graphics and when using this feature you are using your Intel processor's Integrated Graphics) Requires a H67 motherboard ##

This feature does not affect any of the files of your computer. It is simply there to allow hardware protected streaming of specific data to your computer.

Intel Insider technology ... [is] a way of convincing Hollywood to release films sooner and in high definition without worrying about piracy — it would mean that only those who use Intel's very latest Sandy Bridge CPUs would be able to stream movies.
Intel Insider will not even remotely affect anything else, so all you Pirates can feel safe ripping thousands of HD movies/DVDs/BluRays/games since Intel Insider is only used when streaming videos from specific locations that require it.

Here's Intel's own clarification on this technology and its purpose;

There seem to be a some people commenting who disagree with the very premise of DRM and content protection on a philosophical level. Those those people I say that there is no way this technology is being forced upon you - if you don’t want to use the Insider feature, there is no need to, just avoid the services that use it. It does not affect your own personal content in any way.
So basically, all of us movie aficionados can hope for sooner releases of DVDs, while people who would not use this new technology will have to wait for good ol' DVD and BluRay releases (which will probably be scheduled later than these "Intel Insider" releases).

And all that Intel Insider does is allow for a new service that was never here before and will not affect anything else or any other file.

ONCE AGAIN, Intel Insider is only used with "CinemaNow," "WBShop" (and perhaps more similar programs to come), it does not have any other uses and does not intervene with any other data on your PC.

Here's Intel's 2nd update on the Insider technology;

Intel Insider will not stop you from playing, manipulating or ripping optical media such as a DVD or Blu-ray disk (but those technologies have separate existing safeguards). Intel Insider does not affect P2P services.

Discussion with Intel Customer Service:

Allan: Hello. Thank you for using the Intel Customer Support chat service. We are glad to be of service. How can I help you today?
Born2bwild: Hello, I want to buy a new Intel i7 processor of the 2nd generation...
Allan: yes
Born2bwild: and I was wondering which model incorporate the Killswitch?
Allan: Please wait for 2 minutes and I will check your concern. Thank you.
Born2bwild: Of course.
Allan: Thanks for waiting
Allan: if this is a desktop processor, then there is no anti-thief technology for the moment, only the mobile processor will come with that feature
Born2bwild: Okay.
Allan: you also need to check the specifications for the computer itself as this features may come blocked by the system manufacturer.
Born2bwild: Okay. Thank you for your time.
Allan: you're welcome.

Victor: Hello. Thank you for using the Intel Customer Support chat service. We are glad to be of service. How can I help you today?
Born2bwild: Hello
Born2bwild: I have read Intel's site about the Insider feature, and there seems to be no distinct clarification of the issue.
Born2bwild: If I want to assemble a system myself, with a new i7 (2nd gen processor) - I will not use the Intel HD integrated graphics - will I be able to use Insider when it becomes available?
Victor: The Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 Processors don't have an integrated graphics controller so you always need to use a video card.
Born2bwild: Well I am referring to the 2nd generation of i7s (such as the i7 2600k)
Victor: You will be required to use the on board graphics to use this feature.
Born2bwild: So in the case of an i7 2600k (in a motherboard that will not support the Intel HD graphics) with a discrete graphics card this feature will be unavailable?
Victor: correct.
Born2bwild: Okay. Thank you for your time.

Main source; Is Intel Insider Code for DRM in Sandy Bridge? | PCMag.com
and; http://blogs.intel.com/technology/20...(intel+insider)
and; http://www.legionhardware.com/articl..._bridge,2.html