Marvel versus DC

[nealotol]

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nindot jud ang marvel.. lots of character..

[diatabz]

Spectre? Just bring out Franklin Richards with the Spear of Destiny. God wouldn't kill a kid right? Right?

Lol seriously, battledome threads like this never get anywhere. If you were to judge both universes by omnipotents alone, both the Presence and the One-Above-All would just cancel each other out. Same goes for Spectre and the Living Tribunal. (This is still debatable because I think Morningstar and the Great Evil Beast are stronger than Spectre)

The best thing you could do is pair two characters with each other, instead of just an all out match-up between the two universes. You can place rules, plot devices etc. to make things more realistic.

[gatsby]

Spectre? Just bring out Franklin Richards with the Spear of Destiny. God wouldn't kill a kid right? Right?

Lol seriously, battledome threads like this never get anywhere. If you were to judge both universes by omnipotents alone, both the Presence and the One-Above-All would just cancel each other out. Same goes for Spectre and the Living Tribunal. (This is still debatable because I think Morningstar and the Great Evil Beast are stronger than Spectre)

The best thing you could do is pair two characters with each other, instead of just an all out match-up between the two universes. You can place rules, plot devices etc. to make things more realistic.

hehehe, i never thought of that... thanks for bringing up Franklin Richards...

akoa raman bro is once ma versus na sya dili na sya ibalik like The Presence and The One Above All... tapos si Spectre i dont know if he can match Living Tribunal coz basing sa iya powers dili man sya omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient... he (Spectre) is only omnipotent with the dictates of The Presence only tapos he needs a human host....

that's what we are doing like:

Thor versus Superman
Rogue versus Wonder Woman
Batman versus Iron Man (as suggested by P-Chan)
.................... and the rest will come next, new pa ang thread so it will go a long way.

if they're only mutants of course ang place of battle is sa Earth since most mutants can't breath outside Earth, and pag battle na gani - diretso na dayun hand-to-hand combat or using their powers, no time na na mag imbento pa ug devices or gadgets kung unsa naa sa ila karun mao nana.

anyone can suggest to match characters from Marvel to DC, once nagamit na ang character dili na pwede ibalik... but of course with the approval of the majority. di man pwede i match nimo si Apocalypse ni Batman, hehehe...

so let's bring it on....

[gatsby]

powers or information about Spectre:

Spectre (comics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wapedia - Wiki: Spectre (comics)
Spectre (comics) | Ask.com Encyclopedia

Ask.com is a reliable site NOT only for DC characters or Marvel Characters but other information from A to Z...

all the sites above have references and external links going to DC site, so its not that Wikipedia, Wapedia, Ask.com are making these up. And, again, I BELIEVE DC editors wont just sit reading wrong information about their characters in a big site such as Wikipedia and Ask.com...

More information I got from Comicvine.com about Spectre:

The Spectre is one of the most powerful magical entity in the DC creation, capable of battling with such universal foes like the Anti-Monitor and Parallax. While the Spectre's power unchecked in nearly unlimited and is capable of shattering universes, he is generally limited by the Presence to a lower level of power to prevent the power from corrupting him
----- still under control of the Presence (according to Comicvine.com) or dictates of the Presence as what Wikipedia mentioned (Divine mystical enhancements granting virtual omnipotence, although the true scope ranges from the dictates of the Presence)....

since he is only one of the most powerful entity NOT the most powerful of DC, it means he is no match of Living Tribunal.... Living Tribunal possesses virtually unlimited power and near-absolute control over the Marvel Multiverse. "Near absolute" because there is One-Above-All which is equivalent to the Presence...

Weakness of Spectre - The Spectre can be injured or slain by sufficient force of magic--such as the Spear of Destiny. When the human host dies, the current Spectre will be no more, and the human spirit and the Divine Wrath will separate.

SOURCE: Spectre (comic book character)



it means naa syay weakness when the human host dies, and can be injured or slain by sufficient force of magic such as Spear of Destiny --- it says "such as" not ONLY Spear of Destiny...

[Blackbeard]

mao ba? try to check on this:

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...l101981-12.jpg
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...l101981-13.jpg

asay human form ni Thor diha? tell me daw.... ur making me laugh...

lol abi nako expert ka bahin kang Thor? tanawa nang tawo na ni-reach sa iyang cane. mao na siya si Thor sa iyang human na form.

ga costume diay si Thor bisag human form? even si Vision iya gi sumbang lang?

lol Vision. he's not trying to fight Rogue, but restrain her just like Thor.

naa na sab na imong he (Thor) never fought her seriously in that scan I posted, is it an excuse?

wala mn gani sila nagaway. gi-absorb ni Rogue ang iyang powers/strength when he grabbed her and did nothing. lol. sabta ra gud ang imong gitanaw.

i know wala man jud napildi si Thor diha pero ako point lang is Rogue can even touch the Thunder god - Thor how much more Wonder Woman, Thor is a god, na absorb gani ni Rogue, how much more and Amazon princess ra...

oh my lol. wa pa gihapon ka nahuman ana? naa ra o, ky murag dili mn jud ka mobasa.

well, I'll concede the point of her absorbing magic

bottom panel.

that still doesn't help her chances since Wonder Woman has the advantage in speed, strength etc. even if Rogue is fully naked(yeah!), Wonder Woman can just kick her or use her weapons/equipment against her. no skin to skin contact(though it'd be nice to see it happen, if you get my drift hehe).

previous page pa na, and you utterly missed it. or you just don't understand the word "concede"? Google it.

and again, Rogue absorbed some of Magus power also - a cosmic being... sige ko balik balik ani... hahhaahah...

you kept on repeating it yeah, why?

now mo tuo naka na si Rogue maka absorb ug magic?

yeah, you know why I'm laughing, right?

Thor and Magus as example? if no pa gani, i dont know nalang unsa ka gahe imong ulo, or its an excuse arun matabunan nimo si Wonder Woman. tuo man kaha kag comics a lot so it was posted above, katawa ko if di paka mo tuo.

2funny:

yeah, I believed after I myself looked into it. lol sheesh I have to help you to look for proof for your own characters. come on.

did i say beat? i just said she fought with Gladiator and she still stand... try to check videos or even sa comics kay daghan man jud kag comics about Phoenex Saga.

lol yeah, the fight wasn't a hard fought fight at all.

dili diay ni sila Avengers? 2-3 characters dili diay matawag na Avengers? Hawk Eye was there also...

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...l101981-13.jpg

lol Hawkeye is a street leveler. Thor was just grabbing Rogue and doing nothing, kinda foolish.

kani dili ni sila Avengers:

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would have been impressive if it was Hulkbuster Iron Man, but HBIM would have wiped the floor with Rogue. heh.

you want more?

oh yeah, still not seeing how Rogue has a chance against Wonder Woman.

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...gers401_13.jpg
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Thor - thunder god was impressed about Rogue's punch....

and he wasn't even hurt lol. these scans are from KMC is it? yeah, already seen all of them.

okay, i know di man jud ka papildi kay Wonder Woman, you always insist na Rogue cant touch Wonder Woman. you even say how can Rogue touch Wonder Woman? well simple, you just ignore all the links or proofs ako gipa kita, you want to see it again?

YouTube - (132) Wonder Woman, Kira (Super Girl) and Barda ryona [HD]
YouTube - Wonder Woman Beaten (Animated Movie)
YouTube - Wonder Woman Vs Justice League

I'm not ignoring them kiddo, however like I said, it's differing sources. I'm strictly sticking with comics, while you jump around using the weak versions of Wonder Woman to help your argument.

ingun ana pag touch ni Rogue, same sa pag touch sa mga weaker villains kay Diana, and now pleae stop saying Rogue cant touch Diana, LOL... kita ka how the big woman beat Wonder Woman? i thought WW is sooooo fast why is it ma kulata lagi sya? how come those weaker villains could stand up a chance on WW, not in seconds but minutes and they didnt die ? even si Cheetah can hurt (slightly/strongly) WW, d point is ma hurt sya omg... LOL...how will Rogue touch Wonder Woman? same as how Roulette a human touched Wonder Woman... and please dont ignore those post because it was copyrighted from DC, not from WIKI, not from a forum site, but a series or a movie copyrighted from DC... so now tell me if Rogue can touch Wonder Woman? i hope you wont say again NO, because it will be funny this time... mo una nalang ko ug katawa ha, hahahahahah...

yeah, ignoring this one since you're talking about the cartoons, and I have been talking all about the comic versions of both characters. also both cartoon versions of the characters btw(Rogue and WW) are weak.

i still have an issue about how you criticized Wikipedia as unreliable and outdated. naka balo ba ka bro kanus-a nagstart ang Wiki? nakabalo baka bro when gi copyright ang Justice League na series sa TV? which is more recent? kabalo ka kanus-a sab nabuhat or na copyright and comics? well of course ang TV and Wikipedia. bro, karun panahuna dili na time sa comics its all TV, DVD, Internet... naa nay mga DVD mapalit, naay Internet to search on topics even characters sa DC and Marvel... karun dili panahon sa comics, it was way back when you sit down and rent a comics for 1 peso and read Darna and Captain Barbel if you are rich you can buy comics of Marvel or DC - that was way way way back before. lahi na ang panahon karun bro.... ayaw na ug stick sa old times, dont stick too much on comics coz naay mas updated - TV, Movies, Internet.... how old naba ang mga comics gi copyright bro? ga produce pa ba sila karun atu? wala paka ka move on sa comics Era, please update yourself... now tell me kinsay OUTDATED and UNRELIABLE? i know the answer, eng eng eng.... LOL....

sigh, still don't get it huh? comics > wiki. and I'm basing my information on the comics, which is more reliable because it's detailed while wiki just lays out the basic information about the powers of the characters. basic information, do you get that?

and please dont ignore Justice League sa TV because DC mismo nagbuhat ana, take note its more current or latest than comics, FYI lng... im not saying ignore or set aside comics BUT as i always say comics is not the only source kay karaan nana sya... sa comics namatay si Superman, until nabuhi, until nahimong Justice League sa TV series... katawa lng ko nimo how you criticize Internet and TV na mas updated pa na sila kaysa sa comics Era... hope you get my point.... weaker sa TV, stronger sa comics BUT still which is recent? be UPDATED bro... peace!

this is most laughable. JLU has already ended(go google it, wikipedia actually has this info correctly). the comics are still going and have been since the 30's lol. so yeah, I'm continuing my streak of being utterly right, and you utterly knowing absolutely nothing of what you're talking about.
the JLU episodes you see on TV are re-runs.

if you will still insist about comics bla bla bla, magkatawa na jud ko...... move on from comics Era, Internet world na karun bro... and how can you criticize Internet when in fact you are researching DC characters from the Internet and posting scan photos using the Internet, right? you dont have your own comics photos na gi scan? just asking... hehe..

I think you're grasping at straws now because you're finding it hard to counter my points. my sources are the comic book pages which come directly from DC and Marvel, that have been conveniently posted in the internet. that's all I have to say. oh, and you're losing. lol.

they dont care? or maybe you just cant accept that DC agreed with Wikipedia... if they are wrong (Wiki), i told you to correct me and post reliable links from DC site not from a fan made site or a forum, then ill shut my mouth about Spectre... but did Spectre die? hehehe....

nope. otherwise the wiki articles would be very very long. longer than the science articles.
I posted pages from the comic books which are the most reliable source of information.

and Spectre cannot die, unless the Presence wills it so.

stronger or not still Rogue has a unique power that makes her advantage of Wonder Woman.. Thor is stronger and more powerful than Wonder Woman, even Magus pero na absorb ni Rogue, think about it...

the Thor > Wonder Woman is arguable. in fact, it's probably the best and fair match up for the two. though I could see Thor winning very barely(though it could go either way) barring Wonder Woman doesn't use the Godwave which is an instant win power.
and absorption powers again, lol I've already said my piece on this.

abilities of Sunfire (Wiki)
* Flight
* Plasma blasts
* Ability to view infrared
* Radiation immunity

ooookay.

As Horsemen of Famine:

* Ability to emit hunger-inducing light

lol what a funny power to have.

Shiro also seems to be quite an accomplished martial artist. He has displayed impressive hand to hand skills on several occasions and stated that he didn't need to employ his powers in order to defeat Hand ninjas. He is trained in karate, judo, budo (Japanese Samurai swordsmanship), and kendo. He is also an expert in the combat use of his superhuman powers.

wow.

FROM Marvel (dont tell me OUTDATED and UNRELIABLE japon ang Marvel ha, hehe)

oh? Marvel or wikipedia? links if you don't mind.

Sunfire can biochemically ionize matter and convert it into the super-heated plasma state of matter, generating temperatures of about 1,000,000º Fahrenheit which he most often releases as force blasts from his hands. Sunfire can recharge and enhance his stored power by absorbing both solar and electromagnetic energy. He can also view his surroundings in the infrared spectrum. Sunfire can create super-heated air currents which enable him to fly while leaving a trail of flame behind him. Sunfire also generates an invisible field of psionic energy which protects him from the heat and radiation generated by his own powers, as well as from outside sources. The field also shields him from air friction and the light generated by his plasma, as well as lending a certain level of protection from kinetic impact.

wow

Sunfire is well versed in the martial arts of karate and kendo, as well as the art of bushido, the history and customs of the samurai class.

woooow

and you stressed again how can Rogue touch Wonder Woman, should i post the videos again? or you need photos that Wonder Wonder na touched sa mga weaker villains even na hurt sya? tell me lang, ill give it to you.

oh it has certainly happened, on account that WW holds back or is ambushed in places you'd least expect(like a hospital full of sick people), but if it's in a battlefield, hehehe Rogue won't even see Diana coming.

I already posted those pics of her breaking the speed force barrier, and owning Evil Flash and Zoom both of which move at speeds faster than the speed of light. so I don't feel that I need to post them again here, you can look them up in the previous post if you missed them.

what? again, what? is the Tv series, movies, and even DC site different from comics? its a matter of updating the characters dude... its about updating the current storyline... how can you say different from the universe of the comics when it is from DC... hahahahaha.... so ang uncanny xmen different sab sa TV and comics? different sab sa Marvel site? weird ahhh... again, update yourself na bro... hehehehe...

the comics and the TV show are different. although there is a JLU comic book(already over), it's from a separate universe from the mainstream DCU. your lack of knowledge about the workings of the comic book industry is really hurting you.

anyway, just like how the X-Men cartoons and other Marvel cartoons are a separate universe from the comics. they are all from the same company, but they are not from the same medium.

same rana ani with a different power lang kay teleportation, i guess mas paspas pa gani ang teleportation.

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3479/rogpowhm7em.jpg

a power Rogue no longer has. besides, for someone as experienced as Wonder Woman, teleportation would only work once. if Rogue does manage to get a good hold of her though, unlike Thor who basically did nothing and screamed like a girl, Diana would attack her and that will be that for Rogue.

or maybe, Rogue uses her 7th sense she got from Ms.Marvel... you know the 7th sense?

another power she no longer possesses. even Ms. Marvel no longer has that power.

One of Ms. Marvel's original powers was a precognitive sense, called her "seventh sense," which allowed her to subconsciously recognize danger before it occurred (murag Spiderman, right?)... Her seventh sense also allowed her to subconsciously predict an opponent's attacks before they made them, greatly enhancing her fighting and tactical prowess in battle. <---- and dont ignore that....

P-chan already brought this up, but I suppose she knew too that both Rogue and Ms. Marvel no longer have this power since she didn't bring it up again.

it was fast actually but it wasnt Wonder Woman's speed catches Jesse but it was her lasso, of course mas paspas ang lasso kaysa sa character, mas mag una man jud ang lasso if she will throw it... and take note naguyod lng si Wonder Woman she did not even touch Jesse... and now i know what ur thinking, how will Rogue touch Wonder Woman? again and again, just like the old weaker villains, bla bla bla, hehehehe...

Wonder Woman ran into the speed force, and lassoed Jessie.

okay, i will move on with Rogue versus Wonder Woman kay di ta maghuman ani and besides daghan pa sab characters i match, agree?

concession accepted.

[Blackbeard]

lets move to Superman versus Thor....

nice photos for Superman you posted. thanks for that..

yeah, I just made you waste your time by posting what you wrote below. did you actually read it or just glossed over those pictures?

getting sandwiched between New Genesis and Apokolips

absorbing energies that could wipe out half the galaxy.

now, its time for Thor - Thunder god, son of Odin and Earth goddess Gaea:

first Thor versus Gladiator:

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line from Gladiator - "I did my best BUT he is too strong".... <--- a cosmic being, leader of Imperial Guards, and i know you know what Gladiator is capable of.

clue about Gladiator's powers:

(Marvel)
Whilst the uppermost limit of his strength is unknown,
Being able to move whole planets. In addition to his strength, Gladiator is virtually invulnerable to the point where he has survived an explosion of nearly nova force completely unharmed. He is, however, vulnerable to certain unspecified wavelengths of radiation.

Gladiator can fly at speeds rivaling those of starships, and can achieve faster-than-light speeds in hyperspace.
Gladiator is also able to draw in large amounts of air and then expel it all to create a gale force wind. Gladiator can also project intense beams of heat from his eyes that can reach temperatures comparable to those produced by stars, as well as microscopic vision that lets him see beyond the sub-atomic barrier.

(WIKI)
Gladiator possesses a number of superhuman capabilities as a result of his unique alien physiology including superhuman strength (capable of shattering a planet),superhuman speed, stamina and durability (capable of withstanding an explosion equivalent to a supernova); reflexes; heat vision (stated as "hotter than a star"); frost breath and is capable of warp speed flight (measured as "a hundred times the speed of light").

lol Glads and his confidence issues. he's actually more stronger and faster than Thor(he is a Superman clone afterall).

Next is Ego

- the living planet, ill post scanned photos ha kay nahan man jud ka ana.. take note, Ego is not only a planet but a living planet with enormous powers, kung unsa sya ka dako ana sab ka dako iya power, imagine a planet with a life force and powers? di nalang nko i post iya powers coz i know u know how powerful Ego is... look what Thor did to him:



http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8...eatsego5fr.jpg

well, Thor's magic is quite strong. Superman would have just used his fist and destroyed Ego, though(like what Glads did, without the destroying part). his punches that can destroy planets.

Next...... Mephisto...

(WIKI)
Mephisto is an extremely powerful immortal demonic entity possessing magical powers and abilities gained by manipulation of the forces of magic. Mephisto is capable of using his power for a variety of uses, including superhuman strength, shape and size shifting, projecting illusions, manipulating memories, altering time, and is highly resistant to injury.

The character has been shown to be energized by sources of evil in the human realm, such as the alien Dire Wraiths. Like other demons, Mephisto is symbiotically linked to, and considerably more powerful within, his own realm, and the character is able to transform the structure at will. Within it he has threatened multiple solar systems, and stalemated a nourished Galactus until the latter ran out of energy and threatened to consume it.If Mephisto's physical form is destroyed, the character will regenerate and reform in his domain.

(Marvel site)
An immensely powerful supernatural entity, Mephisto wields mystical energy for effects such as force blasts, matter manipulation, astral projection, interdimensional portals, illusion-casting and shape-shifting (his true form is unknown). Mephisto can mystically trap living beings in his realm, but he cannot feed off these beings and rarely chooses to do this.

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Next...... Hela - goddess of death...

(Marvel)
Hela possesses the conventional attributes of an Asgardian woman (“goddess”) as well as certain special abilities that pertain to her role as a local death goddess. As a goddess of death, Hela holds her power of life and death over her kinsmen, the gods of Asgard. She can also touch perfectly healthy Asgardians and kill them with the touch if she so chooses. She also has the power to restore life to recently diseased gods as long as their spirits have not left the sheaths of their bodies. Hela is able to travel about in her astral form, possessing the same powers of death as her physical form has. Because of her Asgardian metabolism, she does not have any limitation on the amount of time she can spend out of her physical form, unlike mortal astral projectionists.

(Wiki)
Abilities
Superhuman strength, stamina, and durability
Extended life span
Deadly touch, a.k.a. "Hand of Glory"
High level mystical powers.

Hela has vast mystical powers which she can use for various effects like limitless astral projection while retaining many of her powers and abilities, firing deadly bolts of energy from her hands which can kill even Asgardians, levitation and the creation of illusions. Her most powerful ability is her Hand of Glory, a technique that used mystical energy to enhance the strength of her punch to kill even an Asgardian.

As a Death Goddess, Hela has a pact with Death, allowing her to claim the souls of any worshipper of the Asgardians and the Asgardians themselves and take them to Hel or Niffleheim, as well as able to travel nearly anywhere within the Nine Worlds in an instant. While Hela's touch is fatal to mortals as well and she is capable of stealing their souls into Hel, she generally did not claim the souls of mortal heroes, leaving that task to the Valkyries who took the souls of heroes to Valhalla. she can kill a healthy human or even Asgardian with a single touch, her "touch of death." Hela is also willing to use her illusions to kill living Asgardians. Hela also has the ability to restore a dead Asgardian to life provided their spirits have not passed on to the afterlife, but she rarely used these abilities.


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line from Hela - never before hath the thunder god been so like a raging juggernaut! his speed, his anger, are beyond comprehension. i cannot stop him, i cannot touch him.... <---- line from the goddess of death... wow!

woooo...

speaking of Thor's speed - he can move triple the speed of light

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yeah, Superman can move faster.

during his fight with Superboy-Prime in Infinite Crisis when they flew from Earth to the Andromeda Galaxy in minutes. Andromeda Galaxy is like 2.5 million light years away, so to anyone who has a calculator, computer just how fast that is. probably in the billion times faster than light.
I may post that scan when I find it.

but anyway here's from a bunch of scans I did post earlier in the thread
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Earth to the Sun in just a few seconds. that's 8x the speed of light(it takes 8 minutes for light to reach the Sun from the Earth or vice versa) than Thor's measly 3x the speed of light.

ug kani bro, u will be shocked... he fought one of the Celestials - Arishem... and i posted how powerful Celestials are.. Arishem is one of the Celestials only since its a race with infinity powers. Arishem is one of the Celestials nga ni visit sa Earth... In case you ignore my post about Celestials, ill post it again:

Celestials - star-faring race of humanoid aliens who possess untold cosmic power.These space-gods possess power several orders above its own.

Omnipotence <---- see how powerful Celestials are... Kubik (i believe u know Kubik) said Celstials are being of a transfinite level of power many orders of magnitude beyond our own... Kubik said that, and again, i know you know Kubik...

no. only The One Above All(not the Celestial of the same name) is omnipotent. even Eternity who's more powerful than the Celesitals is only nearly omnipotent.

and lets see how Thor fought with Arishem, one of the Celestials:

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Thor lifted and strikes the mighty sword of Odin here towards Arishem ...

See powers of Arishem here:
Arishem the Judge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The Celestials: (WIKI)
Celestial (comics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ---- The Celestials are among the most powerful physical entities in the universe. The highly evolved Cosmic Cube beings Kosmos and Kubik – beings who wield vast but undefined energy, matter, and reality manipulation powers in their own right – stated that a single Celestial possesses "power many orders of magnitude beyond our own". The Celestials were capable of reducing the Asgardian construct known as the Destroyer to slag even when the Destroyer was imbued with the life force of all the Asgardian gods (with the exception of Thor) move planets at will and contain, create, and seal off entire universes.

The Celestials: (Marvel)
Celestials - Marvel Universe Wiki: The definitive online source for Marvel super hero bios. ---- The Celestials are a star-faring race of humanoid aliens who possess untold cosmic power of an unknown limit.. Standing two thousand feet tall, the Celestials are clad in full body armor. No Earth being has ever seen what they look like beneath their armor or knows their origin. Celestials are beings who manifest their energies inside physical shells, most appearing as armor.

grabe no?

Thor even killed The Eternal Hero - the Forgotten One (you know him i believe)

Thor even fought with Zeus - now that is awesome...

Thor also fought with Surtur - the fire giant (i believe you know him already)..

ah, the last defence for Thor. and all of this are impressive but...

AND now tell me if Thor is still no match for a Kryptonian like Superman? eng eng eng.....

yes, because Thor does not possess the destructive capacity needed to completely defeat Superman. nor does he have the speed to catch up to Superman, if 3x the speed of light is all he has.
Superman on the other hand can let it rain punches that can destroy planets on Thor's face with his massive advantage in speed.

bilib gani kaau ka sa mga gods ni Diana who gave her gifts, and Diana can stand or challenge Superman, Diana with a power given by gods compared to a god, dako kaau ug difference diba?

and like Diana, Thor will lose to Superman.

this what will happen to a kryptonian challenging a god like Thor:

nice desperation pic, did you know how that fight ended? Superman basically defeated Thor, although he couldn't lift Mjolnir because he was deemed unworthy(to at least give Thor some measure of victory).

PROTIP: don't just arbitrarily post pics without knowing the full story behind it.

though that comic book isn't canon to the mainstream universes of both companies. still doesn't change the fact that Superman would win against Thor.

[Blackbeard]

Spectre? Just bring out Franklin Richards with the Spear of Destiny. God wouldn't kill a kid right? Right?

yes. current Spectre killed his host' own son iirc.

Franklin Richards who's actually a threat, is going to go crying home back to his hot mother.

Lol seriously, battledome threads like this never get anywhere. If you were to judge both universes by omnipotents alone, both the Presence and the One-Above-All would just cancel each other out. Same goes for Spectre and the Living Tribunal. (This is still debatable because I think Morningstar and the Great Evil Beast are stronger than Spectre)

The best thing you could do is pair two characters with each other, instead of just an all out match-up between the two universes. You can place rules, plot devices etc. to make things more realistic.

too bad I'm the only one actively participating here who actually knows how these things work. gatsby still thinks the JLU cartoon hasn't ended.

[Blackbeard]

powers or information about Spectre:

Spectre (comics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wapedia - Wiki: Spectre (comics)
Spectre (comics) | Ask.com Encyclopedia

Ask.com is a reliable site NOT only for DC characters or Marvel Characters but other information from A to Z...

all the sites above have references and external links going to DC site, so its not that Wikipedia, Wapedia, Ask.com are making these up. And, again, I BELIEVE DC editors wont just sit reading wrong information about their characters in a big site such as Wikipedia and Ask.com...

More information I got from Comicvine.com about Spectre:

The Spectre is one of the most powerful magical entity in the DC creation, capable of battling with such universal foes like the Anti-Monitor and Parallax. While the Spectre's power unchecked in nearly unlimited and is capable of shattering universes, he is generally limited by the Presence to a lower level of power to prevent the power from corrupting him
----- still under control of the Presence (according to Comicvine.com) or dictates of the Presence as what Wikipedia mentioned (Divine mystical enhancements granting virtual omnipotence, although the true scope ranges from the dictates of the Presence)....

since he is only one of the most powerful entity NOT the most powerful of DC, it means he is no match of Living Tribunal.... Living Tribunal possesses virtually unlimited power and near-absolute control over the Marvel Multiverse. "Near absolute" because there is One-Above-All which is equivalent to the Presence...

Weakness of Spectre - The Spectre can be injured or slain by sufficient force of magic--such as the Spear of Destiny. When the human host dies, the current Spectre will be no more, and the human spirit and the Divine Wrath will separate.

SOURCE: Spectre (comic book character)



it means naa syay weakness when the human host dies, and can be injured or slain by sufficient force of magic such as Spear of Destiny --- it says "such as" not ONLY Spear of Destiny...

Spectre at full power(full backing by the Presence) is equal to the Living Tribunal.

one sentence ownage ftw.

[Blackbeard]

is it really a comparison?
batman vs ironman?

the bat wont stand a chance. really HE wont.

if he has prep time, he would.
also depends on the battlefield, especially if it's in a crowded city.

Inventions that defined them
Ironman: has invented laser technology. and a high tech suit. and a long lasting battery.
Batman: has invented ... flying bat thingies that attaches to other things and blows-up. a belt that for some reason holds all the things he ever need. (cool)

he has a gun that killed Darkseid(a god).

Secretarty
Ironman: has peper pots as a secretary.
Batman: has a butler. a MALE butler. an OLD MALE butler. tsk.

yes, Alfred's time as a soldier and mercenary and his old man wisdom is quite an asset. Pepper is just for when Tony needs some booty call.

Technology
Ironman: has a computer that can talk and is capable of following orders from Stark. Comes in a suit version.
Batman: has customized keyboard to type from, and a large screen for viewing.

well, there's no doubt Tony has the superior tech, since Batman operates at the street level. though his Justice League tech is comparable to those of Tony's and Reed.

Social Standing
Ironman: Secretary of Defense
Batman: Playboy?

you mean, Bruce Wayne. Batman is feared and respected not just on Earth.

Costumes
Ironman: Fancy Suit that flies and has an AI installed in it.
Batman: Sexy Briefs worn outside of pants.

Mobility
Ironman: Flight.
Batman: yup he flew. but it did not last long. one hit from an enemy riding an over sized german shepherd and the bat went crashing.

granted, Batman's costume doesn't have any repulsor technology because of the environment and the style he works in.

Childhood
Ironman: Invented Motorbikes.
Batman: Nothing worth mentioning.

martial arts training from nearly all of the worlds top martial artist.

Costume Change
Ironman: changes clothes anywhere! armor just snaps right into place with new technology. WOOOT!
Batman: at home? or maybe. in a phone booth? hehehe or maybe CR? hehehe looser.

how does that make Batman a looser?

superman is a big looser. Ironman will just cook up a gauntlet filled with kryptonite for everyone in the marvel universe and your superman is useless.

there's not enough Kryptonite for everyone, assuming Tony actually knows it's one of Superman's weaknesses. not to mention there are other heroes to deal with, not just Superman. and the fact also that Superman can vaporize all of their kryptonite gauntlets from the moon. or Flash just grabs them all and vibrates them to non-existence.

Superman is Canceled every time a kryptonite is near. That is by far the best leverage Marvel world has on superman. Yes he can pulverize planets, but he sure cant raise a pebble when a kryptonite is near.

a long time ago, that was the case.

Hulk has no known weakness that drives him to his knees instantly.

his mobility is his weakness.

wait I have an Idea! Ironman can inject kryptonite to the hulk. and... TADA! superman rushes to the hulk to do a throw, suddenly he felt weak! oh no! his S sign is converted to a W! as in Weakestman! YEAH! WOOT!!!

mmm won't work. Superman once had Kryptonite in his blood stream and was still able to do his duties.

what can batman do to the hulk? breed baby hulks from banners ehem. to throw hurtful things to daddy hulk? HAHAHAHA

why is Batman suddenly matched up with the Hulk?

point is Ironman got toe to toe with the hulk and lost.
batman... well, good luck. dead man!

that doesn't make any sense at all.

[Blackbeard]

nindot jud ang marvel.. lots of character..

parehas ra sila sa DC.

Filipinos are just more familiar with Marvel, mao makaingon ka ana. hehe. also why the poll is going the way it is.