20 years in prison for erring drivers? is this not too much?

[sgrnim]

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kung makadasmag ka ug tao o bata kay nikalit lang ug labang nga wala ka makabantay. Ang paet pa gyud namatay ang biktima. Ayaw ko ingna nga kinahanglan ka mapriso ug dose ka tuig sa imong gibuhat nga dili man gani intentional.

dependi nana kung gi unsa nimo pag take care ang imo na agrabyado...

[qnxt]

Disiplina raman gyud unta tambal ane. Ang kagahe ra gyud sa ulo man gud.

[bearish]

tagsa ra ang mo impose ug self-discipline kung walay gikahadlokan nga silot ni mga tawhana.

[bearish]

para sad nako, kani nga balaod, nag focus ni maayo sa punishment. Instead, ari ta mo focus sa prevention unta. Para malikayan ang mga tragedy or mga disgrasya, kana maoy pangitaan ug paagi unsaon.

[masakiton]

tagsa ra ang mo impose ug self-discipline kung walay gikahadlokan nga silot ni mga tawhana.

dakong sakto
awa ang singapore.. dagko kaayo ug mga multa ug silot
kasagaran nga mga taw kai mo sunod nalang sa balaod kai dako2x ang multa

[bearish]

daghan pa angayan buhaton ang atong gobyerno para ma minimize or malikayan ang mga vehicular accidents. Kung silot lang ang atong hisgotan, bisan ug 30 years or 40 years pa prisohon ang driver, may chance pa na siya makagawas, pero ang namatay sa disgrasya di na jud to mabuhi.

So, sa giingon pa, "prevention is better than cure". sakto man sad na nga mag amping or mag matngon jud ang mga drivers para dili ma disgrasya. Pero, pananglitan, example lang ni ha, usa lang ni ka scenario: naay daghan iring,iro,manok sa karsada nya magbuhat dayon balaod ang atong senado nga kung kinsa to makaligis ug iro,manok,iring dunay silot 12 to 20 years in prison. Di ba mura tag gi lit-ag ani?

Dapat kuhaon usa na nila diha ang mga naa sa karsada para hawan ug way maligsan. Mao nay angayan hatagan ug dakong pag tagad. Ang mga tawo, bisan gibuhatan na ug skywalk para safe ang pag labang, dili jud mo saka sa skywalk kay mo cross jud sa ubos. Di ba la-ang ni sa mga drivers, in fairness lang sad ha. kay kung maligsan na sila, ang driver baya ang ma priso.

[RMK711]

agree ko ani..

mao pud ni ingon sa ako ka officemate dati nga tua na sa US.. defensive driving jud... then kung naay mulabang, bisan pila pana sila kabuok, hunong jud daw sila ug hulat hangtod makalabang..

Bai no matter how defensive you are as a driver, naa juy limit ang human reflex. Sayup nang inyong giingon nga sakto jud pirmi ang pedestrian.. kung ang pedestrian mopataka lang ug labang, dakpon intawon na sila sa U.S. Kung dili ka motoo, labay lang ug kalit sa highway nila.. kung dili ka mamatay, sigurado kang dakpon. Imbis sa Japan, ang mga pedestrian disiplina kaayu.. dili jud molabay unless nasa pedestrian lane. Sa australia kung maligsan ang pedestrian inya at-fault ang pedestrian, dili mapriso ang driver in fact dili man gali ma charge. What is needed is reasonability. Both drivers and pedestrians are responsible for their welfare.

I'm not talking about drivers who purposely drive aggressively, but drivers who take all the care in the world and still have the misfortune of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Dili lalim ang pag-priso sa tao, you have to have a sense of justice in your mind as well. I understand that if a pedestrian dies, the normal public reaction would be to cry out for blood. But think for a moment that one life has already been ruined, it is not necessary to ruin another one especially if it was an accident caused solely by the negligence of the pedestrian. If the pedestrian valued his life more, he would not be dead. Again I'm not talking here about the drunk driver who plows into a coffee shop and kills a number of people. I'm talking here about stupid pedestrians/motorcycle/etc getting themselves killed and you know there are a lot of them here! Putting drivers to prison for the mistakes of others is not the way a civilized society should behave.

[bearish]

Bai no matter how defensive you are as a driver, naa juy limit ang human reflex. Sayup nang inyong giingon nga sakto jud pirmi ang pedestrian.. kung ang pedestrian mopataka lang ug labang, dakpon intawon na sila sa U.S. Kung dili ka motoo, labay lang ug kalit sa highway nila.. kung dili ka mamatay, sigurado kang dakpon. Imbis sa Japan, ang mga pedestrian disiplina kaayu.. dili jud molabay unless nasa pedestrian lane. Sa australia kung maligsan ang pedestrian inya at-fault ang pedestrian, dili mapriso ang driver in fact dili man gali ma charge. What is needed is reasonability. Both drivers and pedestrians are responsible for their welfare.

I'm not talking about drivers who purposely drive aggressively, but drivers who take all the care in the world and still have the misfortune of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Dili lalim ang pag-priso sa tao, you have to have a sense of justice in your mind as well. I understand that if a pedestrian dies, the normal public reaction would be to cry out for blood. But think for a moment that one life has already been ruined, it is not necessary to ruin another one especially if it was an accident caused solely by the negligence of the pedestrian. If the pedestrian valued his life more, he would not be dead. Again I'm not talking here about the drunk driver who plows into a coffee shop and kills a number of people. I'm talking here about stupid pedestrians/motorcycle/etc getting themselves killed and you know there are a lot of them here! Putting drivers to prison for the mistakes of others is not the way a civilized society should behave.

I agree to your point sir RMK, it's very practical. But as stated in the bill... "erring public transport drivers". So, I believe nga naa pa gihapon due process before ma establish kung erring ba. Dili siguro automatic nga kung maka ligis, priso jud.

[wikki]

they should make a damn law nga maka defend sad ang tarung nga drivers from unbelivably dumb pedestrians. labi na gyud diri sa Cebu hastang atay nalang mag lakaw sa karsada, mu kalit lang og labang, then kung ma saghiran ikaw pay kasab.an.

maayo gyud nang ligsan nalang dayun aron ma matay. lungon nly gasto. then mu dawat raman nang mga bua.ya. samok.

[johnnygomezzz]

maayu daghan rn mga bag.o ra kat.on pataka lag overtake ug mga motor pd na pa sikat