psst pwd pa mo singit... hehe
ang ako ra jud maikaingon sa clono ug sa branded na pc or server kay duha ra, technical support and part compatibility testing. sa quality ng materials almost thesame ra man. processors same factory ra man gi gikanan. pareho ra na, mag depende ra na sa nag assemble(kung clone) ug sa paggamit.
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06-24-2009, 11:47 PM #31Junior Member
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06-25-2009, 05:13 PM #32C.I.A.
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i tried setting up DIY servers before sa previous job nako...
File servers, TS servers, printer servers with almost 80 network printers, and etc.
using windows server 2003 R2 and windows 2000 server.
most of these machines are ki salvage ra nako....from old canibalized Pentium 4 desktops.
and a 2 gig E2100 dualcore from a resigned employee
dapat lang gyud daghan ug ram... which is hard to find sa akong situation....the more ram.. the more stable ma accomodate niya ang mga sessions.
grabeh sad mu kaon ug ram if naa kay ki install nga antivirus and network services nga nag dagan.
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06-25-2009, 10:52 PM #33Senior Member
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were they really reliable? non ECC ram is not recommended as far as i've researched, and true server boards and procs have error checking functions and characteristics that prevent problems with server operations.
Originally Posted by Fern
i tried setting up DIY servers before sa previous job nako...
File servers, TS servers, printer servers with almost 80 network printers, and etc.
using windows server 2003 R2 and windows 2000 server.
most of these machines are ki salvage ra nako....from old canibalized Pentium 4 desktops.
and a 2 gig E2100 dualcore from a resigned employee
dapat lang gyud daghan ug ram... which is hard to find sa akong situation....the more ram.. the more stable ma accomodate niya ang mga sessions.
grabeh sad mu kaon ug ram if naa kay ki install nga antivirus and network services nga nag dagan.
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06-25-2009, 11:45 PM #34C.I.A.
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yes they were reliable.. especially if simple ra imung gamit... like simple fileserver and print server Originally Posted by Lunch
somehow.... magka problema gyud if heavy operation imung server...like application servers with a backend database on the same machine, DHCP servers,and machines nga used for Domain controllers. and also proxy servers
sakto sad nga naay error corrction capability ang mga server hardwares.. kay grabeh man gud ang number of transactions/sessions between client and server.... especially like for example
500 clients -------> conecting to a application server (1 servermachine) ------> connecting to a machine holding the entire database
PS... if simple ra gani imung gamit... you can have a simple dual core machine with 3 gigs of ram and a 32bit server os. and ofcourse a reliable PSU
BTW... u dont need to order something outside sa pinas... u need to get in touch with local suppliers and hear out their Tech solution presentations
last year ni attend ko sa comdap sa SM... naay mga small business servers that cost around 40 to 60 k ra ..... and the cool thing is that these servers use SAS drives
pwerteng gamaya urag laptop harddisk.... but also there ar servers nga gamit sad ug standard SATA dtives... which is very common dire sa market.Last edited by Fern; 06-26-2009 at 12:25 AM.
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06-26-2009, 03:06 PM #35Junior Member
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speaking of ordinary pc's used as server, pwd man pud linux cluster server, hehe hutdun ug gamit imo mga karaan pc himuon ug clusters... hehe, naa ko internet cafe ako na gi close kay wla na magmanage kay lumber nako ron, hehe, try nko maghimo ug linux cluster...
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06-26-2009, 03:54 PM #36C.I.A.
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wow.... ka nice gud ana. wala pa ko ka try gamit ug linux.. i tried but i end up doing windows hhehehehehe. Originally Posted by toinker
maka addict man gud si bill gates..
unsa imung ki gamit para ani? application+database server?
or kanang murag style sa hollywoood nga distributed movie rendering clustered servers ?Last edited by Fern; 06-26-2009 at 04:00 PM.
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06-26-2009, 04:38 PM #37Junior Member
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wla pko kabalo unsa ko himuon, kung application server o web+database.. naa nko 16 ka pc, pero wla pako nahuna-hunaan na himuon.. Originally Posted by Fern
wow.... ka nice gud ana. wala pa ko ka try gamit ug linux.. i tried but i end up doing windows hhehehehehe.
maka addict man gud si bill gates..
unsa imung ki gamit para ani? application+database server?
or kanang murag style sa hollywoood nga distributed movie rendering clustered servers ?
tapos nko nag reseach ani sauna tung nag plano pako maghimo ug webserver pero ni back-out man ako financier so wla madayon..
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06-27-2009, 02:21 AM #38C.I.A.
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Supermicro FTW!
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06-27-2009, 02:37 PM #39C.I.A.
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Kuya Toinker... pwede na ka mag negosyo ana... ikaw tig set up ug mga server farms Originally Posted by toinker
ang main challenge lang gyud is reliable hardware
Back to topic:
nindot ang branded server machines if u are using it in critical company corporate wide stuffs...
but for a start.. @TS you should try experimenting first on setting up a simple windows based server and then mag mag himu ka ug mini work group.... but anyway.... there is always tech support for branded stuffs
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06-28-2009, 06:31 AM #40Junior Member
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just build one based on one of AMD's shanghai quads. pair it with a good serverboard and ECC rams and your good to go...
i don't think reliability will be an issue if you use quality parts...
same goes with branded pc's vs clone ones...
the only diff will be tech support...
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