Wisdom of Buddha!

[Hellblazer 2.1]

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Im not in the position to determine(jack) if his an initiate or not; though for sure he has deep knowledge of occultism, as part of the study is "geometry"; not to mentioned his martyrdom in upholding the tenets of Masonry even tortured by the holy church, he only admit some statements puppeted by the church as a bargain to stop the senseless killing of his brother masons.
just like bro. jose rizal, he requested not to be shot at his back because that would mean his a traitor to his country w/c he never was; but the church asked him to recant his being a mason for his plea to be granted, but rizal was unwilling to cooperate w/ the bargaining; so he was shot from at his back though if you notice in the picture of his firing he partialy face the shooters, his attempt to make a statement that he was not a traitor to his country, the villain actually were the holy church who killed him

OT: verse lang Bro. hehehe. yes, i concur with what you said, Brother.

[regnauld]

Buddha bless you!

[flying fish]

The first declaration made by Hui-Neng regarding his Zen experience was that 'From the first not a thing is'.

"Being neither teacher nor guru, and since from the first not a thing is, the most one can do is help point the way. In the end it resides in you."

Basic Budhist declaration- everybody is endowed w/ budha nature; everybody is a budha in the
becoming
- your purpose is to awaken the budha in you through the basic
"Yama & Niyama" or the do's & dont's & of course Meditation

"From the first not a thing is"- a blow to standard budhism; though to my understanding this kind
of approach is intended for students who outgrown the standard or
basic teachings; full of paradox & requires intense awareness

you may compare this statement of Huining to that of J.K. krishnamurti;
The analyser is the analized;

Or to Theosophy
basic is- i am that
next level- i am that i am
the book light "the voice of the silence" is considered by no less than Dr. Suzuki, exclaiming that the book is a Mahayana budhism

or even pop psychology-
basic- cultivate thoughts, words,action, habit,behavior,character then destiny
esoteric psychology-Being first before becoming
Christian eso- "Seek ye first the kingdom of god"


"Negative" approach such as krishnamurti, Advaita edanta prefer to approach TRUtH by pointing out "What is not Truth", or Neti Neti

[flying fish]

"The whole system of Zen disciplione may thus be said to be nothing but a series of attempts to set us absolutely free from all forms of bondage. Even when we talk of "seeing into one's self-nature", this seeing has also a binding effect on us if it is construed as having something in it specifically set up;that is, if the seeing is a specific state of consciousness. For this is the binding".

from: The zen doctrine of no mind, by D.T. Suzuki

[regnauld]

"The whole system of Zen disciplione may thus be said to be nothing but a series of attempts to set us absolutely free from all forms of bondage. Even when we talk of "seeing into one's self-nature", this seeing has also a binding effect on us if it is construed as having something in it specifically set up;that is, if the seeing is a specific state of consciousness. For this is the binding".

from: The zen doctrine of no mind, by D.T. Suzuki

ZEN masters achieve enlightenment not because they are wise and holy but because they are willing to be ordinary just like everybody else.

[flying fish]

ZEN masters achieve enlightenment not because they are wise and holy but because they are willing to be ordinary just like everybody else.

Detachment is very much of a practice, to disidentify oneself specialy to our ego is the most difficult, man more often than not wanted to be the center of attention, star of the show. Zen Buddhism strive not to feed any intellectual arrogance, any form of malice & conceit, and any self righteousness. but at the same time strive not to get attached to the process of detachment.

[regnauld]

Detachment is very much of a practice, to disidentify oneself specialy to our ego is the most difficult, man more often than not wanted to be the center of attention, star of the show. Zen Buddhism strive not to feed any intellectual arrogance, any form of malice & conceit, and any self righteousness. but at the same time strive not to get attached to the process of detachment.

So, when a person is detached, does that mean he has no attachments anymore? Balance is the key! You are right Bishop!

[baliguat]

Detachment is very much of a practice, to disidentify oneself specialy to our ego is the most difficult, man more often than not wanted to be the center of attention, star of the show. Zen Buddhism strive not to feed any intellectual arrogance, any form of malice & conceit, and any self righteousness. but at the same time strive not to get attached to the process of detachment.

It reminds me the Dessert Fathers!

Very nice bro! Daghan jud maigo diri.

[regnauld]

It reminds me the Dessert Fathers!

Very nice bro! Daghan jud maigo diri.

The Desert Fathers know the secret prayer of the heart. It's called "The Jesus Prayer" and if you know that by heart, you don't need to read the BIBLE for it summarizes everything what the BIBLE teaches.

[flying fish]

So, when a person is detached, does that mean he has no attachments anymore? Balance is the key! You are right Bishop!

an "idea" helps us to get "there", once you get there you disembark & let loose of the "idea", then ride again another idea to get to another journey, & let go of it, same process, this is zen way