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  1. #181

    mao.. korek..

  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by makusama View Post
    all these questions can be avoided if dili ta "one track mind" na pang daot lang gyud ang tumong. Faith with love as its roots is definitely better for me than a faith with hatred and negativity in mind. Try to answer your doubts and questions yourself first rather than blurting it out without even thinking.
    Bro katong bata pa ko, i studied in a Christian School.. Pag abot nako og grade 3, gibalhin ko sa public school. Adto pa nako nahibaw.an nga lahi mi in terms sa among Christian belief. napunu ko og pangutana from my klasmeyts about our faith. So ako pud gipasa ang mga pangutana sa akong parents. Pag abot nako og grade 4 & 5, basta ang mga teachers grabe na maka confront sa ako. karon bro, unsa may tumong nila ato ilang gibuhat?

  3. #183
    Kaalegre! hehehehehehehehehehe

  4. #184
    All I can say for now is that it is a Catholic thing. It is "ONE WAY" of showing our faith to God in spirit and in truth.

    try this link bro. Its a good Catholic website answering commonly ask questions and criticisms.

    CATHOLIC LIBRARY: Quick Questions
    Quote Originally Posted by pal View Post
    If their faith is really that great, why will they use images?
    Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship in spirit and truth.

  5. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by bcasabee View Post
    All I can say for now is that it is a Catholic thing. It is "ONE WAY" of showing our faith to God in spirit and in truth.

    try this link bro. Its a good Catholic website answering commonly ask questions and criticisms.

    CATHOLIC LIBRARY: Quick Questions
    Yes that is your "own way" but we people must think that our ways is not God's way. We may think that what we are doing is good and right in the eyes of God but that is only our "THINKING" and our ways and our thinking is not important here. We should always be in accordance to God's way and never contradict it.

  6. #186
    To love and not waiting to be loved in return.

    kabantay mo sa kinabuhi ni jesus? mao na iya gibuhat.

    basta masunod lang na nimo. mao na na.

  7. #187
    Quote Originally Posted by makusama View Post
    Let me answer your question and let me explain why it is a bit silly...

    Why is there no feast of God the Father? Why are the Saints given their own days of celebration and why isnt our creator given his fair share?

    Let me throw some questions back at you first for better understanding...

    Is there a Philippines day? I dont think so but correct me if I am wrong, but there is a national heroes day right? there is an Independence day right? there is a Bonifacio Day right?

    Now ask yourself why is that so?

    A bit confused?.. come on think!

    Okay I shall give you the answer... All of the heroes are celebrated for what they have done FOR the Country which in this case is the Phils. When you celebrate Rizal Day you celebrate the Country of Phils. When you Celebrate Independence Day you Celebrate the Phils.

    Now I ask you is GOD the father worth only a DAY? or is He worth more than that? Everyday is a celebration of GOD. Everyday is a feast or fiesta of God! We Catholics celebrate more on days/fiestas in commemoration of how well that specific Saint/Man/Woman has served the will of God.... in short ang target is GOD gihapon...

    If in your religion God is only worth a day then we are different because God is definitively not worth a day but much much more...

    kahibaw kag unsay meaning anang "FIESTA" bro?

    nganong imo mang i compare ang pang religion sa pangkalibutan nga kalayo rag deperensya ana ah! kung naay "National Heroes Day", PANGKALIBUTANON MANA! nganong imo manang i compare sa PANG GINOO! untwa nani oi! tsk tsk tsk!

  8. #188
    Quote Originally Posted by Madara View Post
    kahibaw kag unsay meaning anang "FIESTA" bro?

    nganong imo mang i compare ang pang religion sa pangkalibutan nga kalayo rag deperensya ana ah! kung naay "National Heroes Day", PANGKALIBUTANON MANA! nganong imo manang i compare sa PANG GINOO! untwa nani oi! tsk tsk tsk!

    sure jud ko bro nga kabalo ka sa meaning sa fiesta, isulti na lang na para kabalo sad ang uban.

    piyesta na sad ron ni St. God no?

    fiesta ug heroes day = kasa-ulogan

    fiesta sa mga santos ug heroes day = kalibutanhon

    christmas, ug semana santa = pang-Ginoo

    sa tan-aw nimo bro madara kung wala pa man gani ka ma banned, unsa mna kalahi-an ani nila?

  9. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by oTnur View Post
    Another accusation against Catholics is that they are 'idol worshippers' in the Church.
    If we taken this word literally, God is prohibiting all arts and architecture in this world. All arts belong to images or likeness in the universe. In fact God forbade the worship of fake gods that existed at the pagan culture! They believed that the statues themselves are their gods, and made sacrifices for them. But GOd never prohibited the use of statues in the places of worship, which helped people to feel His Presence, as the Bible says.

    God commanded to make Images
    Ex.25:18-20 God said:"And you shall make two cherubims of gold; of hammered work shall you make them, on the two ends of the mercy seat." This is to0 create an awareness among the people about God's presence.
    In 1Chr.28:18-19 David gives the plan of the temple to solomon: His plan for the golden chariot of the cherubim that spread wings and covered the Ark of the Covenant". When Solomon constructed that temple with statues, GOd blessed him and dwelt in that temple.
    Ex:28:31 GOd commanded that Aaron's priestly vestments must be adorned with images. Num.21:8-9 God said to mosses " Make a statue of a fairy serpent and set it on a pole, everyone who is bitten when sees, will live" In all these places God made use of statues for religious purpose.
    GOd revaels Himself in a visible form (daniel7:9) The Holy Spirit reveals Himself in a visible form of a dove(Matt.3:16) and tongues of fire (Acts.2:1-4) Christ is the visible image of invisible God(2Cor.4:6)
    When God said not to bow before them, it meant not to worship them nor respect them as God(Fake god). Catholic devotees, who bow before a statue, are not worshipping them! When we bow before our National Heroes, does that mean we worship them? This practice varies from culture to culture. In Japan, India and some counties, bowing is used as an expression of respect!
    The biblical meaning of idolatry is not prohibiting statues and paintings, but worshipping fake gods and commiting sins as St. Paul says: "Put to death the parts of you that are earthly: Immorality, impurity,passion, evil desires and that LUST that is IDOLATRY" (Col.3.5)

    Early Christian tradition
    Before the formation of the Bible, Christians in their churches used statues and pictures. The 4th century Historian Eusebius tells us that he had seen a statue of Christ 'arms outreached'(Church hitory, book 7 Ch:
    The Catholic Church has the evidence from 150 AD onwards that the Christian decorated their tombs and catacombs with paintings of Jesus, Mary, dove cross, fish etc. Excavations for a new basilica at Nazareth brought to light a mosaic painting of Eucharist which dates back 63 AD. The oldest pictures of Mary and the child Jesus are found in the Catacomb of Pricillia in Rome, dating back 2nd Century. Even before the Bible formed, paintings and statues catechized people by reproducing the events in the Gospel!

    And thats how it is!

    Peace!
    bro...pwede magpakita ka BISAN USA NGA VERSE sa esp. sa New Testament nga ang mga early Christians nigamit ug mga images sa ilang pag alagad sa Ginoo?

    BISAN USA LANG BRO PWEDE?

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    I have a Jordanian friend.
    He is a muslim.
    In their house they do not place any picture.
    All they place on their walls are writings.
    They also consider having a picture on the wall as idolatry.
    The only picture they have is the one placed on their ID card.

    This happens when we are too strict about anything.
    People seem to overdo it.

    So for me.
    Worship whoever you want.
    Place all the saints you want.
    I don't believe in them.
    And I don't care if you place them above your head all the time.
    We should respect each other and let them do whatever they want to do.
    As long as they are not hurting anyone.

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