Catholic Fiestas

[botslob]

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matod pa sa among Re-ED teacher ang mass o Holy Eucharist mao nay highest form of worship to God. Mas labaw pa na sa pista. Kung mosimba ka adlaw adlaw murag nagpista ka adlaw adlaw hhihihihi. Ang misa gipahinongod sa Diyos nga pwede nimo buhaton matag adlaw o usa sa usa ka semana. Ang pista kay ka usa sa usa ka tuig ra na mga bradix. Magbirthday man gani ta sa atong mga parente kana pa kaha sa atong patron saint! Ang sa Ginoo pirmi na ang pista matag-adlaw kung gusto ka basta mosimba ka!

[necrotic freak]

correct gyud ka bro botslob.

[oTnur]

Another accusation against Catholics is that they are 'idol worshippers' in the Church.
If we taken this word literally, God is prohibiting all arts and architecture in this world. All arts belong to images or likeness in the universe. In fact God forbade the worship of fake gods that existed at the pagan culture! They believed that the statues themselves are their gods, and made sacrifices for them. But GOd never prohibited the use of statues in the places of worship, which helped people to feel His Presence, as the Bible says.

God commanded to make Images
Ex.25:18-20 God said:"And you shall make two cherubims of gold; of hammered work shall you make them, on the two ends of the mercy seat." This is to0 create an awareness among the people about God's presence.
In 1Chr.28:18-19 David gives the plan of the temple to solomon: His plan for the golden chariot of the cherubim that spread wings and covered the Ark of the Covenant". When Solomon constructed that temple with statues, GOd blessed him and dwelt in that temple.
Ex:28:31 GOd commanded that Aaron's priestly vestments must be adorned with images. Num.21:8-9 God said to mosses " Make a statue of a fairy serpent and set it on a pole, everyone who is bitten when sees, will live" In all these places God made use of statues for religious purpose.
GOd revaels Himself in a visible form (daniel7:9) The Holy Spirit reveals Himself in a visible form of a dove(Matt.3:16) and tongues of fire (Acts.2:1-4) Christ is the visible image of invisible God(2Cor.4:6)
When God said not to bow before them, it meant not to worship them nor respect them as God(Fake god). Catholic devotees, who bow before a statue, are not worshipping them! When we bow before our National Heroes, does that mean we worship them? This practice varies from culture to culture. In Japan, India and some counties, bowing is used as an expression of respect!
The biblical meaning of idolatry is not prohibiting statues and paintings, but worshipping fake gods and commiting sins as St. Paul says: "Put to death the parts of you that are earthly: Immorality, impurity,passion, evil desires and that LUST that is IDOLATRY" (Col.3.5)

Early Christian tradition
Before the formation of the Bible, Christians in their churches used statues and pictures. The 4th century Historian Eusebius tells us that he had seen a statue of Christ 'arms outreached'(Church hitory, book 7 Ch:
The Catholic Church has the evidence from 150 AD onwards that the Christian decorated their tombs and catacombs with paintings of Jesus, Mary, dove cross, fish etc. Excavations for a new basilica at Nazareth brought to light a mosaic painting of Eucharist which dates back 63 AD. The oldest pictures of Mary and the child Jesus are found in the Catacomb of Pricillia in Rome, dating back 2nd Century. Even before the Bible formed, paintings and statues catechized people by reproducing the events in the Gospel!

And thats how it is!

Peace!

[bcasabee]

Yehey, oTnur the Catholic standard bearer is back......

[pal]

Mangutana lang unta ko OTnur kung unsay ikasulti nimu katong naay nangamatay sa parade sa black nazarene. If you don't worship statues, if those stautes are just your representation on God, why are those devotees risk their lives to just have a single wipe on the face of the statues with their hanky? They are all hoping to witness miracle in their lives by doing that.

Act 17:29 Being then the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and device of man.

[bcasabee]

In my opinion bro, anything related to God is holy and worthy of veneration. Since we Catholics believe that the Black Nazarene is the image of God, thus it is related to God, then it is considered holy and worthy of veneration. I remember this story in the Gospel where Jesus was walking in a midst of crowd, there was this young person who with great faith, wanted to touch even Jesus helms(can't approached openly because of the crowd and the young person's illness), because of the belief that even touching Jesus clothes would make that young person be healed from the illness. I'm sure we can find that story in the Gospel.
Anyway, that is only my opinion. I hope oTnur can give an official Catholic stand on this.

[baliguat]

Mangutana lang unta ko OTnur kung unsay ikasulti nimu katong naay nangamatay sa parade sa black nazarene. If you don't worship statues, if those stautes are just your representation on God, why are those devotees risk their lives to just have a single wipe on the face of the statues with their hanky? They are all hoping to witness miracle in their lives by doing that.

Act 17:29 Being then the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and device of man.

opinion lang nako ni.

Karon mangutana ko nimo. Tungod ba kay in ato ang nahitabo pasaqnginlan na dayon nimo ang Katoliko?
Pasagdi ang tawo kung unsay iyahang pag too, kay Ginoo ray mag hukom dili ang tawo. And one thing wala mag sugo ang simbahan para mag stamped. kinsay gusto nga naay manga matay?

Kay kung kinsa kadtong gusto lang maka kita sa sayop sa uban, mao poy buhaton sa Ginoo ngadto kaniya?
Kung tig ampo ka, nganong di na man lang ka mag ampo para sa kaayuhan sa uban?

[baliguat]

Another accusation against Catholics is that they are 'idol worshippers' in the Church.
If we taken this word literally, God is prohibiting all arts and architecture in this world. All arts belong to images or likeness in the universe. In fact God forbade the worship of fake gods that existed at the pagan culture! They believed that the statues themselves are their gods, and made sacrifices for them. But GOd never prohibited the use of statues in the places of worship, which helped people to feel His Presence, as the Bible says.

God commanded to make Images
Ex.25:18-20 God said:"And you shall make two cherubims of gold; of hammered work shall you make them, on the two ends of the mercy seat." This is to0 create an awareness among the people about God's presence.
In 1Chr.28:18-19 David gives the plan of the temple to solomon: His plan for the golden chariot of the cherubim that spread wings and covered the Ark of the Covenant". When Solomon constructed that temple with statues, GOd blessed him and dwelt in that temple.
Ex:28:31 GOd commanded that Aaron's priestly vestments must be adorned with images. Num.21:8-9 God said to mosses " Make a statue of a fairy serpent and set it on a pole, everyone who is bitten when sees, will live" In all these places God made use of statues for religious purpose.
GOd revaels Himself in a visible form (daniel7:9) The Holy Spirit reveals Himself in a visible form of a dove(Matt.3:16) and tongues of fire (Acts.2:1-4) Christ is the visible image of invisible God(2Cor.4:6)
When God said not to bow before them, it meant not to worship them nor respect them as God(Fake god). Catholic devotees, who bow before a statue, are not worshipping them! When we bow before our National Heroes, does that mean we worship them? This practice varies from culture to culture. In Japan, India and some counties, bowing is used as an expression of respect!
The biblical meaning of idolatry is not prohibiting statues and paintings, but worshipping fake gods and commiting sins as St. Paul says: "Put to death the parts of you that are earthly: Immorality, impurity,passion, evil desires and that LUST that is IDOLATRY" (Col.3.5)

Early Christian tradition
Before the formation of the Bible, Christians in their churches used statues and pictures. The 4th century Historian Eusebius tells us that he had seen a statue of Christ 'arms outreached'(Church hitory, book 7 Ch:
The Catholic Church has the evidence from 150 AD onwards that the Christian decorated their tombs and catacombs with paintings of Jesus, Mary, dove cross, fish etc. Excavations for a new basilica at Nazareth brought to light a mosaic painting of Eucharist which dates back 63 AD. The oldest pictures of Mary and the child Jesus are found in the Catacomb of Pricillia in Rome, dating back 2nd Century. Even before the Bible formed, paintings and statues catechized people by reproducing the events in the Gospel!

And thats how it is!

Peace!

Sir oTnur, Salamat sa imuha!

[pal]

In my opinion bro, anything related to God is holy and worthy of veneration. Since we Catholics believe that the Black Nazarene is the image of God, thus it is related to God, then it is considered holy and worthy of veneration. I remember this story in the Gospel where Jesus was walking in a midst of crowd, there was this young person who with great faith, wanted to touch even Jesus helms(can't approached openly because of the crowd and the young person's illness), because of the belief that even touching Jesus clothes would make that young person be healed from the illness. I'm sure we can find that story in the Gospel.
Anyway, that is only my opinion. I hope oTnur can give an official Catholic stand on this.

In my opinion bro, i hope this won't sound too offending, that they accept the black nazarene (statue) as equal to Jesus, when it was only intended as a model. Wa na ang Ginoo sa yuta bro naa na siya sa langit. Also bro, mostly sa nakigdasok ato nga parade are aiming for miracles nga makalingkawas sila sa kapobrihon. And yet, God teaches through the bible the ways/secrets for us to receive blessings. Unya wa jud naapil ang pagpahidpahid sa mga rebulto.

Psa 115:2 Why may the nations say, Where is now their God?
Psa 115:3 But our God is in heaven: he has done whatever was pleasing to him.
Psa 115:4 Their images are silver and gold, the work of men's hands.
Psa 115:5 They have mouths, but no voice; they have eyes, but they see not;
Psa 115:6 They have ears, but no hearing; they have noses, but no sense of smell;
Psa 115:7 They have hands without feeling, and feet without power of walking; and no sound comes from their throat.
Psa 115:8 Those who make them are like them; and so is everyone who puts his faith in them

[oTnur]

In the face of many falsehood and deceptions, there is a greater need for evangelization now, more than ever. There is a greater challenge to let the people know the truth about our Catholic faith. It is only in knowing and understanding the truth we can come to live out the truth. And for us Catholics, the truth is not only a set of doctrines and dogmas. The truth is a Person with the face and name of JESUS CHRIST.

Tossed as we are by the different waves of trendy ideologies, our bedrock is none other than the Church that Jesus Christ founded with Simon Peter as its visible head. Regardless of public opinions and the onslaught of worldly thoughts that hammer against the church both inside and out, the community of disciples holds unto what the apostles teach and handed down because of the clear belief in the promise of Jesus that He will remain with His Church until the end of the times and that the gates of hell cannot prevail against it.

The many forms of assault against the Church and Her teachings are really proofs that She performs the work of God in Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit. It is evident enough that the Holy Apostles who have been the first leaders of the Church were consecrated in the in the truth and have been led into the truth.

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May God bless your noble effort in proclaiming the truth. Thank you very much!

Vivat Jesus!