Questions/Doubts/Wrong Practices to the Catholic Church--Analysis and Opinion

[jangska]

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whats wrong ug mahal bai... palit gani ta ug butang na di kaayo nato kinahanglanon na perteng mahala nya reklamo ta sa bayad sa pa misa... meaning if ur faith mababagan ug amount sa money, mawala na dayn imong pag tuo? or you equate your faith with money... hope u get my point...

akoa bai kay katong dika afford ad2 ra sila sa baratohon nga dugay dawaton sa ginoo or sa mahal daw kay special prayer mas dali ma dungog sa ginoo. kwarta na diay basihan karon para mas mapa dali ug paduol sa ginoo. mao rana akoa bai. ngano di man parihas naa paman jud special nga mas mahal.

[Soul Doctor]

Whats the purpose of this thread?

There is no right religion if you ask me.

[nijazared]

Whats the purpose of this thread?

There is no right religion if you ask me.

I think the TS main purpose is to answer questions and doubters and give more clarification to the practices of the Catholic Church.
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On Topic
One of the ten commandments:
Thou shall not have any other gods before me.
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gods- refer to images/statues of other people or so called gods that are being worshipped by people, this includes material things and anything under the sun.
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But why is it that you make prayers to Mary and you have all the idols in the Church?
Why do we need to make prayers to Mary and the Popes when in fact we can pray to God directly?
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[jangska]

I think the TS main purpose is to answer questions and doubters and give more clarification to the practices of the Catholic Church.
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On Topic
One of the ten commandments:
Thou shall not have any other gods before me.
**
gods- refer to images/statues of other people or so called gods that are being worshipped by people, this includes material things and anything under the sun.
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But why is it that you make prayers to Mary and you have all the idols in the Church?
Why do we need to make prayers to Mary and the Popes when in fact we can pray to God directly?
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sakto jud bai.. libog pud ko ana.. best example ani kay kanang ang santos sa simbahan nay ampoan ug maayo. nya naa pinalabi nga simbahan nga mas daghan ang manimba.

[masakiton]

Yes. In-ana jud na ang mga pari especially kung naa sila sa city like mandaue, cebu city, etc.

For the schools, especially catholic universities, gituyo na nila. Imagine if pwd mu-take og exam and wala ka-bayad. Daghan kaayo ang musunod ani. Daghan mag-abusar. And lisud kaayo i-control especially daghan magpalusot. Also, the high tuition fees are supposed to be with the development of the educational systems of such schools para ma-improve ilang laboratory supplies, classrooms, etc, to cope up with the current globalization today.

diba kasagaran i lecture sa mga pari kai chance ug gugma? ngano dili man nila i apply sa ilahang organization ug establishments? kutob ra diay sila istorya?

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

There are more repetitive prayers than the rosary done by the Catholics. However, repetitive prayers are different from standardized prayer as the latter is intended for congregational prayers rather than an individualism prayer. However, such prayers are not even senseless and filthy. It is similar on how you say "I love you" to your girlfriend. You almost say it every time. However, a problem arises when the "I love you" is said without meaning. The Catholics also have problem with that when they pray prayers which they have mastered and mean no sense at all. However, not all Catholics are that and such prayers are still heard by God.

You can say "I love you" to your love ones everyday or every night.

Pero para sabihin mo yun ng sampung beses paulit-ulit sa isang instance, parang lumalabas hindi nakakaintindi yung kausap mo. Ganan ang tinuturo ng rosaryo isama na natin ang 3 o clock habit.

You died, Jesus, but the source of life gushed forth for souls, and the ocean of mercy opened up for the whole world. O Fountain of Life, unfathomable Divine Mercy, envelope the whole world and empty Yourself out upon us.

O Blood and Water, which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus, as a fountain of mercy for us, I trust in You.

Holy God, Holy mighty One, Holy Immortal One, Have Mercy on us and the whole world. Amen. (Say 3 x)

Jesus King of Mercy, we trust in you.

[redhorse1L]

You can say "I love you" to your love ones everyday or every night.

Pero para sabihin mo yun ng sampung beses paulit-ulit sa isang instance, parang lumalabas hindi nakakaintindi yung kausap mo. Ganan ang tinuturo ng rosaryo isama na natin ang 3 o clock habit.

You're looking at it in a Human perspective.
It is as if God gets bored listening praises over and over again.

Don't you know angels are praising God thoughout eternity?
And if you're going to heaven, you will be praising Him forever.
And that's non-stop! Hope you're not discouraged in going to heaven now..

Unlike human, God is not bound in time, space, including numbers.
God is not bored when he hears someone praying the thing all over again. We can read lots of repititions on the Book of Psalm.

Even Jesus, prayed the same prayers thrice on the night of His arrest.
"..remove this cup from me; yet not what I will, but what thou wilt"

As long as you're praying from your heart, and not as a hypocrite, God definitely listens to our prayers.

[redhorse1L]

well... basically... you will be asking for donations...

but the thing is..
and the topic that you have started is that..
why and why.. is there a fixed donation FEE??
and so...why some catholic church say that money is evil?.. and they need it..
they even ask it as mandatory for every service..

except for a sunday mass where they only ask for donations and when you can give even just a penny in your pocket...

Nah, gi-ingnan bitaw tika nga look at it from organizational perspective.
I think wala pa jud ka perceive kung unsay dagan if mag-tukod ka ug organization. Or wala pa ka ka-suway ug dala ug dagko nga organization.

Naa man gali ko nadunggan nga non-Catholic church magpayad kung mo-absent ka ug Sunday.

Some non-Catholics resorted to tithes (fixed 10% donation from your income).
Naay uban, walay tithes, pero sige pa-dungog2x, usahay, manginsulto inig sermon.. Nga mopalit kuno ug pepsi sa gawas, pero 5 ra ang i-donate sa simbahan (saw it on TV).

So unsa ilang gibuhat? Mamaligya ug Sunday reading, or booklets about their faith, ticket para sa concert, etc.. etc..

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Money is evil when Greed takes over.
But like food and clothing, money is necessity.
Unsa may ihatag sa charitable institutions without the money?

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well... basically... you will be asking for donations...

What type of donations? Nga sige naman ka ug pangayo?
Take note, mahal kaayo patukod ug building.
Patong2x utang nimo ana.
Naa pa ka gi-utang sakyanan, then pang-gasolina/maintenance pa.
Would it be a 2nd collection? or tithes?

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

You're looking at it in a Human perspective.
It is as if God gets bored listening praises over and over again.

Don't you know angels are praising God thoughout eternity?
And if you're going to heaven, you will be praising Him forever.
And that's non-stop! Hope you're not discouraged in going to heaven now..

Unlike human, God is not bound in time, space, including numbers.
God is not bored when he hears someone praying the thing all over again. We can read lots of repititions on the Book of Psalm.

Even Jesus, prayed the same prayers thrice on the night of His arrest.
"..remove this cup from me; yet not what I will, but what thou wilt"

As long as you're praying from your heart, and not as a hypocrite, God definitely listens to our prayers.

Ok, but we are not talking about praises. We are talking about repetitive PRAYING. Iba ang panalangin sa papuri.

Mat 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Mat 6:8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

bakit kailangan pang ulitin? eh alam na naman ng Dios bago mo pa sabihin?

here's the answer, from the bible.

Psa 115:4 Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands.
Psa 115:5 They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not:
Psa 115:6 They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not:

kaya naman pala eh, sa rebulto kasi nananalangin, kaya hindi talaga naririnig kaya inuulit.

[neigyl_noval]

diba kasagaran i lecture sa mga pari kai chance ug gugma? ngano dili man nila i apply sa ilahang organization ug establishments? kutob ra diay sila istorya?

True that priest lectures about chance and love during the homily. They also taught about discipline, responsibility, and anything that relates to the moral life and dignity of the person.

However, all organizations and establishments needs money for employees; (teachers, janitors, guards, etc) salary, school facilities and laboratory supplies, etc. Mahal man jud ang schools esp. private schools bisan pag-dili Catholic schools as long as advanced ilang educational services. The more expensive the fees, the more latest the services and supplies.

Pero, dili jud malikayan nga naa gihapoy corruption. Not all priests kay bootan. Naa puy badlongon just like a black sheep in a family.