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  1. #201

    Default Re: ***truth about jesus christ!


    Quote Originally Posted by d.a.m.a.s.o. View Post
    Jesus is also a God. He is the son of God the Father. He was with God the father even before the creation and Jesus is the Wisdom of God the father. But I NEVER said Jesus and God the Father are the same.

    My point is, Jesus is also God and not a man.
    Sure ka sir? You never implied that Jesus and God are one? What's this then?

    "Si Jesus ay Dios, Dios na nagkatawang-tao. Kailan siya nagkatawang tao? - Nong ipanganak siya ni Maria."

  2. #202

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    Naa na sad ning ing.ani nga thread. Daghan na sad maglalis.

    Kamo na bahala kinsa inyong tuhuan oi, og unsa inyong tuhuan mga dagko na mo.

  3. #203

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    I don't believe in preaching, I believe in witnessing.

    For Christians out there, I think its better if we could just check in ourselves how we witness to other people and how we practiced our faith, so that they would see Jesus in us. Dili kay magsigeg lalis. Maghimo og thread here and there.

    Let me just quote Mahatma Gandhi on this, "If only Christians practiced their faith, there will be no Hindus left in India.

  4. #204

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resurgence View Post
    This is because of your view that the Bible is the only authorized literature about God. And when did I belittle God's devotees? I HOLD THEM IN HIGH REGARD. No one is closer to God than his pure devotees. This where Jesus' DIVINITY lies. Not in POWER. You hold him divine because of his POWER. I DON'T. There is our difference. I don't take his power into account, ONLY HIS TEACHINGS. Call me a heretic if you will. I don't care and never will care. You belittle God's devotees? What I believe is not true? To YOU sir. Not to me and those that share my philosophy. You may think that since I don't believe that Jesus is divine because of his power, that Jesus is a blasphemer in my eyes. I laugh at your conclusion. God's devotees have the power to forgive sins, as long as the person who asks forgiveness is sincere and never does the same SINS again in the future. Who is in line with the Pharisees and Jewish high priests who crucified Jesus sir? Who glorifies Jesus' crucifiction as a "sacrifice" to save mankind? Certainly not me. I don't glorify Jesus' crucifiction, I even condemn it as the worst act that can be possibly done to God's dearest devotee. I ask you this now, answer me directly. Your answers have been nothing but word jugglery so far. Unbiblical? It was clearly STATED by Jesus himself to God that he FORGIVE those that crucified him because they had no idea what they were doing. What's so hard about understanding that? Now, who's unbiblical? Those that condemn Jesus' crucifiction and those that crucified him or those that glorify it? Well?
    Christ willingly died on the Cross for the salvation of Mankind.
    You are saying that Christ is selfish and fearful.
    Christ says he is willing to die for you and me and for all humanity. This is the Will of God and Christ because their love for mankind far exeeds any fear.
    Their utmost purpose is of very noble cause.

    He fervently prays, “Father, if thou art willing, let this cup pass from me; yet not my will, but thine, be done.” (Mt. 26:39; Mk. 14:36; Lk. 22:42; Jn. 18:1)
    You're missing the point here even I myself would be willing to die to save someone I love how much more the whole of mankind. If Im worthy

    You are belittling Christ christ for a coward being fearful of crucifiction?

    1 John 4:18
    There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.
    The penalty for sin is death so instead of us paying the penalty of Death for ourselves if we accept christ sacrifice on the Cross we are forgiven of our sins and made pure in the sight of God.
    "Surely He has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows. Yet we esteemed Him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted. But He was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities. The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, and by His stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray. We have turned, every one, to his own way. And the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.

    "Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him. He has put Him to grief. When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand. He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, for He shall bear their iniquities." (Isaiah 53:4-6, 10-11)

    "For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die; yet perhaps for a good man someone would even dare to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. " (Romans 5:6-
    Even Christians aren't afraid of death for Christ has overcome Death.

    "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live. And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die" (John 11:25-26.)
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 04-11-2011 at 06:08 AM.

  5. #205

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloGgerGurL View Post
    I don't believe in preaching, I believe in witnessing.

    For Christians out there, I think its better if we could just check in ourselves how we witness to other people and how we practiced our faith, so that they would see Jesus in us. Dili kay magsigeg lalis. Maghimo og thread here and there.

    Let me just quote Mahatma Gandhi on this, "If only Christians practiced their faith, there will be no Hindus left in India.
    We are just exchanging ideas. I can't just ignore subtle errors.
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 04-11-2011 at 06:50 AM.

  6. #206

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resurgence View Post
    Sure ka sir? You never implied that Jesus and God are one? What's this then?

    "Si Jesus ay Dios, Dios na nagkatawang-tao. Kailan siya nagkatawang tao? - Nong ipanganak siya ni Maria."
    Anong problema diyan? Si Jesus ay Dios. Dios na nagkatawang-tao.

    Nililito mo lang yung sarili mo kasi nga para sa'yo, si Jesus ay tao - which is not biblical.

    Di Jesus ay anak ng God the father. Therefore, Dios din siya. Dios ang Ama, at Dios din ang anak niyang si Kristo.

  7. #207

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    Quote Originally Posted by d.a.m.a.s.o. View Post
    Anong problema diyan? Si Jesus ay Dios. Dios na nagkatawang-tao.

    Nililito mo lang yung sarili mo kasi nga para sa'yo, si Jesus ay tao - which is not biblical.

    Di Jesus ay anak ng God the father. Therefore, Dios din siya. Dios ang Ama, at Dios din ang anak niyang si Kristo.

    So bakit may juice?

  8. #208

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    Quote Originally Posted by d.a.m.a.s.o. View Post
    Jesus is also a God. He is the son of God the Father. He was with God the father even before the creation and Jesus is the Wisdom of God the father. But I NEVER said Jesus and God the Father are the same.

    My point is, Jesus is also God and not a man.
    *Jesus is also God* and The Father is also God...2 Gods?

    wait...Jesus and Father are not the same? but you just said that they are both God?

  9. #209

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    Quote Originally Posted by malic_2 View Post
    *Jesus is also God* and The Father is also God...2 Gods?

    wait...Jesus and Father are not the same? but you just said that they are both God?
    please consider this logic malic!
    if you are used in 1+1+1=3 and not 1, consider that 1x1x1=1 and not 3 also.

    YouTube - The Law of Non-Contradiction and the Trinity

  10. #210

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    Quote Originally Posted by malic_2 View Post
    *Jesus is also God* and The Father is also God...2 Gods?

    wait...Jesus and Father are not the same? but you just said that they are both God?
    Ilan ang Dios = biblically maraming dios
    Psa 82:1 Ang Dios ay tumatayo sa kapisanan ng Dios; siya'y humahatol sa gitna ng mga dios.


    Ngayon sinong Dios ang dapat sambahin? Eh di ang AMA at ang ANAK.

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