***truth about jesus christ!

[malic_2]

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Prophets never came down from heaven.

Based on the Bible Either you believe Jesus as:
1. Liar
2. the true Messiah (which considers what Jesus are saying are all true)

Its oxy*****ic if you believe Jesus as a Prophet.

I believe Jesus as a prophet its in the bible right?

messiah is not necessarily a God.

[kit_cebu]

but sir in your previous post you said that Jesus is God,would not for that reason makes Jesus equal to the father?

nana pod boss malic.... nang-lubog napod.... hahaha

[malic_2]

nana pod boss malic.... nang-lubog napod.... hahaha

hahaha..di ko nimo pa istoryahon sir?

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

but sir in your previous post you said that Jesus is God,would not for that reason makes Jesus equal to the father?

Jesus is also a God. He is the son of God the Father. He was with God the father even before the creation and Jesus is the Wisdom of God the father. But I NEVER said Jesus and God the Father are the same.

My point is, Jesus is also God and not a man.

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

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[Kenshiro]

Hahay...did I say I believe that Jesus is a Prophet? wew. There is a big difference between what a prophet and a devotee of God is.
So you are saying that since Jesus is the only one "we" should believe in, then why do I have to go to church and listen to a rambling priest? He aint Christ. Anyone can claim that they believe in Jesus. But do THEY even follow his first and foremost commandment, "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind." (Matt. 22:37)? I don't think so. If he were God, he would have said directly that "Love ME with all your heart, all your mind, your entire being". But he didn't now, did he?

Are you sure that Prophets never came down from Heaven sir? I beg you to reconsider. How about John the Baptist then? Since no Prophet ever descends from Heaven, is he a fake then?

You are obviously undermining the capability and mercy of God's devotees. Even though they are in God's prescence, they DO FEEL PITY towards the people that are down here on this world, devoid of God-realization. That is why they descend, to establish the principles of God and destroy nescience or ignorance. A devotee of God feels mercy and is compassionate to all, not caring for himself/herself.

And once again about sacrifice. So basically, you think that a greater part of Jesus' mission was to die on the cross and redeem mankind through that? Then you are basically in league with Judas, Caiaphas and all those envious high priests. Then answer this. If that was Jesus' "purpose": to die on the cross and redeem "us" all, then why did he say "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do."(Luke 23:34)? Answer me directly, no word jugglery like priests and evangelists use. Why would Jesus Christ ask his Father to forgive those who crucified him if his crucifiction was a "sacrifice" to redeem mankind?

Jesus is the intercessor for us to God, This is to show that it is acceptable to God if we ask Christ to forgive our sins. Christ also forgives sin remember Mary Magdalene Jesus says your sins are forgiven and go forth sin no more. So if you don't believe Jesus is divine then Jesus is a blasphemer, this in line with pharisies who don't believe Christ can forgive sins. In fact this is one of their accusations for blasphemy against Jesus that they said that only God can forgive sin.

So are you one of these Pharisees who discredit the divinity of Jesus?

New Testament The New Testament broadens the concept of blasphemy to include actions against Christ and the church as the body of Christ. Jesus was regarded by the Jewish leaders as a blasphemer Himself (Mark 2:7). When tried by the Sanhedrin, Jesus not only claimed messianic dignity, but further claimed the supreme exalted status (Luke 22:69). Such a claim, according to the Sanhedrin, fit the charge of blasphemy and, therefore, deserved death (Matthew 26:65; Mark 14:64). However, according to the New Testament perspective, the real blasphemers were those who denied the messianic claims of Jesus and rejected His unity with the Father (Mark 15:29; Luke 22:65; Luke 23:39).

Divinity of Jesus further elaborated in this verse.

John 1:1 (NIV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

John 8:58 (NIV) "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"

You have an interesting denomination sir believing that Jesus was a mere devotee. But I'm afraid what you believe is not true and unbiblical.

The angel prophesied with mary to name her son emmanuel meaning "God with us"

[Tucking Fypo]

nganong maglalis man mo tanan ani uy.. dili tanan parehas ug experience.. kung ikaw nataw ka sa muslim dili pud ka motoo anang Christ same goes with christianity nga mo insist pud sila nga sayop na si Allah.
respeto lang para harmonious kay ma defeat inyong purpose nga mo simba para sa kaayohan unya ang inyong gisimbahan mismo dakong lalisonon tungod sa lain lain nga pagtoo

-bow

[STMRishi]

whatever your faith is, dont forget to give thanks to God and for his blessings. agnostic ko but mag pray sad ko

[WordofGod]

Jesus is also a God. He is the son of God the Father. He was with God the father even before the creation and Jesus is the Wisdom of God the father. But I NEVER said Jesus and God the Father are the same.

My point is, Jesus is also God and not a man.

Nice point bai! Jesus is both God and man. He is God coz no man like Jesus claim that he is and he proved it through his deeds! He is man in that he underwent suffering and persecution and felt pain like we normal human does. If we can only understand these 4 questions in life, origin, meaning, morality and destiny, then we can appreciate the complexity of the doctrine of the trinity and the cross of Jesus.

YouTube - Ravi Zacharias - The Existence of God - Jesus Revealing God

@malic:
sagdi lang ang mga christians bai kung kana ang ilang belief about the Godhead coz it satisfies our questions about the meaning and purpose of life!

[Resurgence]

Jesus is the intercessor for us to God, This is to show that it is acceptable to God if we ask Christ to forgive our sins. Christ also forgives sin remember Mary Magdalene Jesus says your sins are forgiven and go forth sin no more. So if you don't believe Jesus is divine then Jesus is a blasphemer, this in line with pharisies who don't believe Christ can forgive sins. In fact this is one of their accusations for blasphemy against Jesus that they said that only God can forgive sin.

So are you one of these Pharisees who discredit the divinity of Jesus?


Divinity of Jesus further elaborated in this verse.


You have an interesting denomination sir believing that Jesus was a mere devotee. But I'm afraid what you believe is not true and unbiblical.

The angel prophesied with mary to name her son emmanuel meaning "God with us"

This is because of your view that the Bible is the only authorized literature about God. And when did I belittle God's devotees? I HOLD THEM IN HIGH REGARD. No one is closer to God than his pure devotees. This where Jesus' DIVINITY lies. Not in POWER. You hold him divine because of his POWER. I DON'T. There is our difference. I don't take his power into account, ONLY HIS TEACHINGS. Call me a heretic if you will. I don't care and never will care. You belittle God's devotees? What I believe is not true? To YOU sir. Not to me and those that share my philosophy. You may think that since I don't believe that Jesus is divine because of his power, that Jesus is a blasphemer in my eyes. I laugh at your conclusion. God's devotees have the power to forgive sins, as long as the person who asks forgiveness is sincere and never does the same SINS again in the future. Who is in line with the Pharisees and Jewish high priests who crucified Jesus sir? Who glorifies Jesus' crucifiction as a "sacrifice" to save mankind? Certainly not me. I don't glorify Jesus' crucifiction, I even condemn it as the worst act that can be possibly done to God's dearest devotee. I ask you this now, answer me directly. Your answers have been nothing but word jugglery so far. Unbiblical? It was clearly STATED by Jesus himself to God that he FORGIVE those that crucified him because they had no idea what they were doing. What's so hard about understanding that? Now, who's unbiblical? Those that condemn Jesus' crucifiction and those that crucified him or those that glorify it? Well?