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  1. #171

    maayo pod nga ni gawas ni para ma expose pod nang mga baho sa pal attendants

  2. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by dmcebu01 View Post
    You can hardly see this sa PAL flight attendant especially from San Francisco to Manila, mga taas kaayu tan aw mga flight steward/ess I dunno but my understanding kay bantug dagko sila ug sweldo as a flight attendant ingon ana ilang pag tagad sa passengers they are wrong. Mga muchacha rana sila and they don't know mga baliknayan nanakay nag too sila sila nay piankata as nga position ug sweldo kay naa silas a airline industry mura rabag mga gwapa mga Landay nag mga nawong sa mga babaye compare to KOREAN.ASIANA, Cathay ug Singapore Airlines pwerti daghana nilag flight stewardess mo take care gyud nimo unsay imong gusto bisan naa pakas economy class. Sorry, nalang aning PAL sukad insik angpadagan ani wala nay ayo.
    PAL was even worse before Lucio Tan took over so I don't know what you're on about but you have no clue.. lol

    In fact Lucio Tan took over PAL because he wanted to save it, at the time his company took over it was already on the brink of bankruptcy and the Philippine government was desperate to find investors to restructure it. Unfortunately our stupid court system and retarded justice system decided to interfere and now there is a very real danger PAL will have to reverse its restructuring program (e.g., contractualization) and more laziness and bad service (as if that were possible) would ensue.

    Short version: The Unions killed PAL long before Lucio Tan owned it.

  3. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    PAL was even worse before Lucio Tan took over so I don't know what you're on about but you have no clue.. lol

    In fact Lucio Tan took over PAL because he wanted to save it, at the time his company took over it was already on the brink of bankruptcy and the Philippine government was desperate to find investors to restructure it. Unfortunately our stupid court system and retarded justice system decided to interfere and now there is a very real danger PAL will have to reverse its restructuring program (e.g., contractualization) and more laziness and bad service (as if that were possible) would ensue.

    Short version: The Unions killed PAL long before Lucio Tan owned it.
    The UNION. are only doing what they suppose to do, as a group of employees and citizens of the country they have their right under the constitution equal rights to all people. Contract is signed between union and management. Usbon nko bisan kinsa seguro modala sa PAL WA NI PADULONGAN. Si Congressman subra pod na ka arrogante, he neef to be disciplined or kick out of congress. As far as I know subra ang politics sa PAL ang upper management gamay nalang pinoy.

  4. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by dmcebu01 View Post
    The UNION. are only doing what they suppose to do, as a group of employees and citizens of the country they have their right under the constitution equal rights to all people. Contract is signed between union and management. Usbon nko bisan kinsa seguro modala sa PAL WA NI PADULONGAN. Si Congressman subra pod na ka arrogante, he neef to be disciplined or kick out of congress. As far as I know subra ang politics sa PAL ang upper management gamay nalang pinoy.
    trabaho sa PAL employee (FA) nga mo deal ug clase2x nga taw
    kini nga issue is PAL staff vs Customer
    na timingan lang nga congressman ila customer

    sa customer service industry... its a big "NO" to be rude sa imo customer (congressman)
    mao bitaw naa na sila para mo assist ug mo explain sa customers (congressman)

    ang PAL staff ang dapat ma disciplined or kick out for not doing her job properly

  5. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by dmcebu01 View Post
    The UNION. are only doing what they suppose to do, as a group of employees and citizens of the country they have their right under the constitution equal rights to all people. Contract is signed between union and management. Usbon nko bisan kinsa seguro modala sa PAL WA NI PADULONGAN. Si Congressman subra pod na ka arrogante, he neef to be disciplined or kick out of congress. As far as I know subra ang politics sa PAL ang upper management gamay nalang pinoy.
    Sakto ka, no matter kinsa pay modala sa PAL manira gihapon ning kompanyaha tungod sa UNION. I won't lament the demise of this company because I will take it as a lesson to those spoiled brat employees as to what will happen when the worker decides that he is the boss and answerable to nobody. I want this company to fail so these losers will be tossed to the streets with no job and no food to feed their family, then when they suffer maybe they will realize how idiot they were and that will make my day. I have no pity at all whatsoever for these self-entitled lazy losers.

  6. #176
    Quote Originally Posted by dmcebu01 View Post
    You can hardly see this sa PAL flight attendant especially from San Francisco to Manila, mga taas kaayu tan aw mga flight steward/ess I dunno but my understanding kay bantug dagko sila ug sweldo as a flight attendant ingon ana ilang pag tagad sa passengers they are wrong. Mga muchacha rana sila and they don't know mga baliknayan nanakay nag too sila sila nay piankata as nga position ug sweldo kay naa silas a airline industry mura rabag mga gwapa mga Landay nag mga nawong sa mga babaye compare to KOREAN.ASIANA, Cathay ug Singapore Airlines pwerti daghana nilag flight stewardess mo take care gyud nimo unsay imong gusto bisan naa pakas economy class. Sorry, nalang aning PAL sukad insik angpadagan ani wala nay ayo.

    Taas cla og position kay maglupad man ang airplane. Pro pareha ra cla sa janitor nga na promote from 3rd floor to 6th floor.

  7. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    Sakto ka, no matter kinsa pay modala sa PAL manira gihapon ning kompanyaha tungod sa UNION. I won't lament the demise of this company because I will take it as a lesson to those spoiled brat employees as to what will happen when the worker decides that he is the boss and answerable to nobody. I want this company to fail so these losers will be tossed to the streets with no job and no food to feed their family, then when they suffer maybe they will realize how idiot they were and that will make my day. I have no pity at all whatsoever for these self-entitled lazy losers.
    lisod mansab kong walay UNION magpaburot maayo ang tag iya sa ganansya ilang trabhador walay uminto ang sweldo? unsa naman lang ang working environment sa mga employee? Pareha aning ilang issue force retirement at the age of 55 sa steward/ess compare sa ABROAD kotub 67.............fair ni para ninyo? then sweldo sa uabng nasud ang sweward/ess mo abut ug $55,000 a year sa PAL swerte sab kong kaabut silag $25,000 a year...what do u think UNION or wala?

  8. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by dmcebu01 View Post
    lisod mansab kong walay UNION magpaburot maayo ang tag iya sa ganansya ilang trabhador walay uminto ang sweldo? unsa naman lang ang working environment sa mga employee? Pareha aning ilang issue force retirement at the age of 55 sa steward/ess compare sa ABROAD kotub 67.............fair ni para ninyo? then sweldo sa uabng nasud ang sweward/ess mo abut ug $55,000 a year sa PAL swerte sab kong kaabut silag $25,000 a year...what do u think UNION or wala?
    mao bitaw nag negosyo aron mangwarta
    kung gusto sila dako nga sweldo.. why not apply sa lain company.. wala baya sila pugsa sa PAL nga mo trabaho sa ila company
    kanang union sa PAL nag pa dako lang jud na sa issue, in the 1st place ang pal employee nga nag reklamo kai klaro wala ni gi buhat iya trabaho sa pag deal sa situation

  9. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by dmcebu01 View Post
    lisod mansab kong walay UNION magpaburot maayo ang tag iya sa ganansya ilang trabhador walay uminto ang sweldo? unsa naman lang ang working environment sa mga employee? Pareha aning ilang issue force retirement at the age of 55 sa steward/ess compare sa ABROAD kotub 67.............fair ni para ninyo? then sweldo sa uabng nasud ang sweward/ess mo abut ug $55,000 a year sa PAL swerte sab kong kaabut silag $25,000 a year...what do u think UNION or wala?
    It's fair because if the UNION and its members don't like it they can leave and find another job. Get it? Nobody is holding a gun to their head to keep working at PAL. Don't like the working environment? Go work for someone else. Don't like being forced to retire at 55? Go work for someone else. Don't like it that you aren't earning $55,000 a year. Go abroad and work for a foreign airline. It's a free country, we have options. If you're not happy, LEAVE.

  10. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    It's fair because if the UNION and its members don't like it they can leave and find another job. Get it? Nobody is holding a gun to their head to keep working at PAL. Don't like the working environment? Go work for someone else. Don't like being forced to retire at 55? Go work for someone else. Don't like it that you aren't earning $55,000 a year. Go abroad and work for a foreign airline. It's a free country, we have options. If you're not happy, LEAVE.
    Kong mao nay imong opinion mo respect ko kay we have freedom of speech. UNION is the only organization mo protect sa mga workers kay kong walay mo protekta sa mga workers interest daghan mga violations buhaton sa mga tagiya sa kompanya ug sila magpahimolos sa ilang ganansya unya ang mga trabhador mag antus kay walay omento sa sweldo for years ug walay saktu benefits like health benefits ug walay seniority sa ilang trabahu an, pun an pas daghang descrimination pareho sa pagpalagput sa empleyado anytime kong gusto ang kompanya. Maayo sab ning UNION para magkingangayun ang pagpadagan sa NEGOSYO ug maka share sa ganansya ang kompanya. Mga tawo ni pile ug trabaho sa PAL kay sa una stable ni nga COMPANY daghan ug benefits tungod sa contract between the UNION ug ang MANAGEMENT ug kong maayo silag position ngano mobalhin man? Problema nana sa management kong makig sabut sabut sa UNION ug depende sab ans UNION makigsabutsabut sa Management pero ang clientelle di gyud unta usbon ug ang ilang service dili ma compromise. Ang mga steward/ess tarongun gyud nila ilang pasahero ug atiman kay mao nay naka sweldo nila ang mga tawo revenue sa plane tickets ug katung Congressman I think he needs to apologize to the public.

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