Police Harrasment??

[keyran]

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tsaar... pa caps jud ang pangan...

honestly.... wa koi paki bisag presidente pana siya sa Universal Traffics Association.

as what I can see from the rest of the story. It's in the subdivision. (private wai labot ang citom diha) and also... there were no TRAFFIC SIGNS of one way..... just cars that are parked the opposite way....

my question nimu bai.... kung ikaw naa sa lugar sa pulis? dili kuno ka makig lalis nga ingon ana?

one sided rapud kaau moh..... abi ang ni reklamu diri ang dili pulis.... puros lang mo post

"nga maayo nang pulis ipa barang.... kai hambugero....."

You didn't know the WHOLE STORY yet..... although... ang PAGSHAGIT2x... ug pang HAMBOG nga pulis siya.... SUpak koh ana.... (dili jud maayo...)

but that's what SOME citizens do... when they're at the verge of anger diba?? Citizen pud baya tong pulisa.....

Santos rapud kaau mo kung wala moi inyong boiling point....

bro..murag ikaw maoy wala mag subay sa gisulti sa TS..ingon TS nga almost 10 years na sila diha sa subdivision..and bisag subdivision na sila diha.they have there own by laws regarding one way, traffic regulation etc. .,,sa akong nabasa sa gi sulti sa TS..naa silay nakuha nga MEMO gikan sa ilang suddivision admin nga one way gyud to ang dalan. ug bay,,ang PULIS NAGPUYO RA SAD AT the same subdivision..pulis siya ..i will not buy his statement kung moingon siya nga wala siya kahibalo nga one way.. sa akong kaugalingon pag comment akong gibase sa statement nga gislulti sa TS..so ning comment ra sad ko kung unsa ako angay e react... mao na and nothing else...:

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

^ tinuod lagi nga it could mean police or the entire police force, but this is where the posters responsibility ends and your (and other readers) responsibility begins. If you see a subject heading with a general term like that, between two interpretations, one reasonable and one absurd, why would you choose to interpret it to be something absurd and unbelievable? Don't you think it's absurd to conclude that the entire police organization is harassing a single individual? Not only is it absurd, it's seemingly impossible so what I'm saying is there's really only one reasonable way to interpret the subject heading.

I could really care less because I wasnt involved in it directly but sometimes we have to make a stand specially to the people who we call with all kinds of things , belittle ,worst curse and still would end up asking assistance from them , the POLICEMAN himself/herself .

I know people who wears in uniform so proud and looks up high . Pwerting daghana and di lang ka 1 or 2 kabuok . That is unfair to them .

To relate your reply , indeed it is possible kay it doesnt take the whole force to be accused of being or commiting HARASSMENT . Maski a station who harasses you can already represent the force because they are in uniform , violated what they swore into and most of all , abused the authority they were bestowied with as a law enforcer yet , to empahsized the TS givens of the story , none of the above were aforementioned . He ( policeman ) declined nor never identified himself , not even in the uniform and in a private vehicle in a private place .

@KEYRAN ...

Are you lecturing me about RESPECT ? You never earned my RESPECT yet here in the forums and here you are preaching it ? Asa diay na part na gi DISRESPECT nako ang TS ?

@BURDAGUL ...

Ug di pod ka bright kaayo mo hinngalan ug tao na wala diay ka kaila then why take chances sa name if you dont know these people directly and indirectly ? Sakto ka , pero sayop pod ka . Bata ka ako tang-an na .

By the way ... sa kadtong gusto makahibalo sa score about DAMAGES ... automatic na ang NAKABANGGA ang mo shoulder sa expenses . Kung naka cause sa BANGGA tungod kay ni violate traffic laws/signs ... igo ra na issuhan ug ticket in the case if caught in the act .

Mangutana ko niom TS ... unsay update na kaso ninyo ? Murag walay padungan jud na , unless wala lang nimo na state s astory nimo , wala man imo gi mention pod na naay POLICE BLOTTER ang incident that very moment and walay sketching nahitabo from a TAFFIC ENFORCER sa scene of the incident pero in your case or your father's , ang police man ang alanganin , ang concern lang ninyo is ang harassement .

[AntitaniC]

@keyran....

ako nalang eh bold letters ang ge storya nila.... coz I was just basing my observations according to the post.... I didn't know you have some more infos regarding about the so called memos that was sent to you.....

OT: si TS naputlan ug internet sa balay... will be reconnected after 48 hours, sorry...

update on this post...

(naa ko sulod sa balay natulog when this incident happened, so everything I know has just been relayed to me by the TS, ako na nag-organize sa events kay ako ra may kalma ug utok aning panghitaboa)

-- add on sa original post, when the police confronted daddy that night of the incident, they went to the subdivision's home owners vice president to talk it out...He called daddy a liar kay wala kunoy one way nga sign sa dalan sa sulod sa subdivision, then he became angry when he was told nga ang dalan "one way" kay it was agreed upon by the home owners, and got angrier when daddy pointed out nga tanan sakyanan nga nakapark roadside is facing one way which makes it obvious nga one way jud ang dalan...

-- gitan-aw ni daddy ang damages sa sakyanan niya, naa tuod scratch sa bumper, the police insisted "akong sakyanan akong gi-ampingan", and like the first post stated "my dad also said that our car needs repairs too because of the same damage", nireply man ang pulis nga "nya bati man na imong sakyanan", daddy replied "wag ka namang ganyan sir"... (my thoughts on this, di man abi pajero iyang sakyanan unya amo lite ace lang nga medyo gubaon na naa siya'y right muingon ato..)

-- daddy was asking for his name and the only thing he could present was his driver's license but he would never read out his name aloud... daddy said "eh hindi ko makita malabo ang mata ko" the pulis said "malabo ang mata mo tapos nag-drive ka?" then daddy pointed out na he was farsighted so he could drive fine but he could not read small letters especially that it was dark outside...

-- mommy was on the phone with another police relative asking for advise, she went out of the house while daddy and the policeman was talking and said "daddy, wag mong ibigay ang licensya mo" then she asked the police "sino ka, at saan ka naka-assign?" the police walked out without answering...


anyway, the next day, si daddy naka receive us summon sa Traffic Management Group...
then ang neighbor who claimed to be a police, is really a police, dili lang ko mu name names... (Basta inspector ni siya nga naka-assign sa mandaue)
Upon consulting a lawyer friend, nagfile ug kaso sila daddy sa fiscal, police brutality ang grounds man siguro, coz what the police did that night did not follow due process especially that he was not in uniform and he was "literally shouting" that even the other neighbors heard the commotion.. only then nga nahibaw-an nga naa sad diay lain nga mga pending nga kaso ang kato nga pulis... so the morning the following day, daddy went to the home owners association to ask for the memo nga one way jud tong dalana... but the current secretary could no longer produce the file that was dated years back kay bag-o na daw ang administration... (family lived in this subdivision for over 10 yrs now and traffic has always been the same sa ana nga street)... found out nga nag-rent ra diay ug balay diha ang pulis coz duol man ang subdivision sa iya workplace mao siguro wala siya kahibaw sa traffic rules)

Then january 11 sa afternoon, they went to see him to settle the case... He was asking for payment sa damages
or he would file a case nga hit and run kang daddy...

-- taasa na sa akong post ui... can i let the TS just finish the story ig balik sa amo internet ugma?

first bold phrases....

It was never clarified if there was a One Way Sign or not..... you can't impose a warning if you can't provide any implementation of a warning sign. like the traffic officer can't apprehend you for NO U TURN turn if there's no u turn sign... ( it's a subdivision and you can't expect all people that will enter there will directly or immediately know the rules.... ) what about the guests then?


next is.... the secretary can't produce any papers about the so called implementation... so this rules will just fall into a consensus rule.... no proper implementation..... how would you expect a person to follow such rules if ingon ana??

TS mentioned starting with family...... who's family? the police? or the ts family? I didn't get that part.... but was added with...

found out nga nag-rent ra diay ug balay diha ang pulis coz duol man ang subdivision sa iya workplace mao siguro wala siya kahibaw sa traffic rules)

so that means the police is not local.... but can be considered as guest also... because he knew nothing about the rules.. and argued about it....

considering we are in court right now.. and we're just basing our decisions on the information they provide to us....

and you'll be the judge? who do you think has a reasonable statement?

a traffic rule that has no grounds? or a civilian/police that knows nothing of any existing claimed rules?

this is just my point.....


and to add more about springfields statement. murag ang ge push through lang jud ninyo ang harassment....

my question is...... kung civilian to ang nag shagit2x nga sayop ang father sa TS eh kiha kaha nila ug Civilian Harassment?
Wala man kaha siya nanutok ug pusil? wala mang physical assualt?

How can you win such claims?

[keyran]

@keyran....

ako nalang eh bold letters ang ge storya nila.... coz I was just basing my observations according to the post.... I didn't know you have some more infos regarding about the so called memos that was sent to you.....




first bold phrases....

It was never clarified if there was a One Way Sign or not..... you can't impose a warning if you can't provide any implementation of a warning sign. like the traffic officer can't apprehend you for NO U TURN turn if there's no u turn sign... ( it's a subdivision and you can't expect all people that will enter their will directly know the rules.... ) what about the guests then?


next is.... the secretary can't produce any papers about the so called implementation... so this rules will just fall into a consensus rule.... no proper implementation..... how would you expect a person to follow such rules if ingon ana??

TS mentioned starting with family...... who's family? the police? or the ts family? I didn't get that part.... but was added with...



so that means the police is not local.... but can be considered as guest also... because he knew nothing about the rules.. and argued about it....

considering we are in court right now.. and we're just basing our decisions on the information they provide to us....

and you'll be the judge? who do you think has a reasonable statement?

a traffic rule that has no grounds? or a civilian/police that knows nothing of any existing claimed rules?

this is just my point.....

bro cool lang..wala ta sa court diri..ayaw pag act as you are lawyer..

kay sama sa akong gi sulti may reaction is only base to what the TS told us..mao rana and nothing else... kung ato gyud i dig ang real story..wala tay mahimo kay ang TS ra naka hibalo what the truth..

so dili nalang ta mag lalis kay wala tay makuha ani..

ako lang gikahibulngan..why affected man kaayo ka??
ok ra ka..

[Devian]

on the lighter side...i just wonder why the work of the person have to be brought into this incident?

what if it is like this...

"Engr ko bay, ambi imo lisensya!"

[keyran]

@KEYRAN ...

Are you lecturing me about RESPECT ? You never earned my RESPECT yet here in the forums and here you are preaching it ? Asa diay na part na gi DISRESPECT nako ang TS ?

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akong gi sulti bro respect each opinion..wala ko magsulti nga imong gi desrespect ang TS..

Akong pasabot..kung mao na imong panglantaw or pagsabot sa statement sa TS, so be it..kay lahi man sad among pag sabot..so ayaw e force nga maka mislead ang title kay wala man me ma mislead ..


mao na bro..wala koy lain tumong..salamat ...

[AntitaniC]

bro cool lang..wala ta sa court diri..ayaw pag act as you are lawyer..

kay sama sa akong gi sulti may reaction is only base to what the TS told us..mao rana and nothing else... kung ato gyud i dig ang real story..wala tay mahimo kay ang TS ra naka hibalo what the truth..

so dili nalang ta mag lalis kay wala tay makuha ani..

ako lang gikahibulngan..why affected man kaayo ka??
ok ra ka..

lol acting as a lawyer na d.i ning ingon ani? we're just exchanging opinions mao bitaw ni ana ko... "kung naa ta sa court" coz I know wala....

and how sure are you affected koh ug na highblood nah? kai wala ko nag butang ug smileys? LOL...

this discussion is nothing to me..... I'm not affected...

I'm just explaining the other side of the story.... coz seems like some people are just judging without knowing both sides.....

why did you quote my post first? ikaw siguro affected sah? nyahahahaha

[keyran]

I'm just explaining the other side of the story.... coz seems like some people are just judging without knowing both sides....:

are you telling us na , you know the other side of story , story behind the police officer side...

ah ,,, so related diay ka sa police officer nga topic nato diri.

if not ,,,, so why are you explaining that side of police officer where in wala man ka didto during the incident.. we are only talking about what the TS told us...


pag klaro kuno bro...explain to us..

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

akong gi sulti bro respect each opinion..wala ko magsulti nga imong gi desrespect ang TS..

In every action , there is a reaction and sometimes , a SPECULATED VIOLENT REACTION .

If you tell me to RESPECT the TS opinion , what does that suggest ? That DISRESPECTED him right ? Kay if I DISRESPECTED the TS then there is no reason for you to talk about RESPECT .

Akong pasabot..kung mao na imong panglantaw or pagsabot sa statement sa TS, so be it..kay lahi man sad among pag sabot..so ayaw e force nga maka mislead ang title kay wala man me ma mislead ..


mao na bro..wala koy lain tumong..salamat ...

Ngano ma lagpas man kaayo ka ? I was referring to the TS all the time unya ikaw ang affected pod kaayo ? UNless you have the same mindsetting of GENERALIZING things then I would understand . Intendies na ?

By the way , I am not forcing or shoving it down to the TS throat kay if I did , I already edited the title myself faster than you can say your username . I am also explaining and emphasizing my own opinion here , kung karon di nimo madawat , then its you who needs to learn how to RESPECT .

[AntitaniC]

are you telling us na , you know the other side of story , story behind the police officer side...

ah ,,, so related diay ka sa police officer nga topic nato diri.

Nope.... never said anything about that.... ikaw ra gani nag ingon2x ngara nga kibaw kas memo... (or claiming to be..)
LOL.... wa man gani ko kaila sa pangan... nyahahaha taka lang jud kag assume uy...

if not ,,,, so why are you explaining that side of police officer where in wala man ka didto during the incident.. we are only talking about what the TS told us...


pag klaro kuno bro...explain to us..

exactly..... unsa di nah akong ge pang bold? akoa d.i nang post kapamilya man siguro nas TS..
naa d.i koi ge himung storya? unsa d.i? bwahahaha

wa nalang jud kai lain ma storya... mag pinilosopo nalang..... nyahahaha