What hinders Filipinos from acquiring Prosperity?

[fingolfin]

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Well according to Jaime Zobel De Ayala's speech in the last Ad Congress... The foreign investors and businessmen's main problem with the Philippines is not corruption or political instability but the Filipinos' work ethic... According to him Filipinos are known to call in sick for the shallowest of reasons, cge lang ug absent .. Filipinos are the epitome of the saying "While the cat is away the mouse will play", which means Filipinos need to be constantly supervised in order to work, kinahanglan bantayan gyud.... Filipinos, time management and efficiency does not belong in the same sentence...

... bwehehe. sad but true. maybe some of our filipino comrades have developed this "nice" trait in their grade school years, remember RECESS period?? hehe.

.. seriously, what do students look forward to?? holidays = no class. what do employees look forward to?? holidays = no work. Filipino work ethics is not that concrete.

[jugs_06]

.. seriously, what do students look forward to?? holidays = no class. what do employees look forward to?? holidays = no work. Filipino work ethics is not that concrete.

sadly, it goes the same in the U.S..

[*dudes*]

Well according to Jaime Zobel De Ayala's speech in the last Ad Congress... The foreign investors and businessmen's main problem with the Philippines is not corruption or political instability but the Filipinos' work ethic... According to him Filipinos are known to call in sick for the shallowest of reasons, cge lang ug absent .. Filipinos are the epitome of the saying "While the cat is away the mouse will play", which means Filipinos need to be constantly supervised in order to work, kinahanglan bantayan gyud.... Filipinos, time management and efficiency does not belong in the same sentence...


As for me, I have always believed that corruption is not the disease but a symptom.... Laziness is the disease... Ganahan dayun mo asenso without sweating it, mao na mangawat na lng, mangurakot. People will always say na walay motivation ang Pinoy kay gamay ra sweldo, puol ang trabaho, walay snacks, nag-ulan, nimahal ang softdrinks blah blah blah, but I believe that this, as usual, is just an excuse... If there is one thing Filipinos have mastered, then it is the mastery of making up excuses... Cge lng ta himo ug excuse bsag asa... Cge lang naay i-blame.... Thats why I admire Ayala's frankness... Kay puol na paminawon ang mga businessmen na keynote speakers who constantly "patronize us"... Telling us hardworking kuno kaayo ta, nindot kuno kaayo ang Filipino spirit, that we are well respected and praised all over the world (really? Mao na mura nalang tag iro sa laing nasud?)... Nakapait baya natung Pinoy kay kung naay mo praise nato, tuo dayun ta... Di dayun ta kibaw na gi-syat ra di-ay ta sa taro.... Mao na mu-gara dayun...

well, its gud that we filipinos are hardworking, but we work hard to make our employers rich, we make other nation rich, in reality - being employed will not make us rich, no matter what we do and how much effort we spend in our job the one that will benefit at the end is our employee

well, being employed will sustain us with our daily needs but with regards to our future retirement or financial plan, our job will not support us

instead of pouring out our whole hearted effort for employment, why we start building our own company, we could start little - learn how to be entrepreneur, dont be afraid to try and fail coz its part of learning, they are many resources that will be provided once we start to decide and take action to do our own business or as what Robert Kiyosaki said "minding our own business[br]Posted on: August 16, 2006, 08:27:55 AM_________________________________________________

no other reason, click that link....

https://www.istorya.net/forums/index.php?topic=85520.0

Impeachment?! - for me, its part of the many reason why we are not prospering, they are many factors that we need to consider - one is our government, then with ourselves as well.

It takes the leadership of our government that would lead filipinos to prosperity and also an action in our part, a decision in our part to make ourself rich.

Well, in the Philippine setting, our government is rationing help to the poor but putting our hope to our government to make us rich is unreasonable. Its our job to make ourself rich.

[uk_dekoy]

My 2 cent opinion on why its very tedious for Pinoys to prosper. These are the following,
to wit;

(1) That we Filipinos are damaged culture,
considering the multi-foreign
influences that we have- Malay, Chinese, Spanish,
and the Americans.
(2) That as an archepelagic nation, we have
become fragmented in
terms of social, economic, culture and ethnic
origin.
(3) That our sense of Nationalism is distorted
imminent with our being
colonial minded. Mahilig tayo sa branded ug
stateside nga butang.
(4) That our country is very highly influenced by
external pressures
such as IMF and other debtor’s austerity
measures, open trade, and most especially,
the US whose neo-colonialization is still very
evident.
(5) That We are not a tax-driven country. We even
abhor
taxes yet we expect more from the government in
terms of services, pensions and
loans. Our taxation policies have a lot of flaws. We
make a lot of exemptions like no
tax impose for churches, no tax impose on
schools, charitable institutions and the
like.
(6) That, most often than not, government programs
are always
contradicted. We put more emphasis on
contradiction than conformation at
katakot takot na argumento and dadaanan bago
mapasa ang isang bill.
(7) That generally, we are driven more on politics
than economics.
( That psychologically, most Filipinos are
pessimistic. We take pleasure
in grandeurizing other peoples mistakes. And yet
its hard for us to correct our own
faults.

However, hope is not that far. Probably, it’s a good
start if we think of more WE as Filipinos and not
ME as a selfish individual.

[*dudes*]

My 2 cent opinion on why its very tedious for Pinoys to prosper. These are the following,
to wit;

(1) That we Filipinos are damaged culture,
considering the multi-foreign
influences that we have- Malay, Chinese, Spanish,
and the Americans.
(2) That as an archepelagic nation, we have
become fragmented in
terms of social, economic, culture and ethnic
origin.
(3) That our sense of Nationalism is distorted
imminent with our being
colonial minded. Mahilig tayo sa branded ug
stateside nga butang.
(4) That our country is very highly influenced by
external pressures
such as IMF and other debtor’s austerity
measures, open trade, and most especially,
the US whose neo-colonialization is still very
evident.
(5) That We are not a tax-driven country. We even
abhor
taxes yet we expect more from the government in
terms of services, pensions and
loans. Our taxation policies have a lot of flaws. We
make a lot of exemptions like no
tax impose for churches, no tax impose on
schools, charitable institutions and the
like.
(6) That, most often than not, government programs
are always
contradicted. We put more emphasis on
contradiction than conformation at
katakot takot na argumento and dadaanan bago
mapasa ang isang bill.
(7) That generally, we are driven more on politics
than economics.
( That psychologically, most Filipinos are
pessimistic. We take pleasure
in grandeurizing other peoples mistakes. And yet
its hard for us to correct our own
faults.

However, hope is not that far. Probably, it’s a good
start if we think of more WE as Filipinos and not
ME as a selfish individual.

gud point

change will start form us. ü

[socevans]

Well, I agree with most points raised here. Let me a add my two cents worth of opinion.

The philippines, despite our profession of free trade and open economy, is very much closed as far as foreigners doing business in the country is concerned. The country's landholding elite and the leftist groups (oops, Im opening a controversy here) are strange bedfellows in successfully resisting foreign investment (the real ones) and more foreign involvement in the nation's economy. There is strong resistance in land and property ownership (it's severely curtailed in the Cory constitution, anyway), in professional practice, in retail and other industry sectors, in labor laws and may other instances.

Opening of the economy (together with stable and consistent business policies) is what precisely what countries like Singapore, Hong Kong, Malaysia and Thailand did to be progressive (Of course, they also addressed problems of corruption, weak infrastructure, law enforcement etc.). Even China and Vietnam are progressing more than us. Officially still communist countries, yet they open their economies to huge capitalist ventures, and look at them now. Everybody worth their pants are there, and what the Philippines receive are orts and scraps. You cannot find any example of a restricted country in the whole world that progressed. Cuba? Myanmar? where?

We must admit we lack capital needed to create jobs. We need foreign capital. We need jobs especially for drop-outs and who has minimal skills, and foreign investments looking for low-cost environment can provide them. Call centers and the like may provide jobs to some people with special skills but these are very selective. You cannot expect a landless farmer or even his children to get jobs from them. yet these are the people who come and stay in the cities by the thousands. Where do they go? to the slums!

Corruption, indolence, and lack of education. Yes, they are huge problems that must be addressed head on. But providing jobs through investments is the key.

[garyg]

Dalawa lang yan:
1. WALANG DISIPLINA
2. WALANG RESPETO SA KAPWA PILIPINO

[garyg]

Well according to Jaime Zobel De Ayala's speech in the last Ad Congress... The foreign investors and businessmen's main problem with the Philippines is not corruption or political instability but the Filipinos' work ethic... According to him Filipinos are known to call in sick for the shallowest of reasons, cge lang ug absent .. Filipinos are the epitome of the saying "While the cat is away the mouse will play", which means Filipinos need to be constantly supervised in order to work, kinahanglan bantayan gyud.... Filipinos, time management and efficiency does not belong in the same sentence...


As for me, I have always believed that corruption is not the disease but a symptom.... Laziness is the disease... Ganahan dayun mo asenso without sweating it, mao na mangawat na lng, mangurakot. People will always say na walay motivation ang Pinoy kay gamay ra sweldo, puol ang trabaho, walay snacks, nag-ulan, nimahal ang softdrinks blah blah blah, but I believe that this, as usual, is just an excuse... If there is one thing Filipinos have mastered, then it is the mastery of making up excuses... Cge lng ta himo ug excuse bsag asa... Cge lang naay i-blame.... Thats why I admire Ayala's frankness... Kay puol na paminawon ang mga businessmen na keynote speakers who constantly "patronize us"... Telling us hardworking kuno kaayo ta, nindot kuno kaayo ang Filipino spirit, that we are well respected and praised all over the world (really? Mao na mura nalang tag iro sa laing nasud?)... Nakapait baya natung Pinoy kay kung naay mo praise nato, tuo dayun ta... Di dayun ta kibaw na gi-syat ra di-ay ta sa taro.... Mao na mu-gara dayun...

Well, I don't beleive that. I've seen and worked with Americans and they too plays when the cat is away. They are even more lazy than us. They even go home earlier from work than Filipinos. And they don't want to work on 3 D's (difficult, dirty, or dangerous jobs). And who does it for them- its the Filipinos. Maybe Zobel is just trying to degrade the Filipinos. But yes I accept that Filipinos are not productive because they don't love their own countrymen. Because they like to buy imported than locally manufactured. Yes, Filipinos are also undisciplined. And they are short sighted too. BUT WE ARE NEVER LAZY OR INCOMPETENT.

[herzabarJR]

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Well, I don't beleive that. I've seen and worked with Americans and they too plays when the cat is away. They are even more lazy than us. They even go home earlier from work than Filipinos. And they don't want to work on 3 D's (difficult, dirty, or dangerous jobs). And who does it for them- its the Filipinos. Maybe Zobel is just trying to degrade the Filipinos. But yes I accept that Filipinos are not productive because they don't love their own countrymen. Because they like to buy imported than locally manufactured. Yes, Filipinos are also undisciplined. And they are short sighted too. BUT WE ARE NEVER LAZY OR INCOMPETENT.

Not to insult your intelligence but I think you dont have a clue as to what Jaime Zobel De Ayala was talking about. Why would Jaime Zobel De Ayala degrade Filipinos when he is a "proud" Filipino of Spanish descent? Do you actually believe a guy as highly as accomplished as him will waste his time degrading people like us? Dili nana cya modagi-not ug 25 cents pre... Ayala has done more to the upliftment of Filipino Culture than any of us here in Istorya combined.. Do you have any clue as to what his foundations have done to uplift and make Filipino Culture known worldwide? Will there be a FERNANDO AMORSOLO without the Ayalas? Who was "ALLOWED" to design a SWATCH WATCH that was INSPIRED by a FILIPINO FLAG? Yeah he was allowed by Swatch because he is an AYALA and I doubt Swatch will allow people like us to do that. Remember our Centennial Celebration? Who was the biggest contributor to that 100th Filipino Independence Celebration? Do you think Ayala will go through all of these just so that he can DEGRADE FILIPINOS LATER??

To make things clear for you. Jaime Zobel De Ayala said the foreign investors and businessmen's main problem is the Filipino Work Ethic that means THAT IS THE CONCERN OF THE FOREIGN INVESTORS and BUSINESSMEN and NOT Jaime Zobel De Ayala's. THIS IS PROBABLY WHAT THE FOREIGNERS BROUGHT UP IN THEIR DISCUSSION. So it does not matter what he thinks, what we here think, because its the FOREIGNERS' OPINION. Ayala just shared what he encountered with us and now you are trying to make him a VILLAIN? I doubt any of us here has interacted more with Big Foreign Businessmen and investors than Jaime Zobel De Ayala. Remember the Ayalas have now taken an interest in BPO. I know Jaime's word is NOT the BIBLE but I would take his word anyday than some fellow istoryan with regards to the topic discussed... No offense to people in here.

No offense again, but its funny when people here say they agree or disagree with Jaime Zobel when in fact Jaime Zobel did not EVEN GIVE AN OPINION... He just "SHARED" WHAT HE EXPERIENCED... So he does not need OR EVER NEED any validation from us. You dont agree or disagree with experience but you "DIFFER" WITH EXPERIENCE... You agree or disagree with OPINION. But before we differ with what he experienced, how many of us have just been through a meeting with Foreign CEOs, COOs, CAOs, lately? Any of us just went through mergers and acquisitions worth millions or billions of $? So can any of us here really "differ" with him?

With regards to Americans being lazy, well I tend to agree with you in some fields "especially right now"... I too have an experience working with them, but probably not as too extensive than you, as my whole family was "there" for roughly 4 years during the Martial Law years. Last time I was there was 2002 and yeah there are welfare bums.
Its funny that you described people who built the Hoover Dam, Golden Gate, Holland Tunnel, etc. as people who are LAZY and AFRAID to do the 3Ds... Yeah you can say that many of them dont do it right now and let "cheap" 3rd world wetbacks do the job...
But the thing is, they can "afford" to do that right now..... BUT CAN WE FILIPINOS CONSIDERING OUR SITUATION RIGHT NOW AFFORD TO DO SO?
But are you also saying the people working in Boston's Big Dig Project right now are not Americans but Filipinos

To lighten up the topic.. You said they LET FILIPINOS DO THE DIRTY, DIFFICULT, DANGEROUS JOBS.... Going to the MOON is NEITHER EASY, CLEAN OR SAFE, so you mean the first man on the moon is a FILIPINO Hehehe J/K.

[cebugdev]

What hinders Filipino from prospering? <-- the mindset mismo na ang filipino dli mo prosper mao na naka hinder nato!
*imagine 5 years ago pila ka taw ang naay cellphone? gamay ra dba?
*imagine 5 years ago gamay ra na taw ang naay accessed sa net sa ilang balay?
*imagine pila ang dollar sa una? ayaw ingna na tungod to sa president ni bagsak ang value sa dollar-peso? dli lang bya kita ang affected ato. pero na bawi man dba from 56-51?
*imagine kng wlay taw na nag cgeg reklamo sa kalsada? dba daghan na unta ta ug investor karn then daghan unta na generate na jobs?
*imagine the improvement of cebu for the past years?
*imagine pila kabouk municipality ang na convert into city kay na qualified na cla sa budget?

one again the quote

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

(just my 2 cents kay wla ko mabuhat dri sa office) hehehehe