MERGED: All About RP-US Mutual Defense Treaty/ VFA-MLSA and Related Issues

[Inquisitor]

Phil is like vietnam. other countries will try to control phil but they cant succeed. thats why US lost to vietnam.

US didnt lost in vietnam in military aspect. On January 1968 the North send the Bulk of its troops to attack 100 cities in the south. By the end of the city battles 37,000 Vietcong were killed while only 2,500 American soldiers were killed. The north should have lost the war if the US countered attacked but with the growing public demand to stop the war(in the US, due to the video footage of Vietcong soldiers[dead ones] inside the US embasy). The US government pulled the plug, and withdrawn US troops in Vietnam.

[alt_tab]

im not worried about a nuclear accident sa pilipinas. im more concerned kung mao na mahimong target sa mga communists or sa mga terrorists.

[Inquisitor]

Wait about the contitution. Are you people talking about "Section 8. The Philippines, consistent with the national interest, adopts and pursues a policy of freedom from nuclear weapons in its territory.".

Hmm. The constitution doesnt bar us from having Nuclear Powerplants. The submarine in question is no different from the Standard Nuclear Power Plant. The issue here is that if the presence of foreign troops in the philippines constitutional. Is the presence Nuclear Sub part of the VFA? If it is, then it's constitutional. If not, then it's not. Its just that simple.

Duh.. conspiracy theories..

[Inquisitor]

its nuclear sub.. gidili na sa atong nasud.. DFA should file a protest againts the US. disrespecting our constitution. tsk tsk tsk

oi did you miss polsci nga mga subj mga brad? gidili tanan nuclear powered sa atong nasud. ma-ally or dili. d mo dapat malipay ana, mura ta gitapakan sa nawong ana. sakto lng ng mag apil2x sa gubat basta naa sa contrata, pero dis is plain stupidity sa ato gobyerno pag d mo react

can you cite a line in the 1987 constitution that says that all nuclear is banned..

cause according to my copy of the constitution only Article II, Section 8 has the word Nuclear in it and it states:

"Section 8. The Philippines, consistent with the national interest, adopts and pursues a policy of freedom from nuclear weapons in its territory."

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[raphz]

i really don't mind that activities of the US whether of a submarine or warships. what i do mind is the north korea's stupid activities and is really a threat rather than the US. China is just plainly a stupid country for supporting north korea, which we all know is teasing for a war against anybody especially the south korea. thats more of a threat than US nuclear powered submarine.

[analog man]

US didnt lost in vietnam in military aspect. On January 1968 the North send the Bulk of its troops to attack 100 cities in the south. By the end of the city battles 37,000 Vietcong were killed while only 2,500 American soldiers were killed. The north should have lost the war if the US countered attacked but with the growing public demand to stop the war(in the US, due to the video footage of Vietcong soldiers[dead ones] inside the US embasy). The US government pulled the plug, and withdrawn US troops in Vietnam.

mao lagi, patay ra jud dad-on aning US bisan asa.

ganahan ka nga ari na sad sa ato magpatay?

[emmhai]

dah... mangamongay man ning US oi... atot baya ani nila.. what is mga tao nga walay lain lingaw mangita ug ma among para tawn naa sad sila mabuhat.. hehehe

[Inquisitor]

mao lagi, patay ra jud dad-on aning US bisan asa.

ganahan ka nga ari na sad sa ato magpatay?

I think a million or two is ok if it will bind the nation together. If the deaths of our brothers and sisters is what is needed to make us patriotic then so be it.

When the People is corrupt, so will be the Government. We can't stop corruption by changing the officials that govern the nation. Sacrifices must be made..


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[bizkid08]

SUSSS, ngano kailangan paman ni oi.. mag tabang2x palang tanan tao sao kalibutan

[cebuiluv]

super ferry rman ang naa sa pinas..maihas jud ta f naay aircraft carrier dri or submarine n mga battleships..basin sunod himo.an nta ug airfield sa US pra ma upgrade pud tawn a2 mga jets n planes dri..

simbako lang brad maghimo silag inana dre sa atoa kay mahimog battlegrounds atong nasud! collateral damage jud tuod!