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  1. #1011

    Quote Originally Posted by anjerika View Post
    I don't know how people would put it. Sad to say many Catholics are shaky about their belief in the Church and in God. ang ending, ang taw maoy sukdanan kung padayonon ba nila ang ilang giapilan nga relihiyon.


    I'm not against those who have transferred religions. This goes out to those who are Catholics but are "shaky" or "jam2" na lang sa pagka Katoliko.


    Ask yourself unsay root nganong na way klaro imong pagtuo?


    Just as the body will not become healthy if not nourished with nutrition,
    the faith also is not nourished if you do not do anything to cultivate it.

    Like for example, how would you expect to be faithful if you evade going to Masses, attending church traditions, reading the Bible, and the like?

    We also have to do something para mudako atong faith, just like kailangan ta mukaon para managko atong lawas.

    Check your influences. What kind of people do you hang out with? I'm not trying to judge your friends, but maybe usa na sa mga rason nga ma out of focus ka sa pagka Katoliko.

    What books do you read? Kung himasa kaayo kag books nga mu contradict sa mga teaching sa simbahan, chances are, mapareha ka nila.

    Who do you listen to? As I have been told, you become who you listen to. Tuod naay mandaot bisag asa, nay buhatan tag daotan, naay mangbrainwash nato, naay tiunan pa gani ta sa atong tinuohan.

    But we decide who we want to become. It's not what other people say about God, it's what YOU say about Him.
    Or nibalhin ug religion kay nakasabot na...

  2. #1012
    Quote Originally Posted by t!geR View Post
    catholic ko pero maybe some factors nga maka ingn sad ta nga ang uban religion sakto sila in their own way.... or ang uban ni balhin tungod kay nadala sa ilang pares...
    Unsa gud tawn nang 'Sakto sila in their own way'.. pag shure kunu dha. Sakto gani, sakto jud na. di kay sakto in their own way...isa ra baya ang truth, so if sakto, sakto - if sayop sayop. so kung sakto ang uban religion para nimu - So kana imu religion karun is SAYOP na.. hehe

  3. #1013
    I am a Catholic and to share some info too to Catholics and non-Catholics
    try to browse www.katoliko.com
    Glory to God
    and thanks,

  4. #1014
    I am expecting a healthy discussion here about being a CATHOLIC and converting to another RELIGION .

    CIte your reason why and there is no need of why and how your religion is the TRUE REIGION .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  5. #1015
    Quote Originally Posted by bungot25 View Post
    lack of faith
    schisms
    heresies
    ignorance of faith
    agnosticism
    atheism--- this is the worst of them!

    no need to argue about it!
    Atheism is not religion.
    The title doesn't fit this.

    It's not the reason why people convert to whatever religion or belief they are now.

  6. #1016
    Blind kaayo ko sa IDOLATRY sa Catholic (No offense).
    1. Idolatry = worship of graven images, dressing them, kissing them, serving them and almost die for them.
    2. Novena = it's a chant.. Chant = repeated saying of a word, phrases or sentences.
    3. Practice = They don't practice what they preach..(wa pako kadungog nga pastor sa born again, pentecostal, sabadista and etc kay nabalita sa tv nga naay krimen nga gi commit..

    Guys nisulti rako sa tinuod ha... I don't want debate...Please ko quote ani kung Christian mo (not catholic) and say amen..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitargod View Post
    Blind kaayo ko sa IDOLATRY sa Catholic (No offense).
    1. Idolatry = worship of graven images, dressing them, kissing them, serving them and almost die for them.
    2. Novena = it's a chant.. Chant = repeated saying of a word, phrases or sentences.
    3. Practice = They don't practice what they preach..(wa pako kadungog nga pastor sa born again, pentecostal, sabadista and etc kay nabalita sa tv nga naay krimen nga gi commit..

    Guys nisulti rako sa tinuod ha... I don't want debate...Please ko quote ani kung Christian mo (not catholic) and say amen..

    I agree to this bro. I'm not converted but I'm not practicing catholicism anymore because of the same reasons you've cited. MY folks and other relatives dislike the way I reacted and pray... Doing the sign of the cross is "a must" to them and I don't do that whenever I'm asked to pray on special occasions.

    LOL just like the PP, I don't wish to argue, just want to express my opinion. First and last post for this thread.

  8. #1018
    Quote Originally Posted by Guitargod View Post
    Blind kaayo ko sa IDOLATRY sa Catholic (No offense).
    1. Idolatry = worship of graven images, dressing them, kissing them, serving them and almost die for them.

    Idolatry is worshiping graven images... ask any catholic, bisan ang wa naka graduate sa elementary kung naga-worship ba sila sa images of Jesus, B.V. Mary or saints. Pero no need to ask kay you will never believe what Catholics will say to you; nor consider the attitudes of the Catholics regarding the devotional use of these images. Sometimes we also forget that our love of self is bounding on idolatry!! Check yourself, bro.

    2. Novena = it's a chant.. Chant = repeated saying of a word, phrases or sentences.

    Novena a chant? Repeated prayers are never incantations, understanding them in the esoteric sense of religious use. These repeated prayers can be expressions of a heart full of love for God and of God, bro. Even your "Praise the Lord and Amen" are repeated a thousand times in your prayer service bro ...will it not fit on your definition of "chant"?

    3. Practice = They don't practice what they preach..(wa pako kadungog nga pastor sa born again, pentecostal, sabadista and etc kay nabalita sa tv nga naay krimen nga gi commit..

    Come on, don't be "holier than thou" attitude .. scandals, as Jesus said: will arise in the community of believers" and yes, even in your born again communities, bro. There are so many among pastors, too, if you will just research: incests, homosexuality, paid *** with a prostitute, *** with a member of the church, pedophile ***, etc. My point is that nobody can really claim to be clean in this corrupt world .. and even men & women in the ministry, regardless of denominations, are being attacked by Satan and are tempted much to fall so as not to spread the Good News effectively. We all need God to be strong in the midst of all these temptations. If you love Christ and adore God, then you will pray for all ministers of the Gospel regardless of their christian denomination, specially those who are vulnerable ... and tempted. Otherwise, "we don't practice what we believe" as Jesus said: Love one another as I love you ... pray for your enemies.

    Guys nisulti rako sa tinuod ha... I don't want debate...Please ko quote ani kung Christian mo (not catholic) and say amen..
    Guys, sulti ra ko sa tinuod, isip katoliko .. dili ko gusto ug debate .. kay samok ra ug way kapa-ingnan. Peace and Love.
    I have to quote you to make a point, bro, because I am a catholic, even though I am this ignorant and unlearned.

  9. #1019
    the most stupid istorya na akong nadungog to people na nibalhin from catholic to other religion is this "sa una katung katoliko pa ko bisyoso kaau ko karon nibalhin ko sa (religion) wa na jud ko bisyo" WTF... what really did ur new religion do sa imo, a rehab?...

    sulti lang ko coz this thread is violating this forum rule :

    2. Posts should be composed in such a manner that respects persons of all races, religions, cultures, and sexualities. No post may contain personal attacks, as they have no proper place in discussions. The purpose of this forum is to facilitate growth, not to belittle others.

    Coz im a catholic and the thread has clearly no respect for my religion, the way the TS does his title... the format, it will really turn out na bati ang catholic na religion... in effect ge.belittle nimo ang catholic na religion...

    if his thread title would be "why did u convert to other religion" that would be more appropriate...

  10. #1020
    Manghunong na tag panghinaw kay maski pa unsa atong relihiyon tanan, kung manaa man, nakasala ta, sa mata sa Ginoo, balaod og tawo! hehe. og palihog ay na pagtamas tamas sa mga Katoliko kay di gyud ni mahuman, og di gyud pud mi mahuman! hehe the Catholic church has withstood the test of time, mas grabe pa tong sauna nga naagian. Please don't generalize, not all Catholics are as bad as you think they are. in the same way, not all people who are in the same religion as you are as good as you think you are.
    Last edited by anjerika; 06-15-2010 at 12:34 AM.

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