^^faet kng ing ana jd ang mentality sa pinoy. mao cgrong wala jd mo asenso ang pinas ky tungod ra mn sd sa mga tao. hahaiz...
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Thread: Politics in the Past vs. Today
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03-06-2010, 10:24 PM #61C.I.A.
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03-06-2010, 10:27 PM #62Elite Member
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That's what most people think nowadays, but no, it was pretty much the same back then. It's just that we tend to look wistfully on the "good ol' days", perhaps coloring everything in romanticized sepia-toned hues.
Originally Posted by boydlMMiX
Cultural problem maybe? We've always relied on patronage politics ever since. From the time of the Spaniards until today, very little has changed. Maybe the amounts siphoned away by corruption have just become more obscene.
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03-06-2010, 10:29 PM #63Elite Member
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--double post-- Originally Posted by peewee_toot
Last edited by Tarmac; 03-06-2010 at 10:34 PM.
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03-06-2010, 10:33 PM #64Elite Member
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Sakto gyud ka. It's not the president. It's not the government. It's us. Originally Posted by peewee_toot
We had the best opportunity EVER to effect a sea change in society after the EDSA Revolution. But we squandered it.
A lot of people are pinning their hopes on this election. That this or that candidate will transform government... that the heavens will open up and a host of angels will descend upon this country to drive all evildoers back to oblivion. Ha!
But if we couldn't change things when we had a clean slate to start with in 1986, I wonder how we're going to do it now.
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03-07-2010, 10:58 AM #65
Well all we can do is ponder ... quite sad ...
Master Yoda's Quote “Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”
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03-09-2010, 07:54 PM #66Been thinking about this since you wrote it ... and comparing our Presidentiables this elections, im having a tough time analyzing if anyone can really make a difference Originally Posted by Tarmac
Master Yoda's Quote “Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”
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03-09-2010, 10:22 PM #67Senior Member
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-- Lahi gud to sa-una kay two party systems ra man, ang ka-atbang di pod basta2x ug makinarya, mag-bantay gud ka. Imong makontra hinas-hasan gud...
-- naa ra na natong mga pinoy... kung nakabantay mo ang mga pinoy magpatahod, kahilas ra paminawon anang tawagon ug sir/mom labi nga parehas ra mong employado(ulipon sa kompanya)... Dali kaayo maka daog2x sa inig ka pinoy pero kung lain nga race? Tan-awa ng mga Jews, nagtinabangay, mas grabe pa ang ilang naagi-an, karon usa sila sa mga adunahan, maski ang intsik/south koreans, kita! malipay ta kung ma down nato ang isig ka pinoy.
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03-09-2010, 10:46 PM #68Newbie
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actually, what is happening now the effect of what has happened from the past... there are good leaders, there are bad... people has different personalities. people has different behavior towards things that happened in their life... corruption is a thing from the past. even the late presidents, like sadam hussein, he also have his story to tell. it's the reality of the world. we have different ambitions, different goals-personal. therefore, one thing is constant- when we want change, it all starts within us... then, believed there isn't a difference between politics in the past and now...
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03-09-2010, 10:54 PM #69Elite Member
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How true, unfortunately. Crab mentality. Originally Posted by batigol192002
However, our nostalgia for the two-party system is somewhat overblown. Even in the 40's and 50's, ideology played as much part in differentiating the Nacionalistas from the Liberals as it does now. Which is to say there wasn't any difference at all. It was just as much about individuals then as it is today. No less than Ramon Magsaysay himself crossed over from the Liberal Party to the Nacionalistas. Ferdinand Marcos, elected under the Nacionalista banner, was himself an LP transferee.
Corruption-wise there was nothing to choose between either party. The corrupt Quirino government was Liberal. And while Magsaysay's golden reign was under the Nacionalista banner, his successor Carlos P. Garcia's term was likewise marked by corruption. And let's not forget Marcos, who rules the roost.
Don't expect party ideology to drive Philippine politics for at least a generation. Why? Simple. Ideology and platforms are just too vague for most voters. For as long as 90% of our voting population is composed of Class D and E, party ideology takes a back seat to personality-driven politics, while empty promises and pandering to the poor rule over solid, implementable platforms.
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03-09-2010, 11:22 PM #70Junior Member
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I totally agree with you. Ingon sila na ang two-party system was better for the Philippines because it was more ideologically driven. Yeah right. Originally Posted by Tarmac
Like you said, the transfer of Magsaysay and Marcos to the Nacionalista is an indication that ideological beliefs don't really have a significant role in Philippine politics then. Kay kontra man si Quirino kang Magsaysay, balhin si Magsaysay sa NP. Kay wala man nisugot si Macapagal na moatras ug reelection bid sa 1965, balhin si Marcos sa NP. Really, where's the ideology there?
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