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    @josephdc

    bro i'd like to ask...is the christian god immune to his own commandment especially the 5th commandment? (though shalt not kill) if it's a sanctioned killing like syay nagsugo, or he himself did the act then it's excusable..or is it the same answer: that we shouldn't question his motives..or his judgement is beyond human understanding..if he abhors killing then why is it happening?

  2. #282
    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    How do you know that they're just fairy tales? And why do you say that the God in the Bible is crazy and cruel?


    .. joseph.. please, why do you ask such questions when the answer is already in my post .. let me quote my own post that you're in question to ..

    .. yeah, such a cruel god they have. Ordering his servant to kill his own son just to test his faith. Crazy and cruel. There are many evidence in the bible of how cruel god is, like that of abraham, his hatred towards ramses and the egyptians, that great flood on the time of noah. But again, those are just fairy tales from the faithful.
    .. read it again, the answer to your question is in there ...



    @ramini, nice analogy, God stated in his own 10 commandments of THOU SHALT NOT KILL ... but, as a prime example, why did he order Abraham to kill his own son If god exists, he truly is crazy and confused.

  3. #283
    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    I think that may be true for many theists, sis. Why do you think that makes them less than honest?
    bro, if my previous post on theists and lip-service belief in god is still not understandable, let's just say because it feels that way. please don't make me explain about feelings, they are just that

    OT: happy valentines and kung hei fat choi

  4. #284
    I don't understand why "X-tians" are so adamant that their god is the center of all faith? Is perceptionus nonexistentus objectis eventis" has a cure already?

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    ^illness diay na

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    Quote Originally Posted by munzter666 View Post
    test of faith...
    how many biblical serial killers attest to test of faith? how many lives lost because of test of faith claims? countless.

    in REALITY...how would you ACT?
    what if abraham was your neighbor and you saw what he was doing to his SON...what would you do?

    A) leave him be...watch and do nothing
    B) call for help/police
    C) tackle, grapple and beat his a** to submission
    Nothing I will wait then until the end of days would come and GOD would hand in his final judgment upon this world, ending all the sufferings that we endure from the hands of the devil.

  7. #287
    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    How do you know that they're just fairy tales? And why do you say that the God in the Bible is crazy and cruel?
    how do you know that the Panchatantra, or perhaps some greek mystical fantasy book full of metaphors are true? how does the Bible specifically differ? the God in the Old Testament is perhaps the most mean-spirited character in all book mythology. thanks to him, he was smart enough to send the loving, caring, wisdom-filled Jesus Christ in the New Testament on earth totally opposite of him.

  8. #288
    Quote Originally Posted by fingolfin View Post
    @ramini, nice analogy, God stated in his own 10 commandments of THOU SHALT NOT KILL ... but, as a prime example, why did he order Abraham to kill his own son If god exists, he truly is crazy and confused.
    HOY! you're not allowed to question god's motives and judgement!!..haha!! btaw oi..kidding aside..i am a very staunch supporter of the saying "Lead by example" and i don't see that in the christian god...it should've been stipulated clearly in the 10 commandments..."thou shalt not kill" PS: if it's sanctioned by me or i did it myself...or at the end of the commandments there's a fine print saying: commandments only apply on a case to case basis or contact heaven for further clarification...seems to me that this god..is no different than his creations..he throws tantrums, is jealous, and will do everything at the expense of the lives his creations just to test if they're really loyal to him..

  9. #289
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    he was smart enough to send the loving, caring, wisdom-filled Jesus Christ in the New Testament on earth totally opposite of him.
    sent his son to be killed so that sins may be forgiven..if he's the authority on sins..nganong naa pman mamatay?..why is the sin of men only redeemable by the blood of the Son of God? (jesus christ) wla na bai laing paagi?..abi nko he doesn't want killing it says so in his commandments..then why send his son to die for his people?..im sure there were other ways to redeem the sins of his creations without ever having someone to die?..or bacn kai mu ressurect lang iya anak within 3 days?..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirong-say View Post
    ending all the sufferings that we endure from the hands of the devil.
    in relation to the job story...you say that evil is done by the hands of the devil?..sa job story gani ka gi sanction man sa ginoo nga ang devil mubuhat ug dautan sa kang job..just because kai nag wager silang duha na mapabali sa devil ang allegiance ni job bsta mawala iyang katigayunan ug mga anak...in my opinion i can say that god isn't that innocent with regards to the "evil" spreading in this world?..so what if nag wager napd diay ang ginoo karn ug ang demonyo kng kinsa napad ilang testingan?..so how can you say that the devil IS the only source of evil in this world?..we can't say..bacn naa pai mga modern day jobs dri sa atoa karn..which are pure in heart pure in their allegiance to god pero kadtong mga salbahes dli na i apil sa wager kai naa nman daan sa demonyo..how nice unta if mabali ang wager..mangita silang duha (god and the devil) sa pinaka salbahes na tao sa tibuok kalibutan then shower him all the graces from god..then tan-awon if mubali ba sya into the side of goodness.. "worst things come with the best of intentions"

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