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  1. #271

    I know that human lives are not created from the dimension that human beings think they know.

  2. #272
    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    where was God in:

    - the Haiti Earthquake (100,000 killed)
    - the Tsunami (500,000 killed)
    - the Holocaust (6,000,000 killed)
    - Rwanda (nearly 1,000,000 killed)

    why is it that when good things happen, we credit "GOD" for it. but when bad things happen, for some reason, we always seem to blame GOD's creation (human beings) rather than GOD himself. didn't GOD create everything according to his plan? what exactly is the "divine" reason that GOD allow things to happen like this? it's terrible, horrific, and in contradiction to the attributes of this so-called GOD... the loving, caring GOD.

    so, when bad things happen, GOD is innocent. remember what Pat Robertson said about the earthquake in Haiti?

    when Haiti was a French colony, freedom fighters "swore a pact to the devil," saying, "We will serve you if you will get us free from the French. And so the devil said, ‘Okay, it's a deal.’” Ever since, Robertson continued, "they [Haitians] have been cursed by one thing after the other."

    where is GOD in this sentence? please don't give me the FREEWILL crap (excuse my language). if man has freewill, why is it that GOD doesn't seem to have the FREE 'EFFIN WILL to stop these horrific deaths?
    nindot diay ni diri kay morag plaza independencia.

    Mr.Chad we are not immortals, hospital records can attest to that. The Day comes without any warning, so its only a matter of how? when? where?

    Death is not a good news no not to us mortals with our limited perception and walled brain this event can impact us in different ways.

    Do you believe in God?

  3. #273
    Quote Originally Posted by Tirong-say View Post
    What happened to Job and to Abraham are just purely a test of faith, no killings involved, what happened in Haiti, is absolutely of another matter, it involves killing.
    test of faith...
    how many biblical serial killers attest to test of faith? how many lives lost because of test of faith claims? countless.

    in REALITY...how would you ACT?
    what if
    abraham was your neighbor and you saw what he was doing to his SON...what would you do?

    A) leave him be...watch and do nothing
    B) call for help/police
    C) tackle, grapple and beat his a** to submission

  4. #274
    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    How do you know that if God exists, it couldn't be as how Christians understand him to be?
    why should it always have to be according to the christians, sir?

  5. #275
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    why should it always have to be according to the christians, sir?
    Im sure he's answer is another question..

    "why not?" hehehe...

  6. #276
    can God be put into words?

  7. #277
    Quote Originally Posted by munzter666 View Post
    test of faith...
    how many biblical serial killers attest to test of faith? how many lives lost because of test of faith claims? countless.

    in REALITY...how would you ACT?
    what if
    abraham was your neighbor and you saw what he was doing to his SON...what would you do?

    A) leave him be...watch and do nothing
    B) call for help/police
    C) tackle, grapple and beat his a** to submission

    .. yeah, such a cruel god they have. Ordering his servant to kill his own son just to test his faith. Crazy and cruel. There are many evidence in the bible of how cruel god is, like that of abraham, his hatred towards ramses and the egyptians, that great flood on the time of noah. But again, those are just fairy tales from the faithful.

  8. #278
    Quote Originally Posted by munzter666 View Post
    test of faith...
    how many biblical serial killers attest to test of faith? how many lives lost because of test of faith claims? countless.

    in REALITY...how would you ACT?
    what if
    abraham was your neighbor and you saw what he was doing to his SON...what would you do?

    A) leave him be...watch and do nothing
    B) call for help/police
    C) tackle, grapple and beat his a** to submission
    For me? None of the Above..

    Coz im gonna take a video on him ang post it to youtube!

  9. #279
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    why should it always have to be according to the christians, sir?
    I don't know what you mean bro. He claimed that he's sure that if God exists, it couldn't be the Christian God, so I asked him how he knows that.

  10. #280
    Quote Originally Posted by fingolfin View Post
    .. yeah, such a cruel god they have. Ordering his servant to kill his own son just to test his faith. Crazy and cruel. There are many evidence in the bible of how cruel god is, like that of abraham, his hatred towards ramses and the egyptians, that great flood on the time of noah. But again, those are just fairy tales from the faithful.
    How do you know that they're just fairy tales? And why do you say that the God in the Bible is crazy and cruel?

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