Why Is God Always Innocent?

[Ramini]

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you may ask question but you will never understand the state of mind of your creator. If you ask questions and you when you get an answer you will always seek for another question and so on and so forth as long as you deny his existence then you will always end up with another question..

if your logic here is "to see is to believe" then why does the word "faith" exist?

I myself hate reading a bible, disobeyed most of the commandments on the scriptures but that doesnt eliminate my faith of God's existence...

and one thing, wa gani ko kaila anang imong giingon nga dawkins bai, kinsa na siya? artista na?

mao man jd nai daganan ba..the basic rebuttal.."you will never fathom the wisdom of god" same old same old...i'd like to ask..is it REALLY that BAD to ask for a physical evidence nganong muulbo man jd imong kaspa ana?..why is it soo wrong to ask for a tangible evidence for god?..you can't even tell the real location of heaven..sometimes naa sa earth sometimes a state of being sometimes somewhere in space and sometimes pd up in the sky..that part isn't even clear..how much more kaha if naa ba jd na sya or wla.

wa gani ko kaila anang imong giingon nga dawkins bai, kinsa na siya? artista na?

naa sya sa bible bai..look him up didto..joke!..nah! don't bother knowing him..he's bad for your health...i mean faith.

[Ramini]

This doesn't require elaboration, this is a simplification of Ramini's reply. If you want elaboration, re-read his post.

Where knowledge ends religion begins..translation in bisaya terms....

ayaw nalang ug pangutana gd..tuo nlang!..

haha!

well if muhatag kog lain na quote i'd choose this...

"Doubt is a sign of intelligence"

[cromagnon]

Quote:
Originally Posted by treize
wa gani ko kaila anang imong giingon nga dawkins bai, kinsa na siya? artista na?


naa sya sa bible bai..look him up didto..joke!..nah! don't bother knowing him..he's bad for your health...i mean faith.

mao2 sakto2 , hahhahhahah

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[munzter666]

the basic rebuttal.."you will never fathom the wisdom of god" same old same old.

the bible hugger's escape goat.hohum
the irony with that EXCUSE is it is self refuting...it also means they dont know jack about what they're talking about.

[chad_tukes]

But you asked where he was in those calamities, right? How can it be possible for him to be responsible of them?

i don't know. i don't wanna pretend i know the answers when i don't. so, does your question suggest that he wasn't the one responsible of them? but then, why all of a sudden, when good things happen, he's always the good guy? ever heard of the phrase, "Thank you lord for all our blessings"? you never hear someone say, "Thank you lord for all the calamities and disasters."

Okay, you don't believe in God. But then how can you "dissect" his behavior if you think he doesn't exist? If he doesn't exist, what's there to dissect?

how can i? because i can and because i want to. just because i don't believe in God doesn't mean i can't study his behavior. why ask me what's there to dissect? it's just like saying you believe in God and you go to Church, but you can't see him---so who's there to praise?

So what are you really asking us in this thread?

please re-read the first post. i don't think it's that really confusing. you are just confusing yourself. the question is pretty straight-forward.

[treize]

mao man jd nai daganan ba..the basic rebuttal.."you will never fathom the wisdom of god" same old same old...i'd like to ask..is it REALLY that BAD to ask for a physical evidence nganong muulbo man jd imong kaspa ana?..why is it soo wrong to ask for a tangible evidence for god?..you can't even tell the real location of heaven..sometimes naa sa earth sometimes a state of being sometimes somewhere in space and sometimes pd up in the sky..that part isn't even clear..how much more kaha if naa ba jd na sya or wla.

see? you're asking for another question.. hehehe.. never said that it's bad to ask questions nor did I say that it's wrong... everytime you get an answer, you will always end up with another question... hehehe.. your not getting any smarter..

naa sya sa bible bai..look him up didto..joke!..nah! don't bother knowing him..he's bad for your health...i mean faith.

dont worry, dont really have plans of knowing him... pasensya na og wa ko kaila sa imong idol ha... wahehehe...

[cromagnon]

or wla. see? you're asking for another question.. hehehe.. never said that it's bad to ask questions nor did I say that it's wrong... everytime you get an answer, you will always end up with another question... hehehe.. your not getting any smarter..

at least not getting deluded or schizo ,. or not hallucinating

[josephdc]

we differ lng ug opinion bay , but anyway- sa ako -a lng ni ...

puting god out of the box ..

evil is synonymous to tyrany, dominating , killing , predators , territorial or jealousy .
and this are animalistic traits .

normal lang sa tao as a member of animal/primate na mo patay jud cya ...

however humans copared to animals ,mas higher iya intelligence , more concious beings cla.
apes / primates compare to other animals they most likely make love than war ...
thats why we became the most successful specie in planet..

however this is a scientific view / or body of fact/. or psychology...

so , evil is humans as an animal dark side ....
eros - constructive side
thanatos - destructive side , depends lang sa tao asa iya ipalabao .

but being concious enough as the law of Karma works . magbantay jud ka sa imo gipangbuhat...

athiest does do good things bec , of heaven and hell . as ward or consequence.
but as a deciesion lang...

Ah okay bai. So as an atheist you do believe in good and evil, right and wrong also?

[josephdc]

This doesn't require elaboration, this is a simplification of Ramini's reply. If you want elaboration, re-read his post.

I wanted to clarify because the quote seems very condescending towards religious people. Is the author of the quote saying that religious beliefs are not knowledge?

[josephdc]

let me qualify my statement ha atheists are more honest than most theists. i've observed that most theists when asked fundamental questions about their faith in a deity like "why do you believe in a god? have you had any experience of god?" would often answer that it is what they have grown up with, what was taught to them in school, what their parents told them to believe as their parents before them had taught them to believe. i've observed that most people who said they believe in god do not really believe in god. that belief system was just taught to them. and since they do not want to rock the boat, they never took time to experience god for themselves. lip service lang ba. ambot lang sad ha, mao ra na akong nabantayan. disclaimer dayon

bro, i'd like to know if you've observed things differently.

I think that may be true for many theists, sis. Why do you think that makes them less than honest?