Why Is God Always Innocent?

[josephdc]

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^ But don't you think bro that absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence?

I think that there is a way to disprove theism, at least theoretically. If you can show that the arguments for God's existence is incoherent, for example, or if you can prove that evil is logically incompatible with God's existence, or if you can show that God's existence is improbable given the extent and kind of evil and suffering in the world, etc., I guess you can disprove Christian theism. I think that's what atheists are arguing for.

What are your thoughts about the problem of evil?

[treize]

haha!! just like what dawkins said..bsta ginoo na gani nai involved ang trump card dayon ang ipagawas which means "do not question" is presumptous short for..."you're not allowed to question further"?

you may ask question but you will never understand the state of mind of your creator. If you ask questions and you when you get an answer you will always seek for another question and so on and so forth as long as you deny his existence then you will always end up with another question..

if your logic here is "to see is to believe" then why does the word "faith" exist?

I myself hate reading a bible, disobeyed most of the commandments on the scriptures but that doesnt eliminate my faith of God's existence...

and one thing, wa gani ko kaila anang imong giingon nga dawkins bai, kinsa na siya? artista na?

[treize]

kanang mo ingon nga di sila motuo og ginoo, atik ra na, tana-awa unya og ma corner ni kamatayan di ba nampit nag ginoo.. wahehehe...

[treize]

We should sell them these t-shirts bai.

bOffensive :: Religion :: Where Knowledge Ends, Religion Begins

ngiga abot man kag paninda diri... hehehe wrong post ka, adto sa buy and sell.. wahehehe....

[tokidoki]

ngiga abot man kag paninda diri... hehehe wrong post ka, adto sa buy and sell.. wahehehe....

mao ka. hehehe...

[cromagnon]

What are your thoughts about the problem of evil?

we differ lng ug opinion bay , but anyway- sa ako -a lng ni ...

puting god out of the box ..

evil is synonymous to tyrany, dominating , killing , predators , territorial or jealousy .
and this are animalistic traits .

normal lang sa tao as a member of animal/primate na mo patay jud cya ...

however humans copared to animals ,mas higher iya intelligence , more concious beings cla.
apes / primates compare to other animals they most likely make love than war ...
thats why we became the most successful specie in planet..

however this is a scientific view / or body of fact/. or psychology...

so , evil is humans as an animal dark side ....
eros - constructive side
thanatos - destructive side , depends lang sa tao asa iya ipalabao .

but being concious enough as the law of Karma works . magbantay jud ka sa imo gipangbuhat...

athiest does do good things bec , of heaven and hell . as ward or consequence.
but as a deciesion lang...

[tokidoki]

Can you guys elaborate on the quote, "Where knowledge ends, religion begins"?

This doesn't require elaboration, this is a simplification of Ramini's reply. If you want elaboration, re-read his post.

[miyay]

What do you mean sis? Why think atheists are more honest that theists?

let me qualify my statement ha atheists are more honest than most theists. i've observed that most theists when asked fundamental questions about their faith in a deity like "why do you believe in a god? have you had any experience of god?" would often answer that it is what they have grown up with, what was taught to them in school, what their parents told them to believe as their parents before them had taught them to believe. i've observed that most people who said they believe in god do not really believe in god. that belief system was just taught to them. and since they do not want to rock the boat, they never took time to experience god for themselves. lip service lang ba. ambot lang sad ha, mao ra na akong nabantayan. disclaimer dayon

bro, i'd like to know if you've observed things differently.

[treize]

let me qualify my statement ha atheists are more honest than most theists. i've observed that most theists when asked fundamental questions about their faith in a deity like "why do you believe in a god? have you had any experience of god?" would often answer that it is what they have grown up with, what was taught to them in school, what their parents told them to believe as their parents before them had taught them to believe. i've observed that most people who said they believe in god do not really believe in god. that belief system was just taught to them. and since they do not want to rock the boat, they never took time to experience god for themselves. lip service lang ba. ambot lang sad ha, mao ra na akong nabantayan. disclaimer dayon

bro, i'd like to know if you've observed things differently.

heh! they're just fooling themselves, trying to ask for logical reasons and scientific explanations about god's existence, always asking for evidence about god's existence and it simply implicates that they're the one's really seeking for god's attention, wanted to really see him physically.. in front of people they tried to deny his existence but deep inside they believe in his existence.. I think they are the truly believers of god... and you call that honest? lol hehehe.. dont make me laugh...

[miyay]

i've also noticed that people who claimed belief in god would display ungodlike behaviors, like belittling those who believe differently from them