Why Is God Always Innocent?

[Ramini]

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@miyay

an anthropomorphic god for me WILL NEVER make sense..

[chad_tukes]

Oh, so are you saying then bro that you actually believe that God is to blame for the deaths in the earthquake? Are you saying that what happened in Haiti is proof of God's apathy? Aren't you assuming, then, that God exists? If so, doesn't that mean you're actually a theist?

no, i ain't blaming God for the deaths. in fact, i was asking if he was the one responsible.

Again, aren't you actually assuming in your statement that God exists?

just because i don't believe in GOD doesn't mean i can't dissect his "behavior".

But by asking bro, "Why is God innocent?" aren't you actually assuming that he exists and, as you pointed out, that we can therefore "cross-examine" his nature or character? By asking that question, aren't you in fact presupposing that he exists and that his character (e.g., his goodness) ought to be questioned because he did not prevent natural evils like the earthquake in Haiti?

assuming and asking are two different things. i do agree, though, that one can ask a question at the same time creating an assumption towards an entity (or person) who is questioned. but this thread is a question directed to a society which claims GOD to be innocent in times of disaster, which i believe i made clear on the first post. maybe that wasn't clear enough. please let me know.

How do you conceive of "God" and how do you know that such a being doesn't exist?

how do you know that such a being exist?

[chad_tukes]

might be OT but if one looks from a perspective that life ends at the death of the body:

- the Haiti Earthquake (100,000 killed)
- the Tsunami (500,000 killed)
- the Holocaust (6,000,000 killed)
- Rwanda (nearly 1,000,000 killed)

then an all powerful, loving god who looks on with apathy may not make sense. but if one looks from another perspective where life goes on even with the destruction of one form (i.e. the human body), then the concept of god may make sense. what do you think?

it would only make sense to a person who actually believes in life after death.

[miyay]

@miyay

an anthropomorphic god for me WILL NEVER make sense..

i wasn't speaking about an anthropomorphic god. power and love are not only human attributes. was the thread about this kind of god? nasaag nasad siguro ko

[Ramini]

@miyay

wla ka nasaag oi..hehe!! okay man imong gisulti..i agree man sa imong concept of god if naa jd god..for as long as dli lang sya anthro' okay ra...for me lang.

if i'd become an person who believes in a god...i'll make sure that my god doesn't have hands, feet, legs, eyes etc. and levels with his/her creations in terms of petty emotional biases such as jealousy, anger, destructive and so on and so forth.

[miyay]

it would only make sense to a person who actually believes in life after death.

yes. and your question "why is god always innocent?" would only make sense to a person who believes in god but does not truly believe in life after death. cause if one truly believe in life after death, then the reason for bodily death does not really matter nor does one remember it after one assumes another form.

labad ra ba kaayo?

[miyay]

@miyay

wla ka nasaag oi..hehe!! okay man imong gisulti..i agree man sa imong concept of god if naa jd god..for as long as dli lang sya anthro' okay ra...for me lang.

curious lang ko, why, if assuming you believe in god, that god will not take on human characteristics?

[Ramini]

curious lang ko, why, if assuming you believe in god, that god will not take on human characteristics?

if ang usa ka ginoo mo display ug biased na emotions like selfishness, jealousy etc. then he's/she's no better than the creatures he/she created or nagpa buang2x lang sya or trip2x lang..he/she should know better not to fall for these petty emotions..unless mao najd na ilang style didto sa "langit" hehe!

[miyay]

if ang usa ka ginoo mo display ug biased na emotions like selfishness, jealousy etc. then he's/she's no better than the creatures he/she created or nagpa buang2x lang sya or trip2x lang..he/she should know better not to fall for these petty emotions..unless mao najd na ilang style didto sa "langit" hehe!

i see. separation of creation and creator. heaven and hell. duality. ok

[treize]

yes. and your question "why is god always innocent?" would only make sense to a person who believes in god but does not truly believe in life after death. cause if one truly believe in life after death, then the reason for bodily death does not really matter nor does one remember it after one assumes another form.

labad ra ba kaayo?

aggree!.............