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  1. #141

    Quote Originally Posted by josephdc View Post
    I was only making an observation. It seems that atheists often blame God whenever calamities or tragedies occur. Well, why do they blame God when they don't believe he exists in the first place? Your comment above seems to imply that you agree that the thread title is not a very good question.
    They didn't blame god bai. They asked where he was when bad things happen. In his absence and consequential aftermath of incidents, why do believers still think God is not to blame if not only for not saving them. Let's just think for one moment that tragedies are NOT his doing. That leaves us to question, where was he when it happened? After all, he is said to be EVERYWHERE.

    Kita man gani bai we blame the president for letting a bad country happen and she CAN make some changes if she can. Why can't the country think of Arroyo as innocent? Why do we see her as guilty when the country goes to hell? I think the same logic applies here.

    Yeah, I agree, the title of the thread may not be a good question to put it. hehehe..

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by treize View Post
    hehehe... so you mean atheists does not believe only in christianity? sorry but that's what your post implies.. you guys keep on asking for evidence about God's existence, why? can you prove that he doesn't exist? tsk! tsk! tsk!
    kebot is a christian so isulod na sa scope sa iya tinuhuan. he doesn't care about muslims or anything else.

    i don't need to provide you evidence bai. I never said god doesn't exist.

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    They didn't blame god bai. They asked where he was when bad things happen. In his absence and consequential aftermath of incidents, why do believers still think God is not to blame if not only for not saving them. Let's just think for one moment that tragedies are NOT his doing. That leaves us to question, where was he when it happened? After all, he is said to be EVERYWHERE.

    Kita man gani bai we blame the president for letting a bad country happen and she CAN make some changes if she can. Why can't the country think of Arroyo as innocent? Why do we see her as guilty when the country goes to hell? I think the same logic applies here.

    Yeah, I agree, the title of the thread may not be a good question to put it. hehehe..
    I don't know, maybe the TS can clarify what he's trying to say? The question, "Why is God always innocent?" seems to imply that God is guilty of the suffering and evils in the world.

  4. #144
    ^^ I reread the first post. The question is why did god ALLOW bad things to happen. chad's statements never said anything that god was responsible for the suffering. being a catalyst and being a passive observer are two different things.

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    ^^ I reread the first post. The question is why did god ALLOW bad things to happen. chad's statements never said anything that god was responsible for the suffering. being a catalyst and being a passive observer are two different things.
    I think his statements did imply that God is somehow responsible for those natural evils. Either that or he's saying that the presence of those evils in our world is somehow proof that God doesn't really exist. I asked him a question regarding the latter a while back if that's what he meant. So it's either of the two.

    Yeah, I think that's what he's asking, too, "Why did God allow all those bad things to happen?" But does that mean that he actually believe God exists but that he allows evil things to happen, or does he mean something else?

  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    They didn't blame god bai. They asked where he was when bad things happen. In his absence and consequential aftermath of incidents, why do believers still think God is not to blame if not only for not saving them. Let's just think for one moment that tragedies are NOT his doing. That leaves us to question, where was he when it happened? After all, he is said to be EVERYWHERE.
    But the thread itself simply implies that God should be blame for not saving this people, for letting this tragedies happend. as I've said he may have his own reasons why he didnt stop this tragedies to happend. If you think you know better what's good for the future of mankind, then with your intellectual capacity you might as well consider yourself to be a better candidate to be a God..

    and one thing, the way you use the word "They" made me remember about Pilate which you used before in your previous post.. mura mag naay nanghinaw ani.. tsk! tsk! tsk!
    unay sa tari! hehehe..

    Quote Originally Posted by tokidoki View Post
    Kita man gani bai we blame the president for letting a bad country happen and she CAN make some changes if she can. Why can't the country think of Arroyo as innocent? Why do we see her as guilty when the country goes to hell? I think the same logic applies here.

    Yeah, I agree, the title of the thread may not be a good question to put it. hehehe..
    that's what we humans are good at, always looking for someone to blame for our being incompetent..
    Last edited by treize; 02-04-2010 at 07:01 PM.

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    Being an atheist has deeper cause in a person.
    Most atheist I know have relationship problems with their father.

    When you question your fathers actions and decisions,
    somehow, you eventually question your God.

    Because it is easier to deny importance of your father than to deal with him.
    Then later you deny the importance of a God.
    And finally, it is better to deny the existence of a God.

  8. #148
    as an atheist i don't deny the existence of a God because in the first place there is no God thus there's nothing to deny.

  9. #149
    "I hate you, God. I hate you as though you actually exist." — Graham Greene (The End of the Affair)

    OT

  10. #150
    Nothings wrong if your Athiest or not..

    Problem starts at the unhealthy minds of prejudiced
    people to realize that intolerance is toxic. it poisons human
    growth and makes it impossible for perfect health to flourish.

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