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  1. #301

    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    religion has its flaws? edi buot ipasabot naa lagi sayop...mu deny pa jud ka oi kaklaro ana ah! mao bitaw tutol ka kay naa kay nakit ang sayop...toytoy baya...

    naay gitawag nga "pure religion" sa Bible.

    Jas 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

    kung muingon tag "pure", perfect jud na noh?

    kung mangutana ka kung perfect ba ang among religion, mapugos ko ug sulti nga perfect natural! mao bitaw nagpabilin ko sa akong pagtuo kay kung naa pakoy nakitang fault, hagbay rakong nihawa. pero kung naa man gani fault, i believe gipaningkamutan na namo nga masakto kay dili diha diha dayon makuha ang perfection. on the process ang perfection...mas maayo nalang mi moving forward dili pa backward...
    good for you.. kung asa ka malipayon, di suportahan tika..

    hopefully, uban religion mu-evolve pud..

  2. #302
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    good for you.. kung asa ka malipayon, di suportahan tika..

    hopefully, uban religion mu-evolve pud..
    maayo untag mu evolve pero mao raman gihapon wala man koy nakitang kausaban thousands of years naman unta ang nilabay mao raman gihapon...

    ang akong pagtuo noh kung tarong pa ang religion, walay tawo nga maglisod...maong naay naglisod tungod sa sayop nga religion...kanang imong giingon nga discrimination, wala na sa sakto nga religion...

  3. #303
    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    maayo untag mu evolve pero mao raman gihapon wala man koy nakitang kausaban thousands of years naman unta ang nilabay mao raman gihapon...

    ang akong pagtuo noh kung tarong pa ang religion, walay tawo nga maglisod...maong naay naglisod tungod sa sayop nga religion...kanang imong giingon nga discrimination, wala na sa sakto nga religion...
    naghinay2x na sila ug evolve.. hinay man ni na process gud..

    like for example, kana imo gisulti na before tumanon ang Law of Moses, karon kay ni-evolve na into Law of Christ..

  4. #304
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    naghinay2x na sila ug evolve.. hinay man ni na process gud..

    like for example, kana imo gisulti na before tumanon ang Law of Moses, karon kay ni-evolve na into Law of Christ..
    sila ni evolve na? Law of Moses raman gihapon ang gitudlo dili man Law of Christ wala man silay kalibutan ana...

    ang proof nga Law of Moses ra gihapon ang ilang gitudlo tan awa ang religion sa mga Jews dili jud na sila mutuo ni Jesus Christ kay ang ila kang Moses ra jud. ug sa ubang religion nga sigeg pangolekta ug tithes kay dako mana ug kita. Law of Moses mana...sa Katoliko utro pung Law of Moses...

  5. #305
    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    sila ni evolve na? Law of Moses raman gihapon ang gitudlo dili man Law of Christ wala man silay kalibutan ana...

    ang proof nga Law of Moses ra gihapon ang ilang gitudlo tan awa ang religion sa mga Jews dili jud na sila mutuo ni Jesus Christ kay ang ila kang Moses ra jud. ug sa ubang religion nga sigeg pangolekta ug tithes kay dako mana ug kita. Law of Moses mana...sa Katoliko utro pung Law of Moses...
    aww wa nakoy labot ana.. di ko sweto anang Law of Moses or Law of Christ.. nitubay ra ko sa imong gistorya..

    basig naa pud sila ila rason ngano nagpabilin sila kang Law of Moses..

    pero what about katong religion na wala jud Law of Moses or maski Law of Christ man gani? like Islam? or Hinduism?

  6. #306
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    aww wa nakoy labot ana.. di ko sweto anang Law of Moses or Law of Christ.. nitubay ra ko sa imong gistorya..

    basig naa pud sila ila rason ngano nagpabilin sila kang Law of Moses..

    pero what about katong religion na wala jud Law of Moses or maski Law of Christ man gani? like Islam? or Hinduism?
    ang Islam is Law of Moses nang ilang gisunod...pangutan a unya si Malic diba mao na...

    ing ani na siya bro...kung wala gani kay nahibaw an nga law, bisan Law of Moses or Law of Christ, ang judgement nga ihatag sa Ginoo nimo is ang imong konsensya.

    Rom 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

    Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

    Rom 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

    Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another


    naay Law nga gisuwat ang Ginoo sa kasingkasing sa tawo mao bitaw kahibaw ang tawo kung unsay maayo ug unsay dautan kay naay Law nga gibutang sa Ginoo sa kasingkasing sa tawo. kung ang tawo walay nahibaw an nga Law, ang gamiton nga judgement sa Ginoo is ang Law nga naa sa ilang kasingkasing. take note ha para ni sa mga tawo nga walay nahibaw an nga Law. pero kung ang tawo nakahibaw na sa Law of Christ pero wala niya buhata, aw manubag siya...

    Jas 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

  7. #307
    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    ang Islam is Law of Moses nang ilang gisunod...pangutan a unya si Malic diba mao na...
    i see.. okay.. i did not know that.. i'll ask some muslim brothers here also..

    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    ing ani na siya bro...kung wala gani kay nahibaw an nga law, bisan Law of Moses or Law of Christ, ang judgement nga ihatag sa Ginoo nimo is ang imong konsensya.

    naay Law nga gisuwat ang Ginoo sa kasingkasing sa tawo mao bitaw kahibaw ang tawo kung unsay maayo ug unsay dautan kay naay Law nga gibutang sa Ginoo sa kasingkasing sa tawo. kung ang tawo walay nahibaw an nga Law, ang gamiton nga judgement sa Ginoo is ang Law nga naa sa ilang kasingkasing. take note ha para ni sa mga tawo nga walay nahibaw an nga Law. pero kung ang tawo nakahibaw na sa Law of Christ pero wala niya buhata, aw manubag siya...

    Jas 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
    okay, i understand..

    salamat sa imo mga verses bro.. na-enlightened na jud ko..

  8. #308
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    i see.. okay.. i did not know that.. i'll ask some muslim brothers here also..

    okay, i understand..

    salamat sa imo mga verses bro.. na-enlightened na jud ko..
    your welcome...

    next time napud bro naa pakoy buhaton...God bless you...

  9. #309
    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    your welcome...

    next time napud bro naa pakoy buhaton...God bless you...
    same here.. ayo2x dha bro..

  10. #310
    I believe that science can be wrong at times. Scientists, human as they are, are prone to making errors, no matter how good they are. The Bible, on the other hand, if only written, translated and understood correctly, as God intended it to be written, translated and understood, is a source of perfect knowledge. A lot of people think that the Bible is imperfect, and it is true only because the Bible as we have it right now, has been re-written many times, has been translated many times, by many different people, resulting to variances in meaning, and has been interpreted and understood by many different people in many different ways. The original text of the Bible was written by different prophets, in their own time, as dictated by God, through the spirit of prophecy, and as such, must be read and understood through the same spirit. In my opinion, no highly intellectual being can ever get the true meaning of what the Bible teaches, without the guidance of God himself, who is the true author. A simple man, with an education just enough to allow him to read, or even just the capacity to hear the words from someone who can read, can understand the entirety of the Bible if guided by God.

    So, can science and bible both be correct? my answer is both YES and NO. Yes and No because Science can teach correct ideas and principles, but not all the time. The bible, too, can give us correct knowledge, but only if it has been properly written, translated, interpreted and understood through the guidance of the Spirit, which is God, without which, contention, misconception, deception, confusion and misunderstanding will result.

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