You can be a moral person without God...

[AmorsoloX]

Those that were born before Christ or have never heard of Christ will be judged different than those that have heard of the Christ. Those that have heard his name and reject Christ will be judged hardest of all. It is a sliding scale, fair, just, and final.

this is stupid.. kung ana man lang gani diay, so mas maau pa wala nalang gi preach far and wide and christianity para dili lisod pag judge

priest: believe in christ for he is your saviour, and follow all the church's rules.. those who heard his name but rejected him will go to hell for eternity..
eskimo: father, if i havent heard his name during life till i die, will i go to heaven?
priest: yes.. because it is physically imposible for you to have heard without us missionarries..
eskimo: then why d hell do you have to tell me his name? Screw you! langit na tana ko..

in a sliding scale.. there are different standards used.. just like in quantfication there is the english system and the SI system.. you cant say 1cm is equal to 1 inch..

there is no way the catholic church is the universal truth..

Enlightenment- the state of being able to see what is beyond good and evil..

[chad_tukes]

this is stupid.. kung ana man lang gani diay, so mas maau pa wala nalang gi preach far and wide and christianity para dili lisod pag judge

priest: believe in christ for he is your saviour, and follow all the church's rules.. those who heard his name but rejected him will go to hell for eternity..
eskimo: father, if i havent heard his name during life till i die, will i go to heaven?
priest: yes.. because it is physically imposible for you to have heard without us missionarries..
eskimo: then why d hell do you have to tell me his name? Screw you! langit na tana ko..

in a sliding scale.. there are different standards used.. just like in quantfication there is the english system and the SI system.. you cant say 1cm is equal to 1 inch..

there is no way the catholic church is the universal truth..

Enlightenment- the state of being able to see what is beyond good and evil..

let him be bro. he claims to know the answers like---who will be judged and who will NOT be judged; or who will be judged the HARDEST. hehehehe! it's like a beauty pageant... he already knows who will win.

[AmorsoloX]

by our fear of transgressing morality or the accepted norms, we have become docile like cows who readily follow a stronger person.. we never know even if we are being led to sluaghter..

truth will set you free.. but religions (especially the catholic church) only blind you with their illusion of truth so that you will see what they they want you to see and do what they want you to do..

the greatest failure in life is to be humble and mediocre.. blessed are those who are ambitious for they shall reap the riches of their earth...

[AmorsoloX]

let him be bro. he claims to know the answers like---who will be judged and who will NOT be judged; or who will be judged the HARDEST. hehehehe! it's like a beauty pageant... he already knows who will win.

hahaha.. tinuod jud ka. mao ni nka daot nato mga pinoy.. grabe kaau ato mga ideas pero dili mo reflect sa ato actions.. nindut to ang thread nga why naapsan ta sa koreans didtu sa politics section.. mka iingon ko nga tungod sa ato sobra ka dyosnon. pobre na hinuon ta..

kining mga catoliko man gud mo sugot lang anang kinabuhi nga basta nlang.. cge ra og tawag og ginoo.. pero dha ra taman.. wa jud lihok. para nako, kita pinaka pobre sa asia kay kita ra katoliko..

[force_driven]

GOD is like a heavenly surveillance camera who watches over people who do good things. GOD is like a police who punishes you when you are bad. question is, do we REALLY NEED policing --- in order to stop us from behaving in a selfish and criminal manner? hmmmmmm...

ahh..sa topa magbinut an lang diay ta tuod kay naay Ginoo...no it should not be like that...we do good things kay maayo man..dili kay tungod lag kay naay Ginoo. Kung tinuod jud ka na Kristyano, magbinut an ka kay maayo man... You do good things because you can make this world peaceful..Malipay ra ba c God kung peaceful d ba?

The end does not justify the means...

And reminders, I'm not an antichrist and antichurch, just setting some insights here...

[chad_tukes]

ahh..sa topa magbinut an lang diay ta tuod kay naay Ginoo...no it should not be like that...we do good things kay maayo man..dili kay tungod lag kay naay Ginoo. Kung tinuod jud ka na Kristyano, magbinut an ka kay maayo man... You do good things because you can make this world peaceful..Malipay ra ba c God kung peaceful d ba?

The end does not justify the means...

And reminders, I'm not an antichrist and antichurch, just setting some insights here...

heheh... i'm not disagreeing with you. i share the same views.

and oh, i was being sarcastic with you on the other thread.

[chad_tukes]

hahaha.. tinuod jud ka. mao ni nka daot nato mga pinoy.. grabe kaau ato mga ideas pero dili mo reflect sa ato actions.. nindut to ang thread nga why naapsan ta sa koreans didtu sa politics section.. mka iingon ko nga tungod sa ato sobra ka dyosnon. pobre na hinuon ta..

kining mga catoliko man gud mo sugot lang anang kinabuhi nga basta nlang.. cge ra og tawag og ginoo.. pero dha ra taman.. wa jud lihok. para nako, kita pinaka pobre sa asia kay kita ra katoliko..

imo bro, not just Catholics, but pretty much every religion in the world are like that.

[force_driven]

heheh... i'm not disagreeing with you. i share the same views.

and oh, i was being sarcastic with you on the other thread.

nothing personal bro....I also love some of your arguments in some threads...well naa ra ba tay mga mga bisag unsa nga beliefs...

Basta, for sure motuo jud ko Ginoo...kung motuo sad kag Ginoo then good, we are on the same side...for sure believer sad ka...

[AmorsoloX]

ok ra man kung naa motoo or naa dili motoo..

ang walay au kay kanang naay mopugos nimo nga motoo or dili motoo..

pero para nako, ang pinaka walay au kay kanang pagtoo nga dili based on sound logic...
like "vote for pres. kawatan or mayor stupido kay maau ni cya nga christiano, or ayaw ipass ang only gwapo allowed bill kay contra ni sa atong pagtoo".. you get the drift..

[chad_tukes]

ok ra man kung naa motoo or naa dili motoo..

ang walay au kay kanang naay mopugos nimo nga motoo or dili motoo..

pero para nako, ang pinaka walay au kay kanang pagtoo nga dili based on sound logic...
like "vote for pres. kawatan or mayor stupido kay maau ni cya nga christiano, or ayaw ipass ang only gwapo allowed bill kay contra ni sa atong pagtoo".. you get the drift..

one good example of this is what we call "in-group morality", wherein, a group of people of the same religion develop morals and sees "outgroups" as hostile. this is explicitly defined in the Old testament when God said, "Thou shalt not kill"---which really meant "Thou shalt not kill the Jews". another example of this would be "homogamy" (marrying somebody of the same religion).