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    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    hehehe, calamity happens. If you kill yourself does it mean God allowed it? hmmm. lisud tubagon brad noh?

    Even Christians suffer persecution because they believe. So walay exempted brad.

    Talking about calamity. If its ur time, its ur turn. Some people survive against all odds. If you got problem with that question well, ask Him not the forum. For all I know he allowed it, nobody has to die if God did not allow death. Good luck bro.

    If naay reklamo hala reklamo lang sa baba sa buaya... don't take it against him. His grace is always sufficient... never forget that. If you are discourage, look at those in africa you will realize how fortunate we are amidst the calamity.

    For the wages of sin is Death. All those who died were sinners in the eyes of God. Who's not by the way? We believers are in grief watching Typhoon after typhoon. How does not believers/deniers/athiest respond? Chemical reaction of the body resulted in Anger? hmmm. To tell you brad, its not time to get angry its time to HELP.

    Just imagine your angry and HELPING... i don't know how.. hahahha! relax. God allowed wars... Maybe its God interference to form a strong nation. We have been suffering a lot. Change mindset think positive amidst the storm and trials. Anger wont help.
    Kebs try reading God's problem by: Bart Ehrman (Bible Scholar) on suffering and you cannot find a consistent answer in the bible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Kebs try reading God's problem by: Bart Ehrman (Bible Scholar) on suffering and you cannot find a consistent answer in the bible!
    have you watched hovinds video about sufferings? well he got a point too... book is too boring... try watching video.. u can get the thought in an hour or two...

    happy watching...

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    mag baha man gani karon samut na sauna.......cguro tnuod nga nag flood nya nagkatapok ang mga klase2 nga animals.... xempre bisag animals naay instinct......gusto sila mabuhi, nya cguro naay usa ka place nga wala pa naabtan sa flood didto sila tanan padung.......children story.........hehehe......datu nag nag buhat2 ani.....nya patay na pud......

  4. #94
    limited vision ang tao sauna.

    for exmple manila. para nila. whole world nato.

    imposible....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebotDiNaMute View Post
    have you watched hovinds video about sufferings? well he got a point too... book is too boring... try watching video.. u can get the thought in an hour or two...

    happy watching...
    Hovinds is a poor source and no class unlike Bart Ehrman, a bible scholar!

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    so you guys actually believe the GREAT FLOOD happened? if a lot of people died during the Great Flood, who documented it? Noah? his sons and daughters? the Giraffes?

  7. #97
    I would just like to set some mood here. When you say of myth it does not mean that it is not true...Okay what's the point here, according to my professor who is a priest, he told me that the 1st 11 chapter is a myth then he further explained it, and so i will summarize it for all of you. When you say of myth, it is authored by man and he uses symbols in it, like the god of fire, apollo as etc. etc. But why was it made then, it was made because it is somehow resembles our day to day living. naa siyay grabe na meaning take for example the birth of tragedy of Friedrich Nietzche-- he explained about the meaing behind Dionysius with which he associated with man.

    Now in the case of Noah's Ark naa say version ang mga Hindus ana..trust me that's what Fr. Hermanns, SVD wrote in his book about the Theory of Evolution. Myth lagi pero naay dako na meaing, dili jud ingon na dili tinuod, kay naa may further explanation ana...

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    ondoy happens once every 500 yrs. . . so stories are handed through generations./

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    noah's flood? nge!

    and the rainbows are made as a promise that the flood will not happen again..istoryang baby

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad_tukes View Post
    so you guys actually believe the GREAT FLOOD happened? if a lot of people died during the Great Flood, who documented it? Noah? his sons and daughters? the Giraffes?
    Six Evidences for the Genesis Flood


    Evidence #1—Fossils of sea creatures high above sea level due to the ocean waters having flooded over the continents.
    We find fossils of sea creatures in rock layers that cover all the continents. For example, most of the rock layers in the walls of Grand Canyon (more than a mile above sea level) contain marine fossils. Fossilized shellfish are even found in the Himalayas.

    Evidence #2—Rapid burial of plants and animals.
    We find extensive fossil “graveyards” and exquisitely preserved fossils. For example, billions of nautiloid fossils are found in a layer within the Redwall Limestone of Grand Canyon. This layer was deposited catastrophically by a massive flow of sediment (mostly lime sand). The chalk and coal beds of Europe and the United States, and the fish, ichthyosaurs, insects, and other fossils all around the world, testify of catastrophic destruction and burial.

    Evidence #3—Rapidly deposited sediment layers spread across vast areas.
    We find rock layers that can be traced all the way across continents—even between continents—and physical features in those strata indicate they were deposited rapidly. For example, the Tapeats Sandstone and Redwall Limestone of Grand Canyon can be traced across the entire United States, up into Canada, and even across the Atlantic Ocean to England. The chalk beds of England (the white cliffs of Dover) can be traced across Europe into the Middle East and are also found in the Midwest of the United States and in Western Australia. Inclined (sloping) layers within the Coconino Sandstone of Grand Canyon are testimony to 10,000 cubic miles of sand being deposited by huge water currents within days.

    Evidence #4—Sediment transported long distances.
    We find that the sediments in those widespread, rapidly deposited rock layers had to be eroded from distant sources and carried long distances by fast-moving water. For example, the sand for the Coconino Sandstone of Grand Canyon (Arizona) had to be eroded and transported from the northern portion of what is now the United States and Canada. Furthermore, water current indicators (such as ripple marks) preserved in rock layers show that for “300 million years” water currents were consistently flowing from northeast to southwest across all of North and South America, which, of course, is only possible over weeks during a global flood.

    Evidence #5—Rapid or no erosion between strata.
    We find evidence of rapid erosion, or even of no erosion, between rock layers. Flat, knife-edge boundaries between rock layers indicate continuous deposition of one layer after another, with no time for erosion. For example, there is no evidence of any “missing” millions of years (of erosion) in the flat boundary between two well-known layers of Grand Canyon—the Coconino Sandstone and the Hermit Formation. Another impressive example of flat boundaries at Grand Canyon is the Redwall Limestone and the strata beneath it.

    Evidence #6—Many strata laid down in rapid succession.
    Rocks do not normally bend; they break because they are hard and brittle. But in many places we find whole sequences of strata that were bent without fracturing, indicating that all the rock layers were rapidly deposited and folded while still wet and pliable before final hardening. For example, the Tapeats Sandstone in Grand Canyon is folded at a right angle (90°) without evidence of breaking. Yet this folding could only have occurred after the rest of the layers had been deposited, supposedly over “480 million years,” while the Tapeats Sandstone remained wet and pliable.

    The Institute for Creation Research

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