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    Quote Originally Posted by skoilhp View Post
    The promise of Jesus to send the Holy Ghost after He was gone FEW in the CHRISTIAN world have UNDERSTOOD. HOLY GHOST is the sacred invisible vibratory power of God that actively sustains the universe: the Word, Cosmic Vibration, the Great Comforter, the Savior from all sorrows. Within the Holy Ghost Cosmic Vibration is the all-pervading CHRIST, the Son or Consciousness of God immanent in creation. The method of contacting this Cosmic Vibration, the Holy Ghost, is for the first time being spread worldwide by means of definite meditation techniques. Through the blessing of communion with the Holy Ghost, the cup of human consciousness is expanded to receive the ocean of Christ Consciousness. The adept in the practice of the science of definite meditation techniques who consciously experiences the presence of the Holy Ghost Comforter and merges in the Son, or immanent Christ Consciousness, attains thereby realization of God the Father and entry into the infinite kingdom of God.

    CHRIST will thus appear a SECOND TIME in the consciousness of every devout adept who master the technique of contacting the Holy Ghost, the bestower of indescribable blissful comfort in spirit. Those who have spiritual ears to hear, let them hear that the promise of Jesus Christ to send the Holy Ghost, the Comforter, is being fulfilled. These teachings have been sent to explain the truth as Jesus intended it to be known in the world - not to give a new Christianity, but to give the real Christ-teaching: how to become like Christ, how to resurrect the ETERNAL CHRIST within one's SELF.


    The Second Coming Christ: The Resurrection of the Christ within you
    by Paramahansa Yogananda

    But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ. For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    10They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. 11"Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."
    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Revelation 1:7(NASB)

    "BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. Even so. Amen."

    so therefore the return is visible to everyone ....

    2 Thess 1:7-8(NASB)

    7 "and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, ( Nindot pani tan-awon sa fireworks )

    I think that the verses in the bible have esoteric and exoteric meaning. We often see Jesus speaks in parable when he is speaking to the public and explained the hidden meaning to his inner circle the 12, and within that twelve there was again a different inner circle (john,peter,james).


    let us investigate the above verses. I see a contraction. The former says, that Jesus will come in the same manner as he was ascended to heaven. The latter says, that he will come down with the clouds and EVERY eye will see him, even THOSE who PIERCED him.

    question...were the soldiers who pierced Jesus able to see his ascension? NO. Then why would Revelation say "those who pierced him will be able to see him? how can Jesus come in the same manner if this part is missing. kindly clarify. Those soldiers are already dead. No chance for them to witness the alleged second coming of Jesus.

    so i think this contradiction suggests that verses can be interpreted in different ways. The TS approach is esoteric in nature.
    Last edited by Malic; 10-21-2009 at 09:27 AM.

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    it will only happen if you accept that He's within you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    I think that the verses in the bible have esoteric and exoteric meaning. We often see Jesus speaks in parable when he is speaking to the public and explained the hidden meaning to his inner circle the 12, and within that twelve there was again a different inner circle (john,peter,james).


    let us investigate the above verses. I see a contraction. The former says, that Jesus will come in the same manner as he was ascended to heaven. The latter says, that he will come down with the clouds and EVERY eye will see him, even THOSE who PIERCED him.

    question...were the soldiers who pierced Jesus able to see his ascension? NO. Then why would Revelation say "those who pierced him will be able to see him? how can Jesus come in the same manner if this part is missing. kindly clarify. Those soldiers are already dead. No chance for them to witness the alleged second coming of Jesus.

    so i think this contradiction suggests that verses can be interpreted in different ways. The TS approach is esoteric in nature.
    1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 [15] According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. [16] For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. [17] After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.


    1 Corinthians 15:51-55 [51] Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed -- [52] in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. [53] For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. [54] When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory." [55] "Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?"


    Job 19:26-27 [26] And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God; [27] I myself will see him with my own eyes -- I, and not another. How my heart yearns within me!

    Esoteric gihapon paminawon but this is the Reality .... Maka witness gihapon tong mga Soldiers that pierced Him kay ang mga Namatay mabanhaw .....

    Kini nga time is during the Rapture the second coming of christ is after the Tribulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 [15] According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. [16] For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. [17] After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.


    1 Corinthians 15:51-55 [51] Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed -- [52] in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. [53] For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. [54] When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory." [55] "Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?"


    Job 19:26-27 [26] And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God; [27] I myself will see him with my own eyes -- I, and not another. How my heart yearns within me!

    Esoteric gihapon paminawon but this is the Reality .... Maka witness gihapon tong mga Soldiers that pierced Him kay ang mga Namatay mabanhaw .....

    Kini nga time is during the Rapture the second coming of christ is after the Tribulation.
    lisod ba sabton akong pangutana? my question touches the issue of the MANNER of his coming not during the alleged rapture.

    by the way the rapture and the second coming according to theologians are two different thing. during the rapture Jesus will only appear in the cloud. The second coming is the part where he comes down and touches earth to established his kingdom here.

    so my advice is don't confuse verses to mean both events. Segregate them for me will you? give me your thoughts, kung asa diha ang verse para sa rapture og ang verse para sa second coming.


    kay nagamit ra ba ka og verse nga morag para sa rapture nya second coming ra ba atong gi hisgutan.

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    Thread Closed! ky puro na bible2x


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    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    lisod ba sabton akong pangutana? my question touches the issue of the MANNER of his coming not during the alleged rapture.

    by the way the rapture and the second coming according to theologians are two different thing. during the rapture Jesus will only appear in the cloud. The second coming is the part where he comes down and touches earth to established his kingdom here.

    so my advice is don't confuse verses to mean both events. Segregate them for me will you? give me your thoughts, kung asa diha ang verse para sa rapture og ang verse para sa second coming.


    kay nagamit ra ba ka og verse nga morag para sa rapture nya second coming ra ba atong gi hisgutan.
    Kasabot kos pangutana bro ... kato first reply nimo sa ako post ( Revelation ) kato nga time is During rapture ... i answer your Question regarding soldiers that pierced nga makakita gihapon to sila kay ang mga namatay during sa Rapture mabanhaw ....

    Karon ang Second Coming of Christ it will happen after the Tribulation .... Tribulation will happen after the Rapture ....

    Matthew 24:21 (21st Century King James Version)
    21For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

    Tribulation is a Seven Year in Length ( Daniel 9:24-27)

    Quote Originally Posted by Malic View Post
    "The second coming is the part where he comes down and touches earth to established his kingdom here."
    Mao ni ingon sa mga Scholar and this will happen after the Tribulation ..... Christ will rule on Earth for 1000 Years ( Revelation 20:1-6 ) with the 144,000 from Tribes of Israel ( ingon ang uban scholar this 144T is infant kay wala pani sla ka experience of Christ )

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    Quote Originally Posted by hizuka007 View Post
    Thread Closed! ky puro na bible2x

    The purpose of this thread is about the real teachings of Jesus, as written on the book of Paramahansa Yogananda, of which he meet Jesus in one of his meditation. He describe how he met Him, and have given the real meaning of those Bible verses. He even claim that the author of his book The Second Coming is Jesus. The Second Coming of Jesus will not be physical but through Christ Consciousness.

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    There will be some Bible verses that will be presented here. As you can see, there had been many interpretations of the Bible using human interpretations and using religious concept. But what I'm trying to present here, as claim by the Paramahansa Yogananda, is the real message of those verses as what Jesus relayed on him on his meditation with him having also Christ Consciousness.

    The Second Coming of Jesus will not be the reappearance in flesh but to have to have Christ Consciousness. As you can see, many generations have waited for His coming, but, nangamatay na lng sila, and more generation pa would come to wait for His Second Coming, but then, people in India and Tibet, who meditated and attained Christ Consciousness, have personally experienced Him, and that would Second Coming of Jesus in them.

    I present that here, so that people will have a choice and if He would really come back and in what way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skoilhp View Post
    There will be some Bible verses that will be presented here. As you can see, there had been many interpretations of the Bible using human interpretations and using religious concept. But what I'm trying to present here, as claim by the Paramahansa Yogananda, is the real message of those verses as what Jesus relayed on him on his meditation with him having also Christ Consciousness.
    Well Bro i get something from that being Christ Consciousness can save us from Tribulation ... God Bless Bro.

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