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    1. can you explain what is a rainbow and why we have rainbows everytime there is/are drizzle(s)?
    --- first appeared after the Flood. No Explanation from the BIBLE
    Genesis 9:13
    I have set my rainbow in the clouds, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and the earth.
    Rainbows are spectacular rays of color. Sunlight looks white, but it's really made up of different colors...red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet. The sun makes rainbows when white sunlight passes through rain drops. The raindrops act like tiny prisms. They bend the different colors in white light, so the light spreads out into a band of colors that can be reflected back to you as a rainbow.

    Three conditions must be met in order for you to see a rainbow. First, it must be raining. Second, the sun must be shining. Third, the person must be between the sun and the rain. The lower the sun is in the sky, the higher the arc of the rainbow will be.

    2. can you explain why there is volcano and why there are still growing?
    --- no such context in the Bible...
    Kebz, volcano is a mountain that opens downward to a pool of molten rock below the surface of the earth. When pressure builds up, eruptions occur. Gases and rock shoot up through the opening and spill over or fill the air with lava fragments. Eruptions can cause lateral blasts, lava flows, hot ash flows, mudslides, avalanches, falling ash and floods. Volcano eruptions have been known to knock down entire forests. An erupting volcano can trigger tsunamis, flash floods, earthquakes, mudflows and rockfalls. Constant eruption, the volcano build up and eventually grows too.

    3. can you explain earthquakes?
    --- a lot of story in the Bible sorrounding this such as the destruction such as (walls of jericho, The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, The giving of the Law to Moses... )
    No explanation...
    Of course, the bible cannot give a good explanation. Here’s why. When the plates squeeze or stretch, huge rocks form at their edges and the rocks shift with great force, causing an earthquake. Think of it this way: Imagine holding a pencil horizontally. If you were to apply a force to both ends of the pencil by pushing down on them, you would see the pencil bend. After enough force was applied, the pencil would break in the middle, releasing the stress you have put on it. The Earth's crust acts in the same way. As the plates move they put forces on themselves and each other. When the force is large enough, the crust is forced to break. When the break occurs, the stress is released as energy which moves through the Earth in the form of waves, which we feel and call an earthquake.
    4. can you explain thunderstorms and lightnings?
    --- no such context in the Bible...
    Of course the bible can’t. that’s why science gives a concise and detailed explanation. What causes a thunderstorm?
    Kebz, the basic ingredients to make a thunderstorm are moisture, unstable air and lift. You need moisture to form clouds and rain. You need unstable air that is relatively warm and can rise rapidly. Finally, you need lift. This can form from fronts, sea breezes or mountains.
    What causes lightning? Lightning is an electric current [if you don’t know that]. Within a thundercloud way up in the sky, many small bits of ice (frozen raindrops) bump into each other as they move around in the air. All of those collisions create an electric charge. After a while, the whole cloud fills up with electrical charges. Warm and Cool temperatures attracts that causes a positive charge to build up on the ground beneath the cloud. The grounds electrical charge concentrates around anything that sticks up, such as mountains, people, or single trees. The charge coming up from these points eventually connects with a charge reaching down from the clouds and - zap - lightning strikes!

    5. can you explain why there are typhoons?
    --- no such context in the Bible...
    of course, bible can’t explain it. Here’s why. As the sun warms the Earth's surface, the atmosphere warms too. Some parts of the Earth receive direct rays from the sun all year and are always warm. Other places receive indirect rays, so the climate is colder. Warm air, which weighs less than cold air, rises. Then cool air moves in and replaces the rising warm air. This movement of air is what makes the wind blow. When heat and energy through contact with warm ocean waters evaporation from the seawater thus increases their power. Then your typhoon develops.

    6. can you explain why people have different faces?
    --- no such context in the Bible...
    Human genome is different each inhabitants mutates. Resulting to a change, physical features, color, body structure or shapes. Science can explain all these to you if you read.


    My turn... please associate those questions in EVOLUTION. If you have proof much better...
    You see kebz, if there is no evolution, how would we know this entire phenomenon? The reason why there is CHANGE because every quarter of second, change will happen. Trees grow, flowers bloom, grass gets green and not. The evolution process does not stop there kebz because it happened since and it will still happen in the future. Even as we are discussing now, your brain adopts the whole process of learning, that is CHANGE a.k.a. EVOLUTION. I know you will not believe me but these are facts that you will see in your entire life not unless you stay at home and lock your door and cover all your windows then you will not see the changes happening in the environment. If, if you are going to notice the changes… then you see what I am talking about. But hey, if these explanations don’t get you to start reading the evolution process… then I have no more things to add. It’s all up to you now. READ and GET INFORMED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripwire View Post
    Rainbows are spectacular rays of color. Sunlight looks white, but it's really made up of different colors...red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet. The sun makes rainbows when white sunlight passes through rain drops. The raindrops act like tiny prisms. They bend the different colors in white light, so the light spreads out into a band of colors that can be reflected back to you as a rainbow.

    Three conditions must be met in order for you to see a rainbow. First, it must be raining. Second, the sun must be shining. Third, the person must be between the sun and the rain. The lower the sun is in the sky, the higher the arc of the rainbow will be.


    Kebz, volcano is a mountain that opens downward to a pool of molten rock below the surface of the earth. When pressure builds up, eruptions occur. Gases and rock shoot up through the opening and spill over or fill the air with lava fragments. Eruptions can cause lateral blasts, lava flows, hot ash flows, mudslides, avalanches, falling ash and floods. Volcano eruptions have been known to knock down entire forests. An erupting volcano can trigger tsunamis, flash floods, earthquakes, mudflows and rockfalls. Constant eruption, the volcano build up and eventually grows too.


    Of course, the bible cannot give a good explanation. Here’s why. When the plates squeeze or stretch, huge rocks form at their edges and the rocks shift with great force, causing an earthquake. Think of it this way: Imagine holding a pencil horizontally. If you were to apply a force to both ends of the pencil by pushing down on them, you would see the pencil bend. After enough force was applied, the pencil would break in the middle, releasing the stress you have put on it. The Earth's crust acts in the same way. As the plates move they put forces on themselves and each other. When the force is large enough, the crust is forced to break. When the break occurs, the stress is released as energy which moves through the Earth in the form of waves, which we feel and call an earthquake.

    Of course the bible can’t. that’s why science gives a concise and detailed explanation. What causes a thunderstorm?
    Kebz, the basic ingredients to make a thunderstorm are moisture, unstable air and lift. You need moisture to form clouds and rain. You need unstable air that is relatively warm and can rise rapidly. Finally, you need lift. This can form from fronts, sea breezes or mountains.
    What causes lightning? Lightning is an electric current [if you don’t know that]. Within a thundercloud way up in the sky, many small bits of ice (frozen raindrops) bump into each other as they move around in the air. All of those collisions create an electric charge. After a while, the whole cloud fills up with electrical charges. Warm and Cool temperatures attracts that causes a positive charge to build up on the ground beneath the cloud. The grounds electrical charge concentrates around anything that sticks up, such as mountains, people, or single trees. The charge coming up from these points eventually connects with a charge reaching down from the clouds and - zap - lightning strikes!

    of course, bible can’t explain it. Here’s why. As the sun warms the Earth's surface, the atmosphere warms too. Some parts of the Earth receive direct rays from the sun all year and are always warm. Other places receive indirect rays, so the climate is colder. Warm air, which weighs less than cold air, rises. Then cool air moves in and replaces the rising warm air. This movement of air is what makes the wind blow. When heat and energy through contact with warm ocean waters evaporation from the seawater thus increases their power. Then your typhoon develops.

    Human genome is different each inhabitants mutates. Resulting to a change, physical features, color, body structure or shapes. Science can explain all these to you if you read.


    You see kebz, if there is no evolution, how would we know this entire phenomenon? The reason why there is CHANGE because every quarter of second, change will happen. Trees grow, flowers bloom, grass gets green and not. The evolution process does not stop there kebz because it happened since and it will still happen in the future. Even as we are discussing now, your brain adopts the whole process of learning, that is CHANGE a.k.a. EVOLUTION. I know you will not believe me but these are facts that you will see in your entire life not unless you stay at home and lock your door and cover all your windows then you will not see the changes happening in the environment. If, if you are going to notice the changes… then you see what I am talking about. But hey, if these explanations don’t get you to start reading the evolution process… then I have no more things to add. It’s all up to you now. READ and GET INFORMED.
    "Of course the bible can’t. that’s why science gives a concise and detailed explanation"
    --- now you are saying bible is not science. Well it does not focus on science it focus on the Creator.

    "there is no evolution, how would we know this entire phenomenon?"
    --- you mean lightning before million years ago is not lightning? maybe spark? i don't know trip but if you are saying lightning, rainbow, volcano are not the same million years ago... what i do know based on your explanation are the behaviour of these phenomenon yes it is science... but where is your EVOLUTION... the things you presented do not conflict with Bible why did you ask again? Now I ask where is evolution on those phenomenon... any mutation? are they not behavior?

    In a debate a biologist in EVO DEVO trying to make evolution happen... subject is rat. they add some chemicals i don't know what they are and walla the mouse brain is bigger than the normal mouse brain... so they presented the it as evidence of evolution. Creationist said... what they are trying to do is a proof of CREATION. Those chemicals they used to make the brain happen are not possible for mouse to acquire... You see to make things happen, it requires a controlled environment and an intelligent being to administer this possibility... NOW CREATIONIST HAVE PROVEN A CREATION RATHER THAN EVOLUTION.

    Sorry, but its so lols... hahaha!

    "Even as we are discussing now, your brain adopts the whole process of learning, that is CHANGE a.k.a. EVOLUTION"
    --- eey trip you are confused about behaviour, change and evolution.

    if you are running are you evolving? well it changes your to heart beat faster.
    if you change(aka EVOLVE) dress are you evolving?

    "Change aka EVOLUTION"... hahahha funny where is evolution on that change... dont use evolution as the same level as change... its TOASTED!.

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    Trip I am not saying evolution totally never happen to nature...but it never proven to happen in the "ORIGINS". Thats what my dispute on this subject... I will die if I will not adapt to environment... that means change you may call it evolution but thats the limit to it... if you go beyond then we got a discussion... Please focus answer on previous posts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebot View Post
    Trip I am not saying evolution totally never happen to nature...but it never proven to happen in the "ORIGINS". Thats what my dispute on this subject... I will die if I will not adapt to environment... that means change you may call it evolution but thats the limit to it... if you go beyond then we got a discussion... Please focus answer on previous posts...
    na-itoy2x man ka ni trip, kebz..

    murag pinangga jud ka nya.. gi-hago-an jud ka ug explain para lng sa imong kamaayohan..

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    just because creationism is unlikely, does not mean the explanation must be evolution theory.
    THIS IS NOT EVEN about choosing which is most likely or unlikely to explain our origins as it has been established that EVOLUTION IS A FACT and that we all have to live it whether we accept it or deny it.

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    Evolution is a science. Science are the things generally agreed upon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    Evolution is a science. Science are the things generally agreed upon.
    the underlying basis of science is mathematics. and mathematics is the study of the universe, in its own existing reality. you'd be surprised and amazed to behold the magnificence and sheer beauty of the universe thru a mathematician's perspective. almost all, if not all, the great forerunners of science (which is greatly improving our society by leaps and bounds) were also in part mathematicians. ipagmalaki na jud ang math..

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    The facts of Math is undeniable. A triangle will always be a triangle no matter how many dimensions and worlds exist, but the theory of evolution is different.

    I'm not discrediting Math.

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    Quote Originally Posted by handsoff241 View Post
    The facts of Math is undeniable. A triangle will always be a triangle no matter how many dimensions and worlds exist, but the theory of evolution is different.

    I'm not discrediting Math.
    yeah, i know that hands..

    peace!

    God Bless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    na-itoy2x man ka ni trip, kebz..

    murag pinangga jud ka nya.. gi-hago-an jud ka ug explain para lng sa imong kamaayohan..
    mao lage brad, murag ma in-lab naman noa ta aning panggaon kaau ta oi.. hehehe! mura ma convert jud ko aning kalakiha to evolution... one day bsin mang latos napod ko creationist.. haha btaw oi... naa mi problema how evolution is defined in science... hulat rako iyang reply

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