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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    Well they claim to be the only truth a man can know. Its pretty hard to believe when they don't know all of the knowledge here on earth and say that they are the only source of truth. Our earth is infinitely complicated not to mention the universe unless they can claim they already know everything I would become atheist.

    Did they really claim that they are the only source of truth? di naman siguro, what is constant in them is this- "Where is the evidence" & also Faith is not evidence,

  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    Well they claim to be the only truth a man can know. Its pretty hard to believe when they don't know all of the knowledge here on earth and say that they are the only source of truth. Our earth is infinitely complicated not to mention the universe unless they can claim they already know everything I would become atheist.
    It could work both ways though but this I know Atheist also believes in blind faith.
    then their statements are not entirely accurate to have declared there is no God. i'm cool with your views that we need to exhaust the universe first before declaring if there is or no God at all.

  3. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by Lovely Charm View Post
    Atheism pala lacks belief in god/gods, not total disbelief in god? so atheist has a liitle amount of belief in god? am i right?
    lack means wala. to be without.

    define:lack

  4. #224
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    An Athiest must know 100% of all knowledge in existence in this world and the universe to conclude that there is no God.
    hence the reason why the burden of proof does not lie on the negative.
    analogy:

    case: gipasanginlan ka sa imong silingan nga nangawat ka og medyas nya imo gitago sa imong balay.

    negative proof(sock is not in your house) : to prove nga wala ka nangawat, you have to search the ENTIRE house(100% knowledge). Bisan wala nakit-an, dili mawala ang suspiscion kai basin wala diay sa balay nimo gitago, or wala nimo na-tan-aw tanan parte sa imong balay. Mao ni'y gitawag og Proof of impossibility.

    positive proof(sock is in your house) : compared to the task of your silingan, he doesn't have to search your ENTIRE house(less than 100% knowledge), he only needs to find the sock and then he can stop looking. Diha-diha daun maka prove cya sa iyang allegation. For this case, finding proof is not an impossibility.

    compare the efforts of the two cases, imagina ang balay kai ang entire universe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    Man is not even close to knowing 10% of the all the possible knowledge here on earth.
    I think Atheism is just a cult because of this baseless standpoint that they so badly put their faith in the belief there is no God. They are also branded as Anti religious Cult.
    care to share with us where you got your definition of a cult?


    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    More or less they are socialist. Not adhering or questing for truth and reason but what is socially acceptable among atheist themselves as well.
    I think you got it in reverse.

    "When faced with evidence contradictory to the bible, the bible's perspective is to take precedence." - ring a bell?

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    A wise analogy, the problem is, a house is a finite entity while the universe is, as of now, infinite. And the knowledge that is required to satisfy it is unmeasurable.

  6. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    Atheism and Agnosticism are not mutually exclusive.
    Like I said before, atheism does NOT logically follow from agnosticism.

    In fact, if one claims, like many atheists, that God does not in fact exist (they know He does not or cannot exist), then that is no longer agnosticism (because one then knows).

    Only a neutral position logically follows from agnosticism. Atheism is irrational.

  7. #227
    sa akong pagsabot ang agnosticism is not the same as atheism. ang agnosticism kay ang pagkahibawo nimo kung naa bay ginoo o wala. nya ang atheism kay ang pagtuo nga walay ginoo. so, ang pagkahibawo dili pareha sa pagtuo. mao ni akong pagsabot.

  8. #228
    yep. even more irrational than unicorns, dragons, giants, and all sorts of invisible friends. yah?

    Genesis 6:4
    Job 39:9–12
    Jeremiah 9:11

  9. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    lack means wala. to be without.

    define:lack

    Kuya schmuck Lack means deficient, am i right? sa tagalog kulang, sa bisaya kuwang,
    its not "wala" or to be without na sinabi mo, but wait i must not be updated w/ the new vocabulary nowadays so correct if im wrong ha,
    pero LACK means- the fact or state of being wanting or deficient,

    To be without is not a thing, not lacking something, tama ba ako?

  10. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by Lovely Charm View Post
    Kuya schmuck Lack means deficient, am i right? sa tagalog kulang, sa bisaya kuwang,
    its not "wala" or to be without na sinabi mo, but wait i must not be updated w/ the new vocabulary nowadays so correct if im wrong ha,
    pero LACK means- the fact or state of being wanting or deficient,

    To be without is not a thing, not lacking something, tama ba ako?
    wag po, ate :P

    depende diay sa pag-gamit og context. lack can be used to mean missing(wala) or deficient(kulang).

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