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  1. #211

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovely Charm View Post
    @ Schumck,
    Your statement: "how can you reject sometinhg w/c isnt there",,
    Now as to the words "isnt there" is this a statement in contrast w/ people who claim "its there"?
    Or also a statement coming from your sound observation & resonableness?
    I mean one day after thorough investigation, exhausting all possible means you finally realized it "isnt there" can this be part of your "isnt there" statement? or purely a statement in contrast w/ the theist lang?
    now we are clear that you are not rejecting god per se but the notions/concepts about god.
    So what are you,,,? Agnostic, Atheist, or simply a rebel to unreasonable claims?
    IF we go by definitions, an atheist lacks belief in god/gods. My rejection of the idea of god, as something illogical and unreasonable, follows that I lack belief in the existence of god.
    I am an atheist.
    On the other hand, an agnostic, acknowledges that these things are unknowable. I also share the same position.
    So, I am also an agnostic.

    Atheism and Agnosticism are not mutually exclusive.

  2. #212
    ano ba talaga kuya?

  3. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by schmuck View Post
    IF we go by definitions, an atheist lacks belief in god/gods. My rejection of the idea of god, as something illogical and unreasonable, follows that I lack belief in the existence of god.
    I am an atheist.
    On the other hand, an agnostic, acknowledges that these things are unknowable. I also share the same position.
    So, I am also an agnostic.

    Atheism and Agnosticism are not mutually exclusive.

    Atheism pala lacks belief in god/gods, not total disbelief in god? so atheist has a liitle amount of belief in god? am i right?

  4. #214
    An Athiest must know 100% of all knowledge in existence in this world and the universe to conclude that there is no God.
    Man is not even close to knowing 10% of the all the possible knowledge here on earth.
    I think Atheism is just a cult because of this baseless standpoint that they so badly put their faith in the belief there is no God. They are also branded as Anti religious Cult.
    More or less they are socialist. Not adhering or questing for truth and reason but what is socially acceptable among atheist themselves as well.
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 06-27-2009 at 03:42 PM.

  5. #215
    like they said sir kenshiro, the burden of the proof lies with the theists.

    but it could also work both ways, right sir? the burden of disproof lies with the atheists.

  6. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenshiro View Post
    An Athiest must know 100% of all knowledge in existence in this world and the universe to conclude that there is no God.
    Man is not even close to knowing 10% of the all the possible knowledge here on earth.
    I think Atheism is just a cult because of this baseless standpoint that they so badly put their faith in the belief there is no God. They are also branded as Anti religious Cult.
    More or less they are socialist. Not adhering or questing for truth and reason but what is socially acceptable among atheist themselves as well.


    I think your statement applies to both the theist & atheist, never to atheist alone,

  7. #217
    like i said, it could work both ways.

  8. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellblazer 2.1 View Post
    like they said sir kenshiro, the burden of the proof lies with the theists.

    but it could also work both ways, right sir? the burden of disproof lies with the atheists.
    Not necessarily.
    That is what most atheist know though.

  9. #219
    then what do the few atheists know? like those who don't belong to the "most" category.

  10. #220
    Well they claim to be the only truth a man can know. Its pretty hard to believe when they don't know all of the knowledge here on earth and say that they are the only source of truth. Our earth is infinitely complicated not to mention the universe unless they can claim they already know everything I would become atheist.
    It could work both ways though but this I know Atheist also believes in blind faith.
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 06-27-2009 at 04:07 PM.

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