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  1. #491

    Quote Originally Posted by AshiWazaa! View Post
    haha. kay ngano diay? d sad diay kono ka ma throw ni noy2x? pag sure oi! haha. d nq ma tingala ngano ma throw me ana nya. kaila bya meg tao nga ma abilidad. okay ra kung c noy2x mang hambug kay kamao man, nya ikaw? unsay talent nimo? wahaha. blackbelt raka diri sa forums lol.

    PS: ayaw nlng ko hagda og randori kay retire nq anang judo hehe. i both praktis in abellana and usc sauna.
    hoy wala jud ko nanghambug nga blackbelt ko. Ga sugod pako. Pero hinoon naka hunan huna ko nga mobalhin sa USC kay dali ra daw ma blackbelt didto. Duha singko kuno ang blackbelt ngadto.

    Dili pud ko manghada nimo ug randori basin takisan ko nimo beginer baya ko. Mao man daw na ang taga USC, wala pa gani nakat on ug judo ning retire na bwahahaha

  2. #492
    Mayabang itong si Sanshiro. Kung magsalita akala mo summa cum laude. Yon pala saksakan ng duwag. Akala ko ba Jigoro Kano teachings ang tinuturo sa USC? Hindi ba nila alam na a Judoka specially if junior should not refuse a senior judoka pag niyaya ka ng randori. Bakit ayaw ni Sanshiro makipag randori kay Tracy? Takot ba siya? Sa tingin ko duwag talaga. Ayaw nga e addressed ang challenged sa kanya. No wonder walang accomplishment ang club ninyo. Tama si Yawara wal ngang rate ang club ninyo. Ang challenge to a randori is a matter of Honor. Wala noon si Sanshiro. Walang Honor. Puro lang hangin, pagmamayabang na sa tingin ko otot lang ang maibubuga.

  3. #493
    @jamby

    are u from cebu? if not? then u should stop interfering with the issues here in cebu judo community. your posts here doesnt help resolve the problems here so mind your own business.

  4. #494
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamby View Post
    Mayabang itong si Sanshiro. Kung magsalita akala mo summa cum laude. Yon pala saksakan ng duwag. Akala ko ba Jigoro Kano teachings ang tinuturo sa USC? Hindi ba nila alam na a Judoka specially if junior should not refuse a senior judoka pag niyaya ka ng randori. Bakit ayaw ni Sanshiro makipag randori kay Tracy? Takot ba siya? Sa tingin ko duwag talaga. Ayaw nga e addressed ang challenged sa kanya. No wonder walang accomplishment ang club ninyo. Tama si Yawara wal ngang rate ang club ninyo. Ang challenge to a randori is a matter of Honor. Wala noon si Sanshiro. Walang Honor. Puro lang hangin, pagmamayabang na sa tingin ko otot lang ang maibubuga.
    Jamby, stay out of this issue. YOU are not from Cebu and you don't definitely understand the philosophy of JUDO. If you really understand Judo, How can you look down to other Judo clubs? You don't have the right to judge any club no matter how different they are. As long as they are not doing anything wrong then SHUT UP! It goes to show you are conceited and arrogant and I just hope you are not a blackbelt. Because if you do, you are a disgrace judoka. You are just like Yawara. You are an arrogant, immature and a self-righteous bitch who doesn't know how to think. The only thing you are good at is bragging. Have mercy on yourself, that's all I ask. For a change, please act like your own age. If I can still hear from you again, I will definitely report you to your superior.

  5. #495
    Quote Originally Posted by Yawara View Post
    Weak mind na kung weak mind dili man pag skuwela ato gi storyahan diri. Judo oi kalimot ka. Judoka man kaha ka? Tubaga ngano di man ka makig randori ni Sir Tracy nga murag nakaminos ka? KAY TALAWAN KA. KUNG ININGLES PA "YELLOW". SA bINISAYA "bahag ang ikog". Imo ra gi confirm ang trademark ninyo.
    If that's what you say Yawara, you are an uneducated Judoka. Judoka should act professionals and it seems you have an attitude problem. Yawara, my friend, be careful what you wish for; or else, I'll be your worst nightmare. I just want to spare you from any unnecessary roughness.

    Cheers!

  6. #496

    Default Mutual welfare and benefit

    How can we be united if jamby and yawara's statement tells us that the only means of survival is through aggression and force? This goes against the second philosophy of Kano: Mutual welfare and benefit. Cebu Judoka, Will you allow this arrogance to exist in the Judo world? will you allow them to succeed their destructive philosophies? Let me share you something about Sensei Kano's "JITA KYOEI".

    JITA-KYOEI (Perfection of One's Self and Mutual Welfare and Benefit)

    Kano's ideal of Judo and education consisted in "perfecting one's self and benefitting the world", and the foundation of his conviction was to co-ordinate the two principles, as expressed in his own words: "In order to perfect myself I do not for a moment forget to be of service to the world". Also, "I will dedicate my future activities to the service of society, and for this purpose I shall strive to build up my character, and form a firm foundation for my life". This declaration, so openly made can only be made by a man of firm convictions and unusual greatness like Jigoro Kano. However, he also strongly persuaded others to do likewise. Whatever he firmly believed in doing he eventually counseled others to follow.

    We shall now investigate what "perfection of one's self" means. According to Kano it means, first of all, "the object of life is to become spiritually and physically well developed, and attain the highest possible satisfaction which today's culture is able to offer". Those who have attained this objective have done so through perfecting their own Self.

    However, it must be borne in mind that" perfecting one's self" does not imply being egocentric. "If everybody does whatever lie pleases there will be collisions everywhere", and self-perfection cannot be attained. Also, "even by obtaining prosperity and satisfaction for one's own self, one cannot attain self perfection." Self-perfection cannot be attained by disregarding one's relation to others. Kano consistently advocated "service to humanity". The basis upon which is found his conviction in laving importance to society side by side with one's self is as follows: "Peace and security cannot be obtained if one were to live absolutely separated from society". "In order to attain self-perfection it is absolutely necessary to desire for the continuation of life with society". But for that, one must possess the "fundamental conditions for social life", and as these conditions he mentioned "mutual help and mutual concession". "Man, when standing alone is helpless, but together with society and with mutual assistance lie is able to do things which are quite impossible when isolated from society....... Therefore, only through mutual concession and co-operation a solidarity based on mutual trust may be formed". Thus, he was firmly convinced that an individual can attain self-perfection as a worthy member of society, and for this reason he strongly advocated "Mutual assistance and mutual concession" which were its fundamental principles of social life. In all probability this is a great ideal and will serve to solve the present day social problems by helping create a democratic liuii-ian relationship which is also the fundamental ideology of modern physical education.

    Kano firmly believed that through fulfilment of the above mentioned conditions an ideal state of human existence of which consists of "mutual welfare and benefit" and "co-existence" may be attained, for the realization of which he endeavored throughout his long life.

    He explained his slogan "mutual welfare and benefit" as, to attain one's own welfare and benefit, together with the welfare and benefit of others, and thereby attaining welfare and benefit for everyone" and adds that, "therein lies prosperity and development of society".

    It is now necessary to clarify the meaning of the words, "mutual", and welfare and benefit", the ideals or the objectives of his principle of "mutual welfare and benefit". First, we shall consider "welfare and benefit". According to Kano, it means attaining perfection both physically and spiritually. In other words, according to Kano's explanation, "It is a condition attained when one is physically healthy and well developed, and in possession of high intellect and morals, together with a highly developed ability to appreciate beauty. Socially, one must have the adequate means to appreciate and enjoy the benefits offered by modern civilization, and furthermore, one must have the love and respect of others, so that people will freely and willingly comply with his wishes, in short an influential man". He further adds that a man who has attained this condition of "welfare and benefit" is "one who as a human being has attained the acme of his desire". This condition is an ideal which every man seeks to attain, however, what Kano emphasized is that the attainment of such a condition becomes of any value only when done, not by an egocentric motive, but by an altruistic motive. In other words, "those seeking welfare and benefit must do so with the desire that others may also obtain welfare and benefit".

    Kano consistently emphasized that altruism should always accompany self-interest, and his others", the object of altruism has a very wide concept. It extends from "the other person", the other community", the "other country" to the whole of humanity. Although, as stated above, there are various kinds of "others" as opposed to "self", and all of these "others" must be taken into consideration, and efforts must be made in order to attain welfare and benefit together with them; in other words, "mutual welfare and benefit". However, this is only a general concept and in actuality it is sometimes not feasible as when "one nation is hostile to another." In such instances one must endeavor so that one's own country will be as little harmed as possible by the other, and as a positive measure, one must always bear in mind, above all, the welfare of one's own country". Herein lies the gap between ideal and actuality, however, he is explicit in his statement that even under such circumstances an aggressive attitude is to be avoided. His article in the November, 1922 issue of "Judo" stated as follows: "In the past, many nations used aggression as a means of promoting national prestige. Their only concern was the expansion and prosperity of their own country at the expense of other weaker nations, and constantly watched for an opportunity to prey upon their unsuspecting victims". This kind of policy results in "every nation watching each other with vigilant hostility", However, at present, a nation which openly adopts such an aggressive policy must be prepared to antagonize the "whole world. And if aggression is secretly being contemplated by a nation, it will naturally lose the confidence of other nations, and international relations will deteriorate".

    From the same standpoint, Kano commented on armaments. Since, at present, not all nations have adopted the principle of mutual prosperity, complete disarmament is not feasible. Consequently, military preparedness is necessary as a defensive measure. However, "there is a great difference between preparedness for aggression and preparedness for defense", and adds that "armament must be based on self-defense and not on aggression." In short, international relations must be based on "mutual welfare and benefit". His completely pacifistic ideal is manifested by his statement that "a nation should be loved, respected and trusted by other nations. Internally, it should strive for cultural development and repletion of wealth.

    This principle should be adopted not only by nations, but by individuals also, because, " long as an individual is a constituent member of a nation he should not stand aloof from the policies of this country" and his principle of "mutual welfare and benefit" should be applied to the relation between self and nation, and also between self and society. As already mentioned Kano, early in his career, advocated that "self perfection" must go band in band with" service to humanity". For example, he wrote that "The standard of human activities must be based on self-perfection and service to humanity" . Also, "In order to truly benefit oneself, one must also take into consideration the benefit of society. The greatest prosperity to oneself can only be attained through service to humanity". However, a weak person cannot benefit humanity, one must have the capacity to do so, and of this he said that "A person who is not able to look after himself cannot do anything to benefit the world in order to give the full benefit of one's effort of service to others one must take into consideration one's own welfare at the same time". Consequently, in order to obtain the highest efficiency of one's activities the best road to success is through "mutual prosperity". He consistently advocated "mutual welfare and benefit" as the ideal in the relation between the individual and society. Accordingly he categorically opposed a philosophy like "survival of the fittest". This outlook on life and the world is of great importance to modern society, especially, his view that without self perfection one is powerless to be of service to humanity, is replete with useful suggestions to modern democratic society.

    So far, we have seen Kano's philosophy of the relation between one nation and another, and also the relation between an individual and society. On the relation between one individual and another, he also advocated the philosophy of "mutual welfare and benefit". "The people we come into contact daily are individually just another person". In the practice of "mutual welfare and benefit" one's own relation to society, nation, and humanity naturally should be taken into consideration, but in actuality, efforts must be concentrated on the mutual welfare and benefit in relation to other individuals.

    The "mutual welfare and benefit" in relation to other individuals consists in "mutual help and mutual concession". "If everyone does things according to his own liking, confusion will be the result-everyone must strive for his own perfection as well as for the development and prosperity of others" In other words, the manifestation of the ideal relation between one individual and another is "mutual welfare and benefit". III order to attain this goal, Kano advocated the practice of "mutual help" and "mutual concession". Only nowadays, we hear much about "interdependence" and "co-existence", however, Kano had already, throughout his life advocated and actually practiced these principles. It is about time, that we in our modern times should strive to practice Kano's lofty ideal.

    Kano attempted to realize this fundamental ideal through Judo, as expressed in the following words, "The ultimate object of Judo, is also the ultimate object of man", in other words "to perfect one's self, and serve humanity". Regarding this, he said that "The two do not seem to be compatible", however, in reality, the two harmonize very well. Only a person who has attained self perfection can be of any consequence to humanity. Self-perfection and service to humanity are not unrelated to each other the two are complementary those practicing Judo must constantly bear in mind and endeavor for self-perfection and service to society.

    If Jamby and Yawara still cannot understand Sensei Kano's philosophy, you bring a disgrace not only to the Cebu judo chapter but to the entire Judo world.

    "If you think you are good enough, you have just started your decline."

    "Thus the principle of Judo, from the very beginning, is not one of aggression, but of flowing with things." Carl B. Becker

    I thought all the time
    I was learning how to win;
    But I realize now:
    To win is no more,
    No less, than to lose.

  7. #497
    Quote Originally Posted by sanshiro View Post
    If that's what you say Yawara, you are an uneducated Judoka. Judoka should act professionals and it seems you have an attitude problem. Yawara, my friend, be careful what you wish for; or else, I'll be your worst nightmare. I just want to spare you from any unnecessary roughness.

    Cheers!
    educated lagi ka. taronga lang nang iningles nimo kay mura kag trying hard nga pinoy. Maayo pa binisaya nalang para dili ka magkapuliki ug iningles. Mura ra ba ug inihap ra na bwahahaha

    Nya ayaw pang hulga part. Kahibaw ko usa ka sa mga blackbelt sa USC pero wala man ko nasilaw anang mga blackbelt diha. Pa randori hon bitaw ka kay sir Tracy kakak man ka. Ikaw akong worst nighmare? Sus pagkabatih seguro nimo ug nawong noh kay bangungoton gud ko bwahahaha

    Ug tinooray na imo panghulga adto ug abellana nya ipakita imo abilidad kay sure kaau ko nga makapakita nasad mo sa inyo abilidad sa falling hahahaha

    Kapoy kaayo nang trying hard ta mag iningles nya magpa kuno kuno nga bright and educated pero DILI MAUWAW mo sul ob ug blackbelt nga colorum. Usa ka ka dakung PEKE.

  8. #498
    Quote Originally Posted by sanshiro View Post
    How can we be united if jamby and yawara's statement tells us that the only means of survival is through aggression and force? This goes against the second philosophy of Kano: Mutual welfare and benefit. Cebu Judoka, Will you allow this arrogance to exist in the Judo world? will you allow them to succeed their destructive philosophies? Let me share you something about Sensei Kano's "JITA KYOEI".

    JITA-KYOEI (Perfection of One's Self and Mutual Welfare and Benefit)

    Kano's ideal of Judo and education consisted in "perfecting one's self and benefitting the world", and the foundation of his conviction was to co-ordinate the two principles, as expressed in his own words: "In order to perfect myself I do not for a moment forget to be of service to the world". Also, "I will dedicate my future activities to the service of society, and for this purpose I shall strive to build up my character, and form a firm foundation for my life". This declaration, so openly made can only be made by a man of firm convictions and unusual greatness like Jigoro Kano. However, he also strongly persuaded others to do likewise. Whatever he firmly believed in doing he eventually counseled others to follow.

    We shall now investigate what "perfection of one's self" means. According to Kano it means, first of all, "the object of life is to become spiritually and physically well developed, and attain the highest possible satisfaction which today's culture is able to offer". Those who have attained this objective have done so through perfecting their own Self.

    However, it must be borne in mind that" perfecting one's self" does not imply being egocentric. "If everybody does whatever lie pleases there will be collisions everywhere", and self-perfection cannot be attained. Also, "even by obtaining prosperity and satisfaction for one's own self, one cannot attain self perfection." Self-perfection cannot be attained by disregarding one's relation to others. Kano consistently advocated "service to humanity". The basis upon which is found his conviction in laving importance to society side by side with one's self is as follows: "Peace and security cannot be obtained if one were to live absolutely separated from society". "In order to attain self-perfection it is absolutely necessary to desire for the continuation of life with society". But for that, one must possess the "fundamental conditions for social life", and as these conditions he mentioned "mutual help and mutual concession". "Man, when standing alone is helpless, but together with society and with mutual assistance lie is able to do things which are quite impossible when isolated from society....... Therefore, only through mutual concession and co-operation a solidarity based on mutual trust may be formed". Thus, he was firmly convinced that an individual can attain self-perfection as a worthy member of society, and for this reason he strongly advocated "Mutual assistance and mutual concession" which were its fundamental principles of social life. In all probability this is a great ideal and will serve to solve the present day social problems by helping create a democratic liuii-ian relationship which is also the fundamental ideology of modern physical education.

    Kano firmly believed that through fulfilment of the above mentioned conditions an ideal state of human existence of which consists of "mutual welfare and benefit" and "co-existence" may be attained, for the realization of which he endeavored throughout his long life.

    He explained his slogan "mutual welfare and benefit" as, to attain one's own welfare and benefit, together with the welfare and benefit of others, and thereby attaining welfare and benefit for everyone" and adds that, "therein lies prosperity and development of society".

    It is now necessary to clarify the meaning of the words, "mutual", and welfare and benefit", the ideals or the objectives of his principle of "mutual welfare and benefit". First, we shall consider "welfare and benefit". According to Kano, it means attaining perfection both physically and spiritually. In other words, according to Kano's explanation, "It is a condition attained when one is physically healthy and well developed, and in possession of high intellect and morals, together with a highly developed ability to appreciate beauty. Socially, one must have the adequate means to appreciate and enjoy the benefits offered by modern civilization, and furthermore, one must have the love and respect of others, so that people will freely and willingly comply with his wishes, in short an influential man". He further adds that a man who has attained this condition of "welfare and benefit" is "one who as a human being has attained the acme of his desire". This condition is an ideal which every man seeks to attain, however, what Kano emphasized is that the attainment of such a condition becomes of any value only when done, not by an egocentric motive, but by an altruistic motive. In other words, "those seeking welfare and benefit must do so with the desire that others may also obtain welfare and benefit".

    Kano consistently emphasized that altruism should always accompany self-interest, and his others", the object of altruism has a very wide concept. It extends from "the other person", the other community", the "other country" to the whole of humanity. Although, as stated above, there are various kinds of "others" as opposed to "self", and all of these "others" must be taken into consideration, and efforts must be made in order to attain welfare and benefit together with them; in other words, "mutual welfare and benefit". However, this is only a general concept and in actuality it is sometimes not feasible as when "one nation is hostile to another." In such instances one must endeavor so that one's own country will be as little harmed as possible by the other, and as a positive measure, one must always bear in mind, above all, the welfare of one's own country". Herein lies the gap between ideal and actuality, however, he is explicit in his statement that even under such circumstances an aggressive attitude is to be avoided. His article in the November, 1922 issue of "Judo" stated as follows: "In the past, many nations used aggression as a means of promoting national prestige. Their only concern was the expansion and prosperity of their own country at the expense of other weaker nations, and constantly watched for an opportunity to prey upon their unsuspecting victims". This kind of policy results in "every nation watching each other with vigilant hostility", However, at present, a nation which openly adopts such an aggressive policy must be prepared to antagonize the "whole world. And if aggression is secretly being contemplated by a nation, it will naturally lose the confidence of other nations, and international relations will deteriorate".

    From the same standpoint, Kano commented on armaments. Since, at present, not all nations have adopted the principle of mutual prosperity, complete disarmament is not feasible. Consequently, military preparedness is necessary as a defensive measure. However, "there is a great difference between preparedness for aggression and preparedness for defense", and adds that "armament must be based on self-defense and not on aggression." In short, international relations must be based on "mutual welfare and benefit". His completely pacifistic ideal is manifested by his statement that "a nation should be loved, respected and trusted by other nations. Internally, it should strive for cultural development and repletion of wealth.

    This principle should be adopted not only by nations, but by individuals also, because, " long as an individual is a constituent member of a nation he should not stand aloof from the policies of this country" and his principle of "mutual welfare and benefit" should be applied to the relation between self and nation, and also between self and society. As already mentioned Kano, early in his career, advocated that "self perfection" must go band in band with" service to humanity". For example, he wrote that "The standard of human activities must be based on self-perfection and service to humanity" . Also, "In order to truly benefit oneself, one must also take into consideration the benefit of society. The greatest prosperity to oneself can only be attained through service to humanity". However, a weak person cannot benefit humanity, one must have the capacity to do so, and of this he said that "A person who is not able to look after himself cannot do anything to benefit the world in order to give the full benefit of one's effort of service to others one must take into consideration one's own welfare at the same time". Consequently, in order to obtain the highest efficiency of one's activities the best road to success is through "mutual prosperity". He consistently advocated "mutual welfare and benefit" as the ideal in the relation between the individual and society. Accordingly he categorically opposed a philosophy like "survival of the fittest". This outlook on life and the world is of great importance to modern society, especially, his view that without self perfection one is powerless to be of service to humanity, is replete with useful suggestions to modern democratic society.

    So far, we have seen Kano's philosophy of the relation between one nation and another, and also the relation between an individual and society. On the relation between one individual and another, he also advocated the philosophy of "mutual welfare and benefit". "The people we come into contact daily are individually just another person". In the practice of "mutual welfare and benefit" one's own relation to society, nation, and humanity naturally should be taken into consideration, but in actuality, efforts must be concentrated on the mutual welfare and benefit in relation to other individuals.

    The "mutual welfare and benefit" in relation to other individuals consists in "mutual help and mutual concession". "If everyone does things according to his own liking, confusion will be the result-everyone must strive for his own perfection as well as for the development and prosperity of others" In other words, the manifestation of the ideal relation between one individual and another is "mutual welfare and benefit". III order to attain this goal, Kano advocated the practice of "mutual help" and "mutual concession". Only nowadays, we hear much about "interdependence" and "co-existence", however, Kano had already, throughout his life advocated and actually practiced these principles. It is about time, that we in our modern times should strive to practice Kano's lofty ideal.

    Kano attempted to realize this fundamental ideal through Judo, as expressed in the following words, "The ultimate object of Judo, is also the ultimate object of man", in other words "to perfect one's self, and serve humanity". Regarding this, he said that "The two do not seem to be compatible", however, in reality, the two harmonize very well. Only a person who has attained self perfection can be of any consequence to humanity. Self-perfection and service to humanity are not unrelated to each other the two are complementary those practicing Judo must constantly bear in mind and endeavor for self-perfection and service to society.

    If Jamby and Yawara still cannot understand Sensei Kano's philosophy, you bring a disgrace not only to the Cebu judo chapter but to the entire Judo world.

    "If you think you are good enough, you have just started your decline."

    "Thus the principle of Judo, from the very beginning, is not one of aggression, but of flowing with things." Carl B. Becker

    I thought all the time
    I was learning how to win;
    But I realize now:
    To win is no more,
    No less, than to lose.
    PAGKA BRIGHT NIMO DOH! NGILNGIG KAAU KA UG TERM PAPER DAH! ASA TO NIMO GI KOPYA? HAHAHA. BISAG UNSAON TALAWAN JUD KA. WALA TAWN KO NAG AGHAT NIMO NGA MAGPATAY MO NI SIR TRACY. RANDORI RA. NYA AGGRESSION DIAY NAH? NGANO APIL MAN NA SA TRAINING SA JUDO KUNG AGGRESSION NAH? BRIGHT MAN KAHA KA HALA SABTA.

  9. #499
    sus. pagka baboy nlng jud! tsk3x. tarongon og storya mag inamaw man nuon. balik sa imong tangkal oi!

  10. #500
    @ashiwaza

    bai? kinsa ka? pm me your name. pls refrain lng from insulting ppl here kay ma pagan ka ana hehe. im guessing u like leg techniques kay ashi waza man ka? hehe. we have something in common diay ^_^

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