Why did you convert to whatever your religion now?

[kebot]

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The use of "in" here means within(sulod). I did not mean instant death. Just that "in" same the day that they eat the fruit they die.
"For in the day" does not mean they die starting that day. It means they will die in that day.

Sample:
Your package will arrive in the week after this week.
Means nga muabot ang package sa kanang semanaha.

Well I cannot argue about English brad. It is my most difficult subject all-time. Ill try again ha...


For In this day you will enjoy your life. <---- trying to use the For to make it complete brad.

I believe it means, Starting that day...


For In this day you will win lotto.

I do not know if sak2 ni brad. Sugod aning adlawa cge naka daug og lotto...

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Ok it might mean brad, starting today (adam and eve) you will start to die. We grow older and older then we die right? I do not know brad.

You see, interpretation makes it wrong... the difference of "IN" word makes God a Liar as what you have wanted to achieve. But those word are still translated. As i have said try to find the Hebrew Statement...
It is because we are not expert.

Tell you my secret. Reading the Bible with bad intention is not gonna give you a correct thought. Again its already a one sided intention. But, It will never qualify your motives. The interpretation I gave you is to qualify that God is not Lying, Your interpretation God is Lying. So we got 2 versions brad right? does it mean sayop ko? and does it mean sayop ka? well to find out, I do not have to prove to you Im wrong coz i dont believe its wrong... It is up to you to prove to us that it is indeed LYING why because we do not have a problem about the Bible. You just cannot pass the obligation to us because we do not care what you believe. If you argue then prove us we are wrong... because we have to version you have to provide evidence that we are wrong at the sametime I do not need to prove to you that you are wrong because I do not care on what you believe in now it becomes your Obligation to prove to us. So long as our interpretation is standing then we have to version at hand.

[kebot]

Truth is I already know the answer. I'm testing if you do.

Answer? The bible has contradictions.

ok shoot, what is your question?

What Did my God do to you? why are you so destined to destroy Our Faith? Our Faith is written on the Bible if you say it is wrong you are telling me I am wrong. Right? what did he do to you?

[bodie]

Brad does it mean its you against the world? Athiest is still a religion brad. A doctrine of having no God (IMO rani but yea i think they call it that) anyways. You are persecuted by your families brad because you do not live in the moral of what they know is right for you. But then again its your life. Your Persecution is around your family and friends but for those who do not know you doesn't even care... right? In history brad Christians are persecuted, burn at stakes crucified .. blah blah blah... and these are massive scale brad. Don't validate your persecution against us Christians because we dont even care if you believe on what we believe. WHAT I KNOW IS THAT ATHIEST ARE FRUSTRATED IN DESTROYING THE BIBLE YOU CAN SEE THE POSTS ALL OVER. Because they speak for itself.

You got a nice story brad. But you have to deal with your family and friends... they are the one who cared for you. Its up to you, its your choice.

On the contrary, my family supports my choice despite being catholics. They believe in finding my own path. But enough about them, thats not relevant anyway.

Im not validating my persecution, I even said that I didnt consider myself persecuted in the first place. Theres no need to bring past atrocities here. In the final analysis, crimes against a larger number of people is still a crime. Dili ni padakanay bai.

As for christians not caring about what we believe in, the posts here paint a different picture. The fact that we question the bible, the fact the we question the churches teaching, the fact that we deny the existence of a higher offends most theists on some level. Why, because we deny something that you hold dear in your heart. Something, as you said, some consider more precious than their own life.

Again, I wont argue with you on the bible. Im not looking for a heated discussion right now. Pero try to see things from our perspective sad.

[schmuck]

What Did my God do to you? why are you so destined to destroy Our Faith? Our Faith is written on the Bible if you say it is wrong you are telling me I am wrong. Right? what did he do to you?

1. nothing
2. am I destroying your faith? I think I answered already, questioning your faith does not equal destroying. If you feel threatened, then it may be because you're not so sure about what you believe in the first place.
3. bible has contradictions, therefore you're belief has contradictions.
4. nothing

my turn, why do you believe what you believe and just easily dismiss the other belief systems?

[tripwire]

Brad does it mean its you against the world? Athiest is still a religion brad. A doctrine of having no God (IMO rani but yea i think they call it that) anyways.

Can I add something. First, I am an atheist but let me cite one tiny detail about atheist or atheism. some of us believed that having a doctrine makes it religious but where is it in their constitution that it's a doctrine? First, there are so many definitions of doctrine. One I that can give is that it is being a principle or a branch of knowledge in a system of beliefs. It is not obligated to have a pattern of beliefs like we christians do but their beliefs are enormously obligated to do one thing, there is no God. Simple as that.

You are persecuted by your families brad because you do not live in the moral of what they know is right for you. But then again its your life.

What is moral to you if you don't compensate what others believe? Morals can be achieved in any means with or without God's help or guidance. People ar so unreserve when one a person will find what is truth for them. It's easy to judge than be judged, correct?

Your Persecution is around your family and friends but for those who do not know you doesn't even care... right?

Again, it's easy to judge and be judged...

In history brad Christians are persecuted, burn at stakes crucified .. blah blah blah... and these are massive scale brad. Don't validate your persecution against us Christians because we dont even care if you believe on what we believe. WHAT I KNOW IS THAT ATHIEST ARE FRUSTRATED IN DESTROYING THE BIBLE YOU CAN SEE THE POSTS ALL OVER. Because they speak for itself.

In history also "christians" were the worst persecutors. One example is our own history with the spaniards. If no one believes what they believe... they call them heretics, ignorants, indios, and sorts and even rape, kill and steal treasures for their beliefs.

Atheists are not frustrated in destroying the Bible... they are however persecuted by christians even in the begining of time. It is by the way the other way around because they are few in numbers against many. I have an atheist friend and mind you she does not discuss religion because for them it's a waste of their time. What you can do is try to understand who they are and what they are. You can never coexist to a human being if your attitude towards others is all about grievances.

[kebot]

Can I add something. First, I am an atheist but let me cite one tiny detail about atheist or atheism. some of us believed that having a doctrine makes it religious but where is it in their constitution that it's a doctrine? First, there are so many definitions of doctrine. One I that can give is that it is being a principle or a branch of knowledge in a system of beliefs. It is not obligated to have a pattern of beliefs like we christians do but their beliefs are enormously obligated to do one thing, there is no God. Simple as that.


What is moral to you if you don't compensate what others believe? Morals can be achieved in any means with or without God's help or guidance. People ar so unreserve when one a person will find what is truth for them. It's easy to judge than be judged, correct?


Again, it's easy to judge and be judged...




In history also "christians" were the worst persecutors. One example is our own history with the spaniards. If no one believes what they believe... they call them heretics, ignorants, indios, and sorts and even rape, kill and steal treasures for their beliefs.

Atheists are not frustrated in destroying the Bible... they are however persecuted by christians even in the begining of time. It is by the way the other way around because they are few in numbers against many. I have an atheist friend and mind you she does not discuss religion because for them it's a waste of their time. What you can do is try to understand who they are and what they are. You can never coexist to a human being if your attitude towards others is all about grievances.

I did not judge him brad. it is his family, i only qouted him.

Persecutors, Maybe you just don't get it. The things you did are against the doctrine of the Bible. Oh hell yeah they did bring Christianity with them. Even the devil brad can desguise as God and Make miracles. I agree with you brad that most Christians are not living a Christian life but they claim to be christians... Me my self I do not have the qualities of the Christian Brad. Not One Criteria I can be Proud of. But it doesnt mean I will stop and give up my FAITH. What Did the Protestants did that the world hated? I hope you can site one... if not then dont Generalize Christians as FOLLOWING THE COMMANDMENTS OF CHRIST. You can claim to be Christian right? Does it makes any difference? O yes, It means to say you are faking it...

Brad because of differences it doesn't mean we cannot love each other right?

[bluedes]

I did not judge him brad. it is his family, i only qouted him.

Persecutors, Maybe you just don't get it. The things you did are against the doctrine of the Bible. Oh hell yeah they did bring Christianity with them. Even the devil brad can desguise as God and Make miracles. I agree with you brad that most Christians are not living a Christian life but they claim to be christians... Me my self I do not have the qualities of the Christian Brad. Not One Criteria I can be Proud of. But it doesnt mean I will stop and give up my FAITH. What Did the Protestants did that the world hated? I hope you can site one... if not then dont Generalize Christians as FOLLOWING THE COMMANDMENTS OF CHRIST. You can claim to be Christian right? Does it makes any difference? O yes, It means to say you are faking it...

Brad because of differences it doesn't mean we cannot love each other right?

Read History on the Reformation brad.. the protestants ransacked Rome, killed and raped everyone on sight, pillaged all materials, and this lasted for 3 months.. all in the name of protestanism.

Personally, I think this is one very very good excuse ngano dili na jud magbalik ang Catholics ug Protestants (and their many different subgroups) because of that grave incident in history. Its already done.. okay lng unta kung ikaw ang victim unya wa ka ni-baws.. pero ni-baws man gud, so TY na lng ang mga offenses. Mao na kung naa maka-sala nimo, or naa makabuhat ug dautan kanimo, its always the best thing to just accept, and forget. i know di lalim ang paglimot especially kung sakit jud kaau ang nahitabo, everyday ma-consume ka sa suffering and pain, fear and anger.. pero kung mabuhat na nimo, mura na ka ug santos ana.

when you exact vengeance in the name of justice or whatever retribution diha, you're only continuing the cycle of karma. daghan klase na baws.. kay ang kasing2x sa tawo, iglas pud ni xa. you think nahilom na ka, pero try observing your little actions and behavior kung maka-test jud ka na wala na kay kalagot dihang dapita, dba manggawas imong kaugalingon demonyo..

that's why its good to just laugh at the world and let them all burn in hell.. aww.. murag lahi na to ang tono ato da..

[kebot]

1. nothing
2. am I destroying your faith? I think I answered already, questioning your faith does not equal destroying. If you feel threatened, then it may be because you're not so sure about what you believe in the first place.
3. bible has contradictions, therefore you're belief has contradictions.
4. nothing

my turn, why do you believe what you believe and just easily dismiss the other belief systems?

Tell you a story:

There was a man some point in his life he lost his will to live. He hated God and wanted to believe he is not there anymore. The more he turn away the more he becomes miserable. He was so angry at God that he read the Bible to destroy the Bible. In his frustration he found out that God is a murderer of Millions/Billions of life(the Great Flood). He became an angry man. The misery is so intense that he suffered for years. And Finaly, he said Lord just take away my life. Why did you pick me to suffer. At that moment there was a halt in his life and he said to himself if I die all the things that I hoped for doesnt mean anything. So he change his mind and in his heart he ask The God he knew "God give me a chance to enjoy life, I am not done yet. Give me Peace and prosperity in return I WILL BELIEVE IN YOU FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE". The story still goes on... but from that moment he Find Peace and Prosperity.

This story is real, And now He easily dismiss the other belief system. The reason is His God becomes a personal God. What can you ask for a God to a God who answers prayer. It might be a dillusion or whatever to some eyes, but I will TELL YOU THE BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG difference.

You see, this man became an athiest for years. He thought he can do it "HIS WAY". This guy became an athiest because he wanted peace. But he could not find it in Athiesm why because He constantly seeking an excuse that there is no God. In this time He became Arrogant on things about God and He became proud. But deep inside he cannot deny that something is missing inside. This man denies God many times and became a hater of people in the Religion. The Difference brad is "PEACE" he could not find it. In his frustration brad namasin siya bsin tubagon cya sa Ginoo. Then Miracles happen just the way things he wanted to happen.

If Great Trials comes your way you know what to do. But keep you hearts open.

I hope I answer your questions...

My Turn, what made you decide to become an Athiest? What are the things we can benefit from it? Can you site the Benefits?

[kebot]

Read History on the Reformation brad.. the protestants ransacked Rome, killed and raped everyone on sight, pillaged all materials, and this lasted for 3 months.. all in the name of protestanism.

Personally, I think this is one very very good excuse ngano dili na jud magbalik ang Catholics ug Protestants (and their many different subgroups) because of that grave incident in history. Its already done.. okay lng unta kung ikaw ang victim unya wa ka ni-baws.. pero ni-baws man gud, so TY na lng ang mga offenses. Mao na kung naa maka-sala nimo, or naa makabuhat ug dautan kanimo, its always the best thing to just accept, and forget. i know di lalim ang paglimot especially kung sakit jud kaau ang nahitabo, everyday ma-consume ka sa suffering and pain, fear and anger.. pero kung mabuhat na nimo, mura na ka ug santos ana.

when you exact vengeance in the name of justice or whatever retribution diha, you're only continuing the cycle of karma. daghan klase na baws.. kay ang kasing2x sa tawo, iglas pud ni xa. you think nahilom na ka, pero try observing your little actions and behavior kung maka-test jud ka na wala na kay kalagot dihang dapita, dba manggawas imong kaugalingon demonyo..

that's why its good to just laugh at the world and let them all burn in hell.. aww.. murag lahi na to ang tono ato da..

hmmm, please provide link brad I wanted to read the story. I do not said you are lying I just want to know thier story. You guys talk about PEACE but you are not doing anything to make it possible. You see you guys are attacking Religion Faith Bible God, whatever... but it seems you are wearing peace but destroying each ones belief... why is that?

False Prophets can make miracles. it is written.

[kebot]

By the way Rome were never threatend for at least a thousand years as far as i know. The closest was HANNIBAL of Carthage. Religion Invaded? I dont think so... But it might be true if it was the time when Rome was not at its peak... brad gae ko link be...kay I want to know that story.