MERGED: Vigilantism and related issues

[fritzchoy]

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Akong pagtoo bro, daghan gihapon mga polis nga ligdong labi na sa ilang trabaho. Dili tanang mga polis hiwi. Ugaling lang madamay dyud ang kadaghanan kung ma scandalized na tungod sa binuhatan sa pipila lamang. In fact bro, naay mga polis nga bisan mga hiwi na sila but there is still some goodness in their heart. Inig human ron anang imbestigasyon sa Davao, mo shift man kuno ang investigating team sa Cebu kay they want to find out kung kinsa utok ining extra judicial killings. Anha pa siguro nato mahibal-an kung mo kooperar si Dakay.

sakto jud ka bro... ana jud nang tao bro... kung naa gani simang usa among jud na tanan...

[godwhacker]

Gaaway naman gud noun mo aning issue ha.... pag sure mo oi.....

istorya lang walay awayay.... diba naa ta sa istorya.net wala ta sa away.net.... atot pod ninyo oi....
kalma lang mo mga bro og sis... ayaw gamita ang inyong mga dugo sa iro (pagkasapoton)... basin kamoy sunod mahimong vigilante...

Saktoha dyud ka bro, uban gud dire, ma high blood dayon. di na ka komedyahan ba nga kining kinabuhi ug serious ra ka kaayo dali ka atakehon.

[fritzchoy]

Mao jud bro.. subraan ra kaayo ka highblood.... kalma lang unta ta... kay kung atakihon tawn mo....
saon nlang.... mag himo jud ko og thread na "NAMATAY TUNGOD SA AWAY SA VIGILANTE" hahahaha... bitaw simbako atakihon mo? heheheh mangabat dayon mo....

[penigabz]

Bro I found something from the Freeman today. Ug mao man gani ni imong pasabut unya mo insist si Spingfiels, ug sa tagalog pa, pagbigyan nalang. hehe... It is already moot and academic on my part bisan moingon pa ko nga dili siya akong pasabut kay niangkon man diay... see below.

Tom: I ordered policemen to go after criminals
Updated June 09, 2009 12:00 AM

CEBU, Philippines – Cebu City Mayor Tomas Osmeña yesterday admitted that he ordered the police to cleanse the city of criminals, raising suspicions that he supports the vigilante killings.

In yesterday’s press conference, Osmeña said he gave the order sometime in December 2007 when a wave of bigtime robberies hit the city.

“My concern is peace and order in the city and the welfare of the constituents. Naabot sa point sa una nga criminals have no fear and the police were just doing nothing. So I told them go after the criminals and I’ll give you a reward,” Osmeña said.

He said after his order, he just learned that persons with criminal record were started to get killed allegedly by the vigilantes.

However, he did not say that the police were responsible for the killings.

“When I came back from a vacation in Manila, I think 10 criminals were killed within eight days and then I said unsa man ni...but nibalik ang kalinaw,” he said.

Although it has been two years since the killings, Osmeña still warned criminals that they have no place in the city.

“I don’t like to give an assurance with the criminals that it (Cebu City) is safe for them, dili ko ganahan ana,” he said.

The vigilante issue was revived when Cebu Archdiocese spokesman Monsignor Achilles Dakay said that he believed businessmen paid the vigilantes to go after the criminals.

It can be recalled that more than 200 persons with criminal records were killed in the city since 2007. —Ferliza C. Contratista/LPM (THE FREEMAN)

Ang pag hatag ug REWARD is not the main reason aron mo lihok atong mga Pulis. Mga bro, try gud mo ug observe sa CCPO if naa mo'y time aron inyo sad ma kita ang kahago sa atong PNP personnels. Ang paghatag ug ganti dili jud rason aron mo lihok. IF you join the PNP you will be asked nganong mo sulod ka. That's the hardest part....question lang gani na but it means a lot. Mas grabe pa na kaysa 4 yrs na training.

Sad to say but mostly of the People here don't trust Police Personnel.

[fritzchoy]

Part Pen...

Kalma lang kay basin makapusil kag dili oras... hehehehe nindot raba kaayo kag issue na armas....
basin mahibaw an na member ka sa HUNTER'S TEAM... hahahahahaha joke ra ha...? kita lang nya ta unya... wala man kaha mo operation karon... hehehehe

[Z Niña]

Basta para ra ni nako bro,


being proactive has no definition of condoning crime like vigilante killings or maghuwat lang nga naay mamatay sa tulis. ask mr. google about that...

Nganong e google paman, as to my definition, proactively LIMPYOHAN ang Cebu sa mga KRIMINAL... kay sa unya pa ta LIMPYOHAN if atong mga LOVE ONES ang MAMATAY (w/c is reactive na kaayo ta)......


the word proactive is to describe a person who took responsibility for his or her life, rather than looking for causes in outside circumstances or other people. It stressed the importance of courage, perseverance, individual responsibility and awareness of the existence of choices, regardless of the situation or context.

so if we take the proactive stance, then:

(1) we should have the courage to follow the rule of law no matter how emotional we may become.

(2) we should persevere w/ finding justice no matter how long it takes the authorities to find the culprit.

(3) we should have the individual responsibility for our actions (every action has its consequence) i.e. avoid situations where dakug posibilidad matulis ka or whatever, complain about the lack of police visibility or lack of lighted lamp posts at night, ask the community for cooperation, etc.

(4) we should be aware of the existence of a reasonable, educated, civilized, and humane choice. and that is to follow the rule of law...[/QUOTE]


My comments:

(1) Yes, we are following the rule of law no matter how emotional we are, what I am saying is Nalimpyohan ang Cebu sa mga KRIMINAL before MAMATAY emong LOVE ONES nga ga suroy2x bisan asa...

(2) Yes u r still correct, pero daghan naman wala nasulbad nga KRIMIN... Try to research police stations... So WHY WAIT nga MA-APIL ka sa LISTA sa mga NI COMPLAIN nga NAMATAY na EMONG LOVE ONES nga dugay nasulbad...

(3) Individual responsibilities, Yes Correct gihapon ka, pero dont tell me Kaning mga NAMATAY NA, mga irresponsably ni sila nga individual?

(4) Yes you are still Correct and para na NIMO...... Pero para NAKO, I WONT WAIT TO SEE ONE OF MY LOVE ONES WILL DIE because of these TULIS2x....


PEACE BRO, para ra ni nako ha... thanks for reading

[maddison]

correct......mas mau pa ang dautan ang mamatay kaysa ng tinarong...Pareha rana gud, sa papilion ka nga kinsay mo una ug kamatay, ang imo anak or ikw nga dugay na sa kalibutan, ./..


Mupili gyud ka sa unsay bug at..

[jblim1980]

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mao2x... i know human rights violation tong gipang buhat sa mga vigilante pero tanawa ang crime rate atong panahona nga nag operate pa sila? diba minus kaayo and tanawa karon...

sometimes we have to use brute force in order to maintain peace in our city...

mao jud...kana bitaw mga snatcher dili man mahadlok mopusil...

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

@ GODWHACKER ...

- Ngano ako man ang ma highblood when in fact ikaw ang desperate ?
- Kuung highblood pa ko , youll see a lot of numbers in th vicinity of your avatar .
- Sa imong pag hugas ug kamot , you sounded like MSGR DAKAY na hinuon .
- Unsay labot nako sa imong gi sulti ? Actually wala but I am challenging you to come out clean .
- Ayaw ipasa sa akoa ang pagpahingan ug tao . Its you who claimed of " OPAW " na connected sa vigilantes .
- When you said MY GUESS IS AS GOOD AS YOURS makes you the person who looks dumbfounded .
- WHy would I guess when I can easily just ask you but you decline to answer my question .
- It just shows that indeed , as what was said about your statements , NAGBINATA ra ka .
- Dili lage ko daginuton kay I walk the walk and I talk the talk .... inside and outside of iSTORYA.net . How about you ?

[ioch]

hey ioch and giddyboy, wa mo naluoy kay rex ha, gipusil patay sa mga walang hiyang mga tulisan na yan. Those criminals will not just get your things, they will kill you. klaro mo kaayo n wa mo pa nakasuway ug holdup or namatyan na kamag anak kay naholdap. i am agree to vigilante killings, look at davao when duterte was not a mayor, it was a full of criminals, when he become a mayor. limpyo na ang davao, di n ka mahadlok sige lakaw sa gabi or even in daylight, maski magdala k pa ng mamahalin na gamit. I am agree with vigilantes.

I don't know what drove you into that conclusion about me but I chose the less popular opinion not for the sake of being self-righteous but to take the opportunity to expose the flaw in the vigilantes' way of thinking. I think we can truly give honor to these victims by not becoming the same monster that these criminals have allowed themselves to become. But when you said that I don't care, that is just not fair. Empathy is a human experience that can be acted upon in so many different ways. So you have chosen to support the vigilantes and I've chosen to support the legal system by which I know is fallible but I still think as the better option. I am just hoping that you will not judge me for it.

We don't need to have the same opinion, I do understand what you are saying. And to let you know, I am a fan of Dexter. I even watched him a few minutes ago with real enjoyment. But in real life, I sincerely think he's better off left in the tubes.