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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    that's okay.. no rush in explaining required.. thanks for responding..

    here's my response also:

    so, for those who have "known" of Jesus Christ, they are given an ultimatum then to ACCEPT or REJECT? what does this "know" Jesus Christ entail? and what do you mean by ACCEPT or REJECT?
    accept him as your Lord and Savior? please do explain.. or should that be taken literally as it is..
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    Those people never had the opportunity to accept or reject Him and thus he judges them according to what they do know, and according to what all men know that has been written on their heart by God.

    if this "know" is what you mean. then let me explain briefly:

    If you know Christ or Heard of him his works and everything then you are entitled for his Judgement according to his commandments.

    Some people never heard of him then they will be judged according to their hearts.

    You will have to make a choice bro. Dont wait until its too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Bro you are only quoting one source which is not even the ONLY SOURCE OF TRUTH! You forgot the other sacred scriptures such as The DHAMMAPADA where Gautama Buddha said that YOU CAN ONLY BE SAVED WHEN YOU DETACH YOURSELF from your DESIRES because ATTACHMENT IS THE ROOT CAUSE of SUFFERING and the UPANISHADS and the VEDAS which are the sacred books of Hinduism says that THE ROOT CAUSE OF SUFFERING IS IGNORANCE! Now, it doesn't speak about salvation in the literal sense to be done by Jesus The Christ because the message there was clearly your own salvation! You can only be saved through ENLIGHTENMENT as Buddha and other masters achieved and realized this GREAT TRUTH - that YOU ALONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN SALVATION AND NO ONE ELSE!
    Well you just said it bro. 'not ONLY SOURCE OF TRUTH'. There is no doubt it is also a TRUTH thats what you imply. Then because the two are somewhat conflicting Truth then you will have to make a choice bro. Biblical Truth or the Truth Created by Man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebot View Post
    Well you just said it bro. 'not ONLY SOURCE OF TRUTH'. There is no doubt it is also a TRUTH thats what you imply. Then because the two are somewhat conflicting Truth then you will have to make a choice bro. Biblical Truth or the Truth Created by Man.
    Yes the bible contains TRUTH but not the whole TRUTH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by regnauld View Post
    Yes the bible contains TRUTH but not the whole TRUTH!
    I guess you are saying there are many kinds of truth:

    1. human truths
    a. science
    b. Philosophy

    2. Biblical Truth

    Its about the choosing the 2 bro.

    human truth - is already tested a failure.
    Biblical Truth - Gods Absolute Truth.

    whichever you feel is for you then it is your choice. We Christians will not question you. But questioning us about why the Bible. Then its just like saying we choose a more reliable source rather than human failure. Ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebot View Post
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    Those people never had the opportunity to accept or reject Him and thus he judges them according to what they do know, and according to what all men know that has been written on their heart by God.

    if this "know" is what you mean. then let me explain briefly:

    If you know Christ or Heard of him his works and everything then you are entitled for his Judgement according to his commandments.

    Some people never heard of him then they will be judged according to their hearts.

    You will have to make a choice bro. Dont wait until its too late.

    so this "know" Jesus Christ is as simple as having "heard" of him.. like just hear his name?
    so if someone asks any perfect stranger on the street "Do you know Jesus Christ?", you can immediately ask the stranger to ACCEPT or REJECT as Saviour and Lord?

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    ^Can I whip a bit of common sense on that please? I know you are smart blue(Mr. J?), and I think you are just asking that question just for the sake of asking. Well if you do not really know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kebot View Post
    I guess you are saying there are many kinds of truth:

    1. human truths
    a. science
    b. Philosophy

    2. Biblical Truth

    Its about the choosing the 2 bro.

    human truth - is already tested a failure.
    Biblical Truth - Gods Absolute Truth.

    whichever you feel is for you then it is your choice. We Christians will not question you. But questioning us about why the Bible. Then its just like saying we choose a more reliable source rather than human failure. Ok.
    So you think that biblical truth comes directly from GOD? If it comes from GOD directy then how come Christians are not united? This does not answer my question. I would assume that the bible would solve your problems and unite you as christians but it did not. Innstead, it keeps you on dividing and interpreting your own standard and thus creating another chaos and fanaticism even if you say you are not a bible fanatic. This is obvious to the fact that you are always quoting the bible but you don't even know what that means in its deepest sense because you want to show to us that the bible alone is the source of truth and nothing else.

    I think you failed again in your explanation why the bible does not come from GOD but from men who wrote that book. Your bible is just a an ordinary story book or I would say a dangerous book because a lot of churches were created because of that book and there is nothing special about it. It did not even solve our problems and it did not even enlighthen you as a Christian in accepting and tolerating other religions.
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    i'm one of those people who believes in a creator but not religion... spirituality is not religion, religion tends to separate people than uniting it.

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    ^So you are just a creationist and not a religious?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lelitp View Post
    i'm one of those people who believes in a creator but not religion... spirituality is not religion, religion tends to separate people than uniting it.
    in a way, you are correct.

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