How do we really know God exists... The Bible Answers

[necrotic freak]

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A deed for humanities betterment
That's what I'm doing
A deed than a plea

and the laws of God is not for humanities betterment? FYI, even government laws are inspired by Gods law. ask a law maker.

[necrotic freak]

that's plainly stupid

tol ayaw pag ingana...

[regnauld]

How do we really know god exist?
i dont know,
reading it, second hand knowledge is not knowing,
faith & believing is not knowing,
patronizing an idea is not knowing,
but we can speculate, we can choose what to think,
but its not knowing,

How about Bishop through your EXPERIENCE like what happened to Neale in CWG?

[handsoff241]

What a lie indeed!

Historical proof... do you have any other proof outside of the bible when the bible itself is the text in question?

it's in there.. read it, on the latter part

I was talking about the history of Man's understanding of a divine being. Not exclusively related to religion.

"smart enough / know well enough to outwit my faith".... I hope you do not interpret the faithful to mean those who are not smart enough or know well enough.

Science does not assume to know everything unless there is evidence to support it... Science presupposes nothing. Religion relies on faith and assumes to have an understanding of the world based on literary texts like the Bible.

where would you relate a divine being? the word divine itself is an attribute only true when we talk about religion, how can science use this attribute when it still challenge the subject?

no im not, i was commenting about your post so it stays on you. but im not saying your not smart.. or what.
yes religion relies on faith, but it takes steps to prove what it believes with relative response to the world where it revolves, it uses science to prove itself and to dig itself, it does assume but it takes steps to prove what it assumed already. science of course on it's part presupposes nothing, cause it started it's nature on that way, a contrary to religion whose basis was that of a laid knowledge from God.

What lower hierarchy are you referring to? please explain.
Like I said... .religion, science and the many other machinations of man are simply tools to explain our place in the world. Religion has taught us so much... yes.. that presupposes that what religion has thought has always been right.. .which is not the case.

something i heard from seminars, like the morality and love and respect and blah blah.
what religion teaches is in fact true, which is not a case you believe.

Sorry.. didnt get this part.. can you rephrase?

you can re-read it dont worry there is no grammar error on that(as how i knew it)

[schmuck]

no thats, 10 commandments + (society - common sense) = your idea

do you mean to say, nga kelangan pa og common sense para ma-apply ang 10 commandments?

[handsoff241]

do you mean to say, nga kelangan pa og common sense para ma-apply ang 10 commandments?

no it needs common sense to use it right.
you can use it without common sense, that was what your idea was about.

[nikxz unÖ]

and the laws of God is not for humanities betterment? FYI, even government laws are inspired by Gods law. ask a law maker.

Heck.. I didn't say the its not for humanities betterment..
As what I've said deed than a plea
In the sense that doing good without expecting bargain return or some sort of after life bliss

[schmuck]

no it needs common sense to use it right.
you can use it without common sense, that was what your idea was about.

hence, we go back to my original post

maybe because the 10 commandments don't make sense in a modern society?

because by itself, it doesn't make sense tada!

[necrotic freak]

Heck.. I didn't say the its not for humanities betterment..
As what I've said deed than a plea
In the sense that doing good without expecting bargain return or some sort of after life bliss

i see... well, i might agree on you in this case coz thats what were doing also. Gods grace is always there even if your not expecting it. im a believer but i dont anticipate bliss.

[vipvip68]

it's in there.. read it, on the latter part

So you want me to read the bible as historical proof of the bible itself? That doesn't sound logical at all.

where would you relate a divine being? the word divine itself is an attribute only true when we talk about religion, how can science use this attribute when it still challenge the subject?

let's not go into semantics here. like I said.. Man's understanding of a divine/supreme or whatever you want to call it.... its not exclusive to religion nor to science.

yes religion relies on faith, but it takes steps to prove what it believes with relative response to the world where it revolves, it uses science to prove itself and to dig itself, it does assume but it takes steps to prove what it assumed already. science of course on it's part presupposes nothing, cause it started it's nature on that way, a contrary to religion whose basis was that of a laid knowledge from God.

Since when has religion used science to prove itself? It is science which has disproved religious beliefs time and time again... religion has had to change its beliefs because of scientific findings.

something i heard from seminars, like the morality and love and respect and blah blah.
what religion teaches is in fact true, which is not a case you believe.

you can re-read it dont worry there is no grammar error on that(as how i knew it)

What exactly is your point?... seems like you weren't listening to that seminar as you can't even explain your points clearly... I'm sorry but "blah blah blah" won't cut the mustard bro.


look, if you want to get your points across.. you better take time to compose your posts and make sure you know what you're talking about... otherwise, don't bother posting it here.


I am not here to debate / argue with you. I am here to engage in an intelligent discussions and valid exchange of points and ideas..