MERGED: South Road Properties (SRP) News, Issues, and Developments

[giddyboy]

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lisod man ngita og evidence ani nila..maayo kaha ni sila mo tago og mga anomaly..naa bah kawatan mo tug.anhehehe

lisod ngita ug evidence ky basin wala gyuy evidence. all that is left are just rumors and hearsay. how about that?

ur argument "naa bah kawatan mo tug-an" is even already implying and pre-judging she is a kawatan. there's no intellectual argument here my friend...sorry.

[giddyboy]

Cebu City-Filinvest agreement worse than Piatco: Pablo John

THE Cebu City Government’s payment of capital gains taxes and documentary stamp taxes for the sale of a 10.6-hectare South Road Properties (SRP) lot was cleared by the Bureau of Internal Revenue (BIR), city officials said.

But a day after pointing out the alleged irregularity in the City’s payment of these taxes, Rep. Pablo John Garcia (Cebu Province, 3rd district) described the joint venture deal between the City and Filinvest Land Inc. (FLI) to be worse than the Piatco contract for the construction of NAIA Terminal 3, which the Supreme Court canceled for certain irregularities.

Garcia alleged that the joint venture agreement “differed on all material points from the terms of the invitation to bid published by the City.”

In a press statement, he pointed out that the terms and conditions of the joint venture, as stated in the contract, are contrary to what was published in the invitation to apply for eligibility and to submit a comparative proposal.

Inconsistent

The invitation, Garcia said, asked for a central business district type development on a 50.6-hectare area. It also stated that FLI committed to compensate the City in the amount of not less than “P1.5 billion in cash payable within the first three years.”

But in the contract, the unincorporated joint venture covers only 40 hectares, while the 10.6 hectares was an outright purchase, he said.

He also said that the joint venture development is no longer for a central business district type development but for an integrated and well-planned clusters of medium rise residential buildings and retirement and congregate care complexes, “which is inconsistent with a central business district type of development.”

And instead of P1.5 billion being payable in three years as stated in the published invitation, Garcia said the payment period is now six years.

He said that the deviations from the published invitation directly result in, as stated by the SC in the Piatco case, “concrete financial advantages that were previously not available during the bidding process.”

“At least in the Piatco case, the contract still called for an airport terminal. In this case, it’s a totally different type of development. And Filinvest was given advantages that were not available to prospective bidders during the call for bids,” the congressman said.

He said he will dwell on this more during the congressional inquiry that he is proposing.

full article:
Cebu City-Filinvest agreement worse than Piatco: Pablo John | Sun.Star Network Online

[raboy50]

what's more unfair is Tomas not uncovering the veil of the shady FLI transaction...Rep PJ even said this could be bigger than the Piatco scandal...didn't u read the front page news yesterday?

Pasensya na Bro, kay dugay naman gud ko wala na mopalit aning Sunstar ka bias ug dili balance ilang news puro pabor sa mga Garcia, bisan gani sa ilang website maglibog ta kay nagsagul ang daan ug ang bag-o nga balita.

[raboy50]

oi pablo john... if you have meet the guy.... ang hangin sa iyang paligid mas mo kusog kung mo sulti ni siya ... mura ug korect

Kay hanginon diay ni si Pablo John manulti? Karon pa sad ko kahibalo ani da, mao diay adto gyud nya sa congresso dad-on ang imbestigasyon sa SRP kay aron makagawas ang pinaka kusog niyang hangin didto. Ayaw sad palabii oi kay congressman baya na sya nga nagpa Goryo-goryo. LOCO gyud ka da.

[raboy50]

we will never know unless nka butang sa media or articles sa ilang mga anomaliya or sayop if there is any. how can i make a list if they are not factual but only hearsay?

well, if u insist,

AS ALLEGED:

Illegal parking fee inside Capitol - still debatable if constitutional or not
Illegal surveillance cams in Capitol - same story
CICC overpricing - a hearsay. besides, she gave proper acctg na to COA (AND EVEN TO THE MEDIA) and they didn't find anything wrong.
Lamp post scandal - a hearsay. besides, kinsa may klaro gyud nga na kasohan beh? aw cla ang angay ibutang sa limelight, not garcia.

unsa paman inyong mahuna hunaan beh? kamo akong pa supplyon kha nlng ky kamo may agrabyado beh...

let me ask u this:

who do u think points a gun to a taxi driver?

who do u think totes a gun during a colon rally?

who do u think treats his subordinates (including the VM) like some doormat?

who do u think name-calls ladies i.e. Miss Cellphone, Tandang Zorra, etc?

and lastly, who do u think started the word war between Gwen and Tomas?

Obviously and Clearly it is not Gwen. (so who do u think is more hawod?)

and what's wrong with posting her face in the Suroy2x sa Sugbu marketing ads? does it mean hawod na cya?

what's wrong w/ posting her face sa Governor's cup? does it mean hawod na cya?

don't get me wrong here. im just making a more balanced opinion here...

but anyways, this is OT na.

Bro, kana kunong Suroy-Suroy Sugbo ni Gwen wala kuno kahatag ug kaayohan sa province kay puro Igat-Igat ra no na Kay Basta Igat Sikat matud pa ni Sonny Osmena.

[LytSlpr]

we will never know unless nka butang sa media or articles sa ilang mga anomaliya or sayop if there is any. how can i make a list if they are not factual but only hearsay?

well, if u insist,

AS ALLEGED:

Illegal parking fee inside Capitol - still debatable if constitutional or not
Illegal surveillance cams in Capitol - same story
CICC overpricing - a hearsay. besides, she gave proper acctg na to COA (AND EVEN TO THE MEDIA) and they didn't find anything wrong.
Lamp post scandal - a hearsay. besides, kinsa may klaro gyud nga na kasohan beh? aw cla ang angay ibutang sa limelight, not garcia.

unsa paman inyong mahuna hunaan beh? kamo akong pa supplyon kha nlng ky kamo may agrabyado beh...

let me ask u this:

who do u think points a gun to a taxi driver?

who do u think totes a gun during a colon rally?

who do u think treats his subordinates (including the VM) like some doormat?

who do u think name-calls ladies i.e. Miss Cellphone, Tandang Zorra, etc?

and lastly, who do u think started the word war between Gwen and Tomas?

Obviously and Clearly it is not Gwen. (so who do u think is more hawod?)

and what's wrong with posting her face in the Suroy2x sa Sugbu marketing ads? does it mean hawod na cya?

what's wrong w/ posting her face sa Governor's cup? does it mean hawod na cya?

don't get me wrong here. im just making a more balanced opinion here...

but anyways, this is OT na.

ang CICC di'ay? but of course, that's just hearsay. RIGHT?!

[LytSlpr]

Bro, unfair sad kaayo na sa mga konsihal ang congressional inquiry ni Pablo John kay siya ang nagreclamo nya siya pa jud ang moimbistigar mas maayo para fair ang laban kon duna man syay ibidensya adto nya dad-on sa court kay aron masilotan ang naglapas sa balaod, kay wa may na priso anang inqiury pang grandstanding ra man na kay aron gyud ingnon hawod siya. Basin nagtoo sya nga nalipay ang mga sugbuanon anang iyang gihimo, maayo unta ug iya usa na timbang timbangon ang iyang gihimo kay nisamot kangil-ad sa mata sa mga sugbuanon ang iyang gihimo kay kana nga project dili si Tomas ang nagpas-an sa bayranan sa loan kundi ang mga sugbuanon ug na apektohan na gani ang ubang basic services sa city gumikan ana nga project , nya karon nga naa na unta kitay nakita nga kahayag ana, lawgawon pod sa mga Garcia.. Kini sad atong ubang Congressman nagpa goryo-goryo sad, nisakay sad sa mga Garcia. Sagdahi lang na si Cuenco kay ang iya nalang asawa ang nitoo ana niya kay gipalayas na ni Tomas sa BOPK kay marukoy kaayong dako. Pag election sa mga Congressman naningkamot si Tomas ug mga Kapitan sa South nga modaug sya, pero pag election sa mga kapitan nisibat sya sa america. Pagkafaet aning atong mga politico sa Cebu.

you are right sir, if dili pa na HANGOL si pablo john ug kwarta as well as media mileage, di ni niya sa congress dad-on. bahala na ug detrimental for cebu basta maka-apil lang sa pangwarta.

there is the ombudsman or the court pero di sila ganahan ana because in congress there is immunity and it will just go nowhere there. senate and congress hearings in the philippines is joke and we all know that.

it's ironic that some people always talk about evidence and hearsay and that is just what will exactly happen with the SRP inquiry in congress.

if pablo john is so sure, then he should bring it to a evidenced-based venue.

moreover, if he really has delicadeza, he should leave SRP alone.

[LytSlpr]

ang pangutana, knanglan ba diay i-dungan gyud? perhaps the priority at that time was the Cebu Business Park and to build the mall. nya next priority was the Waterfront hotel, then the IT Park dayon. Please remember that the boom in Cebu BPO only started less than a decade ago.

do u even remember unsay porma sauna sa Lahug airport before it was made into an IT Park? remember THE VILLAGE?

PEZA & BPO only less than a decade ago, sure ka?

well, what's ur beef about it? was there any anomaly u read in the news? LOLs

wala lagi anomaly but that doesn't mean wala'y transaction ug mga personal interests. you mean napaspas ang pag move sa overpopulated BBRC just because of the goodness of their heart? napaspas to, to pave way for the expansion of the so called JV if not purchase of the ayala of the lots in that area.

moreover, since you said that CBP ug IT park was still during lito's time, knowing lito o. as a dynamic visionary, nganong wala man gyud to mabalhin ang BBRC nga huot na man gyud kaayo to ang BBRC during that time. probably because wala ma-interesan ni lito o. at that time pero na interesan ni gwen or his father unya luto na ang decision sa SC? of course, mo ingon na sad ka nga perfect timing lang gyud sila, now that will really crack me up, hehehe!!!

and do u even know the backgrounder story behind the pending transfer? pag research sab panagsa wui.

PGMA has ordered the transfer of the AFP Cent Com headquarters from Cebu City to Lapu-Lapu City in Mactan Island ato pang Aug. 3, 2007!!! It's almost 2 yrs na since PGMA gave that order!

This transfer of the military headquarters is seen also to pave the way for Capitol to recover the land that is presently being occupied by Centcom in barangay Apas.

and do u even know why it has to be transferred and who originally made the suggestion?

it was AFP chief of staff Hermogenes Esperon, who recommended that the Centcom headquarters be transferred to Mactan because of its strategic location.

Mactan Island was chosen as the site for the Centcom, because command centers have to be as close as possible to the metropolis.

op kors, we cannot always discount the political color involved. but the intentions of the transfer is valid and very reasonable enough...any level-minded and thinking person would too. otherwise, the order could not have come from the President herself!

WHO IS SOURGRAPING NOW? LOLs

mactan or tuburan or whoever the proponent, doesn't that pose a question WHY? why now and why in the ayala-interest lands?

yeah and tita glo is not tita gwen's text mate.

sama ra gud na sa Cebu Business Park ug Asiatown IT Park. sama ra gud na sa Ciudad project. of kors, all of these are owned by the province (some in joint venture w/ Ayala) while the SRP is solely owned by the city. But let's take note that investments for SRP is an open bid. it was just in the later part that the Council decided not to include the Province as it is not a private entity. if im not mistaken, the debates are still ongoing whether the CPVDC could still join the bidding.

call that sourgraping but there is a positive outcome about this: It gives the people the sense in the right to know about the "real" FLI transaction. The people have a right to unveil the cloak covering the FLI deal as a means of clamor for gov't transparency.

mura ra man sad ka ug ni-ingon nga dili ang mga marcos ang nagpa-patay ni ninoy. get the point?

pwede man gani ako as a taxpayer mo-initiate ana but i have 2 things that sets me apart from PJ, i have delicadeza and i am not power/money-hungry.

bringing the SRP to a congressional inquiry? ana na gyud ka low si Pablo John. it's either he is low or he is stupid or even both, bisan kinsa pa'y pangutan-on.

your last statement is funny if not hypocrisy of the garcias.

[giddyboy]

Bro, kana kunong Suroy-Suroy Sugbo ni Gwen wala kuno kahatag ug kaayohan sa province kay puro Igat-Igat ra no na Kay Basta Igat Sikat matud pa ni Sonny Osmena.

gisulti na sa labi pud nga tinuod nga igat nga c Sonny O...LOLs

What is Suroy, Suroy, Sugbu? It is a test program which encourages local and foreign tourists to tour the ‘island province’ over three weekends, or more, by tourist bus, car and other motor vehicles in a festive caravan.

The first Suroy, Suroy Sugbu was held in 2005. The comprehensive tour plan was prepared by the Tourism and Heritage Council of the Province of Cebu and the tour operators. The mayors of designated towns and cities hosted and managed the activities. The Department of Tourism 7 and the business groups campaigned for participation and succeeded.

What does Suroy offer? It gives short town tours which showcase Cebu’s heritage and natural wonders.

Significance of Suroy, Suroy, Sugbu to EATOF

For the past three years, the EATOF has consistently emphasized the importance of developing regional tourism. There were proposals to design tourism-clusters and link travel itineraries. However, because of the absence of continuing mechanisms, the ACADEMIC committee is unable to meet after each annual forum to implement the plan.

The concept of ‘Suroy,’ supports EATOF’s perspective of re-discovering new destinations and make regional tourism more inviting and functional.

The current travel options are moving toward the direction of countryside or rural tourism. Korea, Malaysia, Japan, China, Thailand, among others, are selling un-explored destinations aside from the popular choices, like Seoul, Tokyo, Hongkong, Phuket or Taiwan. In the Philippines, a growing number of outbound tourists seek new destinations abroad and cruises have been very “saleable” for these trends. Meantime, the in-bound tourists in Cebu are likewise joining tours like the Suroy.

Countryside tourism is an interplay of ecology and heritage where nature is at its best! It situates history and culture in a wholesome, pollution-free environment and enhances the people’s aesthetic sense and camaraderie, the best gift of tourism.

ANG BLEMA LANG, some would NOT want to see the future gains and the "MEAT" of this tourism program and instead focus more on the personalities of politics, sowing intrigue apt only for showbiz lingo.

[giddyboy]

mura ra man sad ka ug ni-ingon nga dili ang mga marcos ang nagpa-patay ni ninoy. get the point?

pwede man gani ako as a taxpayer mo-initiate ana but i have 2 things that sets me apart from PJ, i have delicadeza and i am not power/money-hungry.

bringing the SRP to a congressional inquiry? ana na gyud ka low si Pablo John. it's either he is low or he is stupid or even both, bisan kinsa pa'y pangutan-on.

your last statement is funny if not hypocrisy of the garcias.

well, i totally disagree ana ka low or stupid c Pablo John bahin sa SRP. i would even want to call it a brilliant political tactic. u can make fun of it all u want but it does not erase the reality that this FLI issue is serious matter...

hypocrisy? what's more hypocrite is those who doesn't want to uncovering the veil of the FLI transaction. what's more hypocrite is answering by motherhood statements even if asked specific and valid questions about the FLI deal...LOLs

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Editorial: City should answer issues fully
Sun.Star, Saturday, April 4, 2009

THERE are reasons why Capitol is doing a piecemeal presentation of its questions on Cebu City Hall’s joint venture agreement with Filinvest Land Inc. to develop a portion of the South Road Properties (SRP).

One reason follows the logic of gentle rain: the better the water seeps into the soil.

Meaning, Capitol must have felt the public would understand better the issues surrounding the transaction if the questions and criticisms are done provision by provision and not given in one press con.

Another reason could have been snatched from p.r. principles (unconsciously done or intended): the longer the issue is stretched the more telling would be its effect on City Hall officials, the main target of the critique.

Challenge

There should therefore be reasons for City Hall officials to answer directly every question and criticism raised and not wallow in generalization or merely exposing alleged Capitol motives.

For one, every question and criticism Capitol people raise, if left uncontested, would have the effect of the public
considering it as true or of city officials being perceived as hiding some things about the transaction.

And if all the fuss is also about influencing public opinion, asking the people to wait until the issues reach the “proper forum,” presumably the court or Congress, is to let go of the opportunity to clarify the claims before these solidify in the public mind.

This is particularly a challenge for lawyers in the Cebu City Council considering their role in pushing for the approval of the contract whose legality Capitol officials and some congressmen are now questioning.

They should be as conscientious in defending the transaction as Rep. Pablo John Garcia is in dissecting the provisions of the joint venture agreement.

Serious issues

City Hall officials must realize by now that the issues Capitol raised against the Filinvest deal have become more serious and compelling by the day and could no longer be simply brushed aside as the ranting of a political rival.

More and more people now want to be enlightened on the actual effect this transaction will have on their lives.

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Malilong: Is Pablo John right?
Sun.Star Sunday, April 5, 2009

MUCH has been said about the undue favors that the Cebu City Government gave to Filinvest Land, Inc. (FLI) in their South Reclamation Properties (SRP) development contract but, says a businessman friend, they are nothing that any other landowner wouldn’t have done under the same circumstances.

Pointing out how the City has unsuccessfully marketed the SRP until Filinvest came in, my friend said that the favorable treatment that the latter received was natural. City Hall must have been banking on the fact that once Filinvest started developing the portion that it acquired in the sweetheart deal, the prices of the remaining lots will go up, allowing the City to more than recover what it had lost,

But this was private business thinking, my friend said, something that the City Government isn’t allowed to have since the law bars government entities from possessing a private business mindset even when it is engaging in private business.

I can only agree. The law may sometimes appear unreasonable but it is the law.

Incidentally, until now no one from City Hall has come out to dispute Cebu 3rd District Rep. Pablo John Garcia’s assertion that under Commission on Audit rules, capital gains and other taxes as well as all other expenses of transfer of title from a local government should be borne by the buyer.

Unless City Hall lawyers break their silence and prove that the rule that the congressman cited is non-existent or has become obsolete, the only interpretation that we can make is that PJ is right. In which event, they shouldn’t waste time in thanking PJ for the reminder. Sometimes, we’re not really ignorant of the law; we just failed to read them.

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Still on the row between the Capitol and City Hall, the Garcias got a favorable review from Tony Padua, a regular letter writer to Sun.Star columnists.

“(I)t is with alarm that now Gwendolyn appears in the press to be a vindictive administrator, an obstructionist to Tomas’ SRP project, when not too long ago, Gwendolyn described the SRP as a home to ‘dogs and migratory birds,’” Padua wrote.

“My take on this so far is that the Garcia family is not a vindictive clan. But long term, they are determined to bring Tomas to the negotiating table, for quid pro quo. It’s just business, Tomas knows this.”

I hope so, too, that they would soon see each other across the negotiating table and not in a congressional investigation. This thing has gone too long and too far.

Another reader, Fr. Chito Palang, a Cebuano who during the last 30 years has been ministering to the needs of the Catholic flock at the Church of Saint Thomas Aquinas in Alpharetta, Georgia, also wrote to express his disgust over the bickering.

It is a shame, the Consolacion native said, that the quarrel has dragged down the City and the Province, “preventing the positive development of Cebu.” Both the governor and the mayor may deny the last part as untrue and they may be right in saying that insofar as the delivery of basic services to the people, it still is and has always been “business as usual.”

Still that does not make the quarrel between the island’s two most powerful leaders any more desirable.

(frank.otherside@yahoo.com)