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  1. #691

    Quote Originally Posted by giddyboy View Post
    if u r talking about people like me, u got me wrong...
    ikaw ra ni-ingon ana...

    kinsa ba gud na'ay ebidensya sa bisan kinsa na politician except sa ilang mga kontra ra sad na politician.

    now, do you honestly think, evidences aside, wala'y hao siao ang pag construct sa CICC? yes or no?

  2. #692
    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr View Post
    let's just say it was started by lito o., for the "uninformed" cebuano such as myself, ngano wala ma-materialize dungan sa business park ug panahon ni lito? wa na man gigamit ang lahug airport ato.

    ngano man kahibaw ang mga owners ang nagpaluyo ana sa supreme court, usa ka garcia? my take on this is because ang club filipino mas walay hassle para i-joint venture pero karon na garcia na naglingkod, kahibaw man sila na interesado ang mga ayala, mao na nag influence peddle sila para ma baligya or JV" sa mga ayala.
    ang pangutana, knanglan ba diay i-dungan gyud? perhaps the priority at that time was the Cebu Business Park and to build the mall. nya next priority was the Waterfront hotel, then the IT Park dayon. Please remember that the boom in Cebu BPO only started less than a decade ago.

    do u even remember unsay porma sauna sa Lahug airport before it was made into an IT Park? remember THE VILLAGE?

    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr View Post
    ang BBRC na-move sa kalunasan unya usa sad ka garcia ang nagpadagan.
    well, what's ur beef about it? was there any anomaly u read in the news? LOLs

    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr View Post
    kanang camp lapulapu na ma-move sa probinsya, because of GMA? but of course, textmate man sila ni tita gwen. mura man sad ta ug just now.
    and do u even know the backgrounder story behind the pending transfer? pag research sab panagsa wui.

    PGMA has ordered the transfer of the AFP Cent Com headquarters from Cebu City to Lapu-Lapu City in Mactan Island ato pang Aug. 3, 2007!!! It's almost 2 yrs na since PGMA gave that order!

    This transfer of the military headquarters is seen also to pave the way for Capitol to recover the land that is presently being occupied by Centcom in barangay Apas.

    and do u even know why it has to be transferred and who originally made the suggestion?

    it was AFP chief of staff Hermogenes Esperon, who recommended that the Centcom headquarters be transferred to Mactan because of its strategic location.

    Mactan Island was chosen as the site for the Centcom, because command centers have to be as close as possible to the metropolis.

    op kors, we cannot always discount the political color involved. but the intentions of the transfer is valid and very reasonable enough...any level-minded and thinking person would too. otherwise, the order could not have come from the President herself!

    WHO IS SOURGRAPING NOW? LOLs

    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr View Post
    a piece of the pie is not necessarily SOP or kickback but "commission". that's 2 entirely different things, so they say. it maybe just my mere opinion but it certainly is a logically acceptable one. otherwise, nganong mag apil2x man gyud sila anang SRP. para di mabutangan ug color, they just fight for the province and leave SRP alone but of course the SRP is very tempting.

    who is sourgraping now?
    mo apil gyud cla sa SRP coz they think the Cebu Province has the right to look for good and viable investments there, op kors. mura man sab tag just now wui.

    sama ra gud na sa Cebu Business Park ug Asiatown IT Park. sama ra gud na sa Ciudad project. of kors, all of these are owned by the province (some in joint venture w/ Ayala) while the SRP is solely owned by the city. But let's take note that investments for SRP is an open bid. it was just in the later part that the Council decided not to include the Province as it is not a private entity. if im not mistaken, the debates are still ongoing whether the CPVDC could still join the bidding.

    call that sourgraping but there is a positive outcome about this: It gives the people the sense in the right to know about the "real" FLI transaction. The people have a right to unveil the cloak covering the FLI deal as a means of clamor for gov't transparency.
    Last edited by giddyboy; 04-03-2009 at 11:59 AM.

  3. #693
    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr View Post
    ikaw ra ni-ingon ana...

    kinsa ba gud na'ay ebidensya sa bisan kinsa na politician except sa ilang mga kontra ra sad na politician.

    now, do you honestly think, evidences aside, wala'y hao siao ang pag construct sa CICC? yes or no?
    sorry but i only base my opinions on facts, not from hearsay or rumors...LOLs

  4. #694
    Quote Originally Posted by 666satan View Post
    lisod man ngita og evidence ani nila..maayo kaha ni sila mo tago og mga anomaly..naa bah kawatan mo tug.anhehehe
    murag wala jd bro. mo deny mn gni gihapon maskin na sakpan na.

  5. #695
    oi pablo john... if you have meet the guy.... ang hangin sa iyang paligid mas mo kusog kung mo sulti ni siya ... mura ug korect

  6. #696
    Giddyboy, ang mga Garcias wala jud diay sayop or mga anomaliya whatsoever? If ever naa, e-state pud pareho sa imong mga detailed lists sa mga nahimo kaayohan sa mga Garcias diri para dili kaingon ang uban na bias or Garcia loyalist ka.

  7. #697
    Ug wa pa untay labot ang congress sa SRP as what the original question says, nganung na worried man ug maayo ang mga City officials karon nga tinud-on silang Pablo John with the support of the other 5 Cebuano congressmen? Karon lang gani nag mandar na si Mike nga pa review ug balik ang mga provisions sa agreement sa FLI so they can better answer it during the congressional hearing. Now tell me especially the thread starter, kinsa man ron ang way labot sa SRP? I myself as a taxpayer if I'm convinced that the transaction is disadvantageous to the city can be capable of suing the city hall officials in my private capacity. Ang congress pa kaha nga gamhanan sad na sila. Bi kinsa man kunong lubot karon nga di na kalingkud kay gikuyaw kuyawan na? We know that this is motivated by politics but if the end result will straiten out wrongdoings if there is, I would congratulate Pablo John. I don't care ug magbugno na sila diha. Ang importante, ang makapabor anang SRP ang mga taxpayers ug dili ang mga gamugna ana nga nag-apas lang ug commission o shares sa future business interests with investors.

  8. #698
    Quote Originally Posted by godwhacker View Post
    Ug wa pa untay labot ang congress sa SRP as what the original question says, nganung na worried man ug maayo ang mga City officials karon nga tinud-on silang Pablo John with the support of the other 5 Cebuano congressmen? Karon lang gani nag mandar na si Mike nga pa review ug balik ang mga provisions sa agreement sa FLI so they can better answer it during the congressional hearing. Now tell me especially the thread starter, kinsa man ron ang way labot sa SRP? I myself as a taxpayer if I'm convinced that the transaction is disadvantageous to the city can be capable of suing the city hall officials in my private capacity. Ang congress pa kaha nga gamhanan sad na sila. Bi kinsa man kunong lubot karon nga di na kalingkud kay gikuyaw kuyawan na? We know that this is motivated by politics but if the end result will straiten out wrongdoings if there is, I would congratulate Pablo John. I don't care ug magbugno na sila diha. Ang importante, ang makapabor anang SRP ang mga taxpayers ug dili ang mga gamugna ana nga nag-apas lang ug commission o shares sa future business interests with investors.
    Bro, unfair sad kaayo na sa mga konsihal ang congressional inquiry ni Pablo John kay siya ang nagreclamo nya siya pa jud ang moimbistigar mas maayo para fair ang laban kon duna man syay ibidensya adto nya dad-on sa court kay aron masilotan ang naglapas sa balaod, kay wa may na priso anang inqiury pang grandstanding ra man na kay aron gyud ingnon hawod siya. Basin nagtoo sya nga nalipay ang mga sugbuanon anang iyang gihimo, maayo unta ug iya usa na timbang timbangon ang iyang gihimo kay nisamot kangil-ad sa mata sa mga sugbuanon ang iyang gihimo kay kana nga project dili si Tomas ang nagpas-an sa bayranan sa loan kundi ang mga sugbuanon ug na apektohan na gani ang ubang basic services sa city gumikan ana nga project , nya karon nga naa na unta kitay nakita nga kahayag ana, lawgawon pod sa mga Garcia.. Kini sad atong ubang Congressman nagpa goryo-goryo sad, nisakay sad sa mga Garcia. Sagdahi lang na si Cuenco kay ang iya nalang asawa ang nitoo ana niya kay gipalayas na ni Tomas sa BOPK kay marukoy kaayong dako. Pag election sa mga Congressman naningkamot si Tomas ug mga Kapitan sa South nga modaug sya, pero pag election sa mga kapitan nisibat sya sa america. Pagkafaet aning atong mga politico sa Cebu.

  9. #699
    Quote Originally Posted by mexicanlady View Post
    Giddyboy, ang mga Garcias wala jud diay sayop or mga anomaliya whatsoever? If ever naa, e-state pud pareho sa imong mga detailed lists sa mga nahimo kaayohan sa mga Garcias diri para dili kaingon ang uban na bias or Garcia loyalist ka.
    we will never know unless nka butang sa media or articles sa ilang mga anomaliya or sayop if there is any. how can i make a list if they are not factual but only hearsay?

    well, if u insist,

    AS ALLEGED:

    Illegal parking fee inside Capitol - still debatable if constitutional or not
    Illegal surveillance cams in Capitol - same story
    CICC overpricing - a hearsay. besides, she gave proper acctg na to COA (AND EVEN TO THE MEDIA) and they didn't find anything wrong.
    Lamp post scandal - a hearsay. besides, kinsa may klaro gyud nga na kasohan beh? aw cla ang angay ibutang sa limelight, not garcia.

    unsa paman inyong mahuna hunaan beh? kamo akong pa supplyon kha nlng ky kamo may agrabyado beh...

    let me ask u this:

    who do u think points a gun to a taxi driver?

    who do u think totes a gun during a colon rally?

    who do u think treats his subordinates (including the VM) like some doormat?

    who do u think name-calls ladies i.e. Miss Cellphone, Tandang Zorra, etc?

    and lastly, who do u think started the word war between Gwen and Tomas?

    Obviously and Clearly it is not Gwen. (so who do u think is more hawod?)

    and what's wrong with posting her face in the Suroy2x sa Sugbu marketing ads? does it mean hawod na cya?

    what's wrong w/ posting her face sa Governor's cup? does it mean hawod na cya?

    don't get me wrong here. im just making a more balanced opinion here...

    but anyways, this is OT na.
    Last edited by giddyboy; 04-04-2009 at 02:06 PM.

  10. #700
    Quote Originally Posted by raboy50 View Post
    Bro, unfair sad kaayo na sa mga konsihal ang congressional inquiry ni Pablo John kay siya ang nagreclamo nya siya pa jud ang moimbistigar mas maayo para fair ang laban kon duna man syay ibidensya adto nya dad-on sa court kay aron masilotan ang naglapas sa balaod, kay wa may na priso anang inqiury pang grandstanding ra man na kay aron gyud ingnon hawod siya. Basin nagtoo sya nga nalipay ang mga sugbuanon anang iyang gihimo, maayo unta ug iya usa na timbang timbangon ang iyang gihimo kay nisamot kangil-ad sa mata sa mga sugbuanon ang iyang gihimo kay kana nga project dili si Tomas ang nagpas-an sa bayranan sa loan kundi ang mga sugbuanon ug na apektohan na gani ang ubang basic services sa city gumikan ana nga project , nya karon nga naa na unta kitay nakita nga kahayag ana, lawgawon pod sa mga Garcia.. Kini sad atong ubang Congressman nagpa goryo-goryo sad, nisakay sad sa mga Garcia. Sagdahi lang na si Cuenco kay ang iya nalang asawa ang nitoo ana niya kay gipalayas na ni Tomas sa BOPK kay marukoy kaayong dako. Pag election sa mga Congressman naningkamot si Tomas ug mga Kapitan sa South nga modaug sya, pero pag election sa mga kapitan nisibat sya sa america. Pagkafaet aning atong mga politico sa Cebu.
    what's more unfair is Tomas not uncovering the veil of the shady FLI transaction...Rep PJ even said this could be bigger than the Piatco scandal...didn't u read the front page news yesterday?
    Last edited by giddyboy; 04-04-2009 at 01:40 PM.

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